Weekend Open Thread

“It is the cause, not the death, that makes the martyr.”

–Napoleon Bonaparte


43 Community Comments, Facebook Comments

  1. kwtreemamajama55 says:

    David Williams, (HD15), one of the most vicious and unproductive members of the Colorado Legislature, rants about why his fellow legislator Tom Sullivan must be recalled. Williams is only known for his constant, bigoted (but failing) attempts to target immigrants for detention and deportation.

    Williams also isn't shy about revealing the coalition pushing the recalls: Republican officials, Rocky Mountain Gun Owners, and the Neville's organization Recall Colorado:

    This was posted on Williams' personal Facebook account 5/17/19. Note the distortions in the descriptions of the bills passed; NONE of these accurately describe the legislation.

    How to fight back

    The anti-recall, protect our Democratic legislators forces are starting to organize canvasses and phone banks. There are two social media groups:

    1.Our Colorado Way of Life Twitter: @OCWOL https://twitter.com/OCWOL

    Colorado Indivisible, a grassroots volunteer organization, is doing the heavy lifting of mobilizing volunteers to canvass and call for Sullivan. To sign up, go to the Idivisible/ Colorado Way of Life website.

    2. Democracy First Colorado – to date, I haven’t seen any web or facebook presence for Democracy First Colorado, although they have $42,000 in money to fight the recall attempts, and were registered with the Secretary of State last March.

  2. Curmudgeon says:

    Someone's got to keep Klingenshithead's cross burning. 

  3. JohnInDenverJohnInDenver says:

    WaPo update on the Democratic debates has, as of yesterday,

     * Bennet on the outside looking in, with a "scramble" to be considered.

     * Hickenlooper on the bubble, depending on the details of polling.

     * and 11 who are in by both polls AND fundraising: Joe Biden, Cory Booker, Pete Buttigieg, Julián Castro, Tulsi Gabbard, Kamala D. Harris, Amy Klobuchar, Beto O’Rourke, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, and Andrew Yang.

    • Gilpin Guy says:

      Andrew Yang?  Seriously?

      I donated to Inslee yesterday.  I hope he makes it. 

      There was a nice reference to Bennet in today's DailyKos APR but he seems a little too late.  Hickenlooper looks invisible at this point.

      Of list who have already made it, Julian Castro is right up there on my list. 

  4. MichaelBowmanMichaelBowman says:

    In other #MAGA #MBGA news and just down the road in Yuma County, home to our junior senator….but hey, it's only $62 million, amirite Pfruit?  We're 'bailing out' a couple of crooks in Brazil who are benefitting from both lower corn prices in the US and increased exports of beef from Brazil to China while our stable genius torches our rural landscape with his tariffs tax on the US consumer.


    Trump administration showers Brazilian crooks with $62M bailout money meant for struggling U.S. farmers

    The Trump administration has forked over more than $62 million — taxpayer cash that was supposed to be earmarked for struggling American farmers — to a massive meatpacking company owned by a couple of corrupt Brazilian brothers.

    “The fact that JBS was allowed to build its political and economic monopoly in the United States with impunity raises the specter that decisions regarding JBS, at nearly every level of government, were based on inappropriate considerations.”

    • kwtreemamajama55 says:

      So the "smell of money" wafting from the feedlots is the smell of money blowing south to Brazil…

      • MichaelBowmanMichaelBowman says:

        Yep – and they're laughing all the way to the bank while Pfruit and Poddy drone on-and-on about freeedumb and liburty and how this grand scheme from our stable genius somehow 'owns the libs'. 

        • Gilpin Guy says:

          Now it's patriotic to go bankrupt while the top .1% scarf up more tax breaks.  It just makes my head hurt that rural folks support a New York billionaire who is driving them into poverty.  WTF?

  5. MADCO says:

    Is John Walsh really running for US Senate?  Really?

    I hope he is – but I can't find a campaign website or organization.

    Apparently D Senate candidates are into the double digits now. But some seem to be more serious than others.

      • MADCO says:

        Well done.
        19 minutes. Hm. You couldn't give me a little more time?

        I probably spelled his name wrong – or included his middle initial or something.



        Just to be clear – are you John Walsh?


        • kwtreemamajama55 says:

          Isn't he the "America's Most Wanted" guy?

        • PseudonymousPseudonymous says:

          His SEO (search engine optimization) is shit.  Most candidates do a little work to ensure that their website shows up on the first page (the first couple results, actually) for a search like the one I did ("john walsh senate colorado").

          My advantage was that I know that, and rather than clicking through to other search pages to try and find the site, I clicked on the first result, a Denver Post story about his announcement, and clicked on the Twitter link in the story.  His announcement there included his campaign website.

          His web help, if he was smart enough to hire someone, just isn't particularly competent, I expect.

          Edit: The search I had to do to get him in the top results was "john walsh for colorado" with the quotes included (meaning search for it as a phrase). Not gonna get folks there.

    • PseudonymousPseudonymous says:

      Current committees:

      • MADCO says:

        good one.

        Trish Zornio raised $59,048?  That's not bad fund raising for what it is.

        14 candidates.
        I smell a CoPols quiz/poll coming up.  I mean TBL is way off and can't do math.  But CoPols polling is always great.

  6. MADCO says:

    Denver Post – avoid*
    Twitter – don't have so I generally ignore it.

    SEO – I knew, but thanks.

    I like the chat button. You think it really goes to him?
    I like the big picture with Obama.
    I like the English/Spanish choice.

    He needs
    – an issues/position page (healthcare, climate, DACA, net neutrality and privacy, Colorado River compact, no fly no buy, and probably others)

    – an event calendar
    He has weak name recognition. I suspect I only know who he is because when the secondary mortgage blew up, I owned a mortgage company. (He did some good things, and did what he could with the laws we had then.) But events build name rec and he needs more.

    *I hate supporting the current ownership and the free viewing rules, including can't view from Google incognito mode, (Firefox Private mode, etc.) make me crazy


  7. doremi says:

    Response to mamajama's post of Dave Williams' tweet.

    Notice how Williams doesn't give a bill number on the Heroin Injection site. That's because no bill was introduced.  Sen. Pettersen (whose mother is a drug addict) wanted to run one, but withdrew the proposal.  So how did Sullivan ever VOTE for a bill that was never introduced?

    Could Williams explain that please?…or would removing it just take away from his inflammatory rhetoric?  

    Williams:  Honesty is not your strong suit.

    • kwtreemamajama55 says:

      Williams is another example of why the RMGO should back the f*ck off of Colorado politics. He's an idiot who was fired from his only elected position for being too homophobic, he never has held an independent job other than  in his dad's import-export firm (which is probably hurting from tariffs on China), he has sponsored only two minor bills that became law in two years under Republican leadership, and literally all he has to recommend him to the rabid, ignorant hordes in HD15 is that he hates brown people and he likes things that go Boom.

      I doubt if he'd know the truth if it walked up and spat in his eye, but he's mastered the art of copying and pasting Republican talking points.

  8. Mike W. says:

    2011 Greeley mayoral candidate Nick True is offering his name to the vacancy committee to replace Rep. Galindo. 

    • kwtreemamajama55 says:

      He has some good ideas – and he's a science teacher – both of which recommend him. The right wing will pounce on him at once, and try to intimidate him into voting their way on oil and gas legislation.

      I hope he, or whomever the final appointed person is, will be ready for the onslaught. 

  9. kwtreemamajama55 says:

    Abortion is immoral – except when it comes to my mistresses

    A look at hypocrisy in action by Republican "leaders" today.

    But payback, as they say, is a bitch:

    The above are reposted from Wendy’s Libtard Comix on Facebook. A closed group – (so no trolling) Highly recommended.

    • MADCO says:

      What strikes me hardest about those examples is they all counted on no one knowing or finding out. They want power, they want to demonstrate their power, but the whole thing is built on no one knowing.

      Until the secret comes out and no one cares.
      It's a little unfair that all those examples are lying cheating Republicans. PLenty of D sleazebags too.

      So many other memories
      – shutting that whole thing down
      – aspirin
      – fetuoses need guns
      – God's plan
      – rape kits ending pregnancy
      – rape kits left unprocessed
      – and on and on

      • kwtreemamajama55 says:

        There are certainly plenty of Democratic examples of sexual harassment and assault among politicians; however, we tend to come down hard on them, make them resign, etc, once the behavior is exposed.

        Examples: Franken, Conyers, Lebsock, to name a few. Also, Dems are pro-choice, and don't restrict the female partner's right to terminate any resulting pregnancy, and (eventually) acknowledge paternity if the woman keeps the baby. At least John Edwards supported his love child.

        While Republican offenders tend to stay in office, keep repeating the behaviors, and try to control the women's reproductive choices, all the while mouthing platitudes about how they respect women and life. Blachor's article points out that hypocrisy, as well as the extended tolerance for sexual misconduct.

  10. PhilDoctor says:

    Neville holds latest town meeting in a gun store:


    While he claims he would not hold a meeting in a strip-club (because of the children who might attend) it is entertaining to think about other venues he might use.  On a positive note museums, bookstores, and art galleries are safe.

    • kwtreemamajama55 says:

      Boy Neville's  gun shop town hall meeting was held last March.  The CBS reporter must have had a slow news day to repurpose that old story.

      Neville picked the venue because it was where he felt safe – that the mean old libz wouldn't dare set foot in a gun store. But the libz did attend, and protested and asked questions. So much for that theory.wink

  11. RepealAndReplace says:

    Is Elizabeth Warren too cowardly to be the Democratic nominee?

    Bill Maher pointed out the obvious. If you are part of the resistance, you sometimes need to go behind enemy lines. Her fear of Fox shows that she doesn't have the cojones to do that. Bernie, to his credit, went hunting where the ducks were (to borrow Barry Goldwater's famous phrase). Which may explain why he is Biden's most serious challenger.

    Warren is looking more and more like Michael Dukakis every day. Maybe she will limit her appearance to the Rachel Maddow Show.

  12. MADCO says:

    ACA Refunds? How does this work exactly?

    "… the Affordable Care Act’s medical loss ratio (MLR) a provision – sponsored by Minnesota’s former Senator, Al Franken – that forces health insurance companies to use your premium dollars to provide actual health care and quality improvements for plan participants, or return that money…"




    Does the refund go to everyone that had a particular carrier that over collected?
    Do they just send a check, or are they allowed to somehow discount future premiums?  I never got a check.

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