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October 24, 2018 10:15 AM UTC

Terror Scare Hits CNN, Obamas, Clintons

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  • by: Colorado Pols

UPDATE: New York Times reports as the investigation continues:

Pipe bombs were sent to several prominent Democrats, including former President Barack Obama and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, setting off an intense investigation on Wednesday into whether a bomber is going after political figures vilified by the right wing.

CNN received a similar bomb, addressed to John O. Brennan, a career intelligence officer who served as Mr. Obama’s C.I.A. director. The discovery of the device caused a mass evacuation of the Time Warner Center in Midtown Manhattan, where the network is located.

None of the devices harmed anyone; it was not immediately clear whether any of them could have exploded. One law enforcement official said investigators were examining the possibility that they were hoax devices.

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UPDATE: Politico:

The U.S. Secret Service on Wednesday morning released a statement that it had intercepted two packages, one addressed to Clinton and another to Obama.

Shortly after the statement was released, the Time Warner Center in New York City, where CNN’s New York bureau is located, was also evacuated due to a suspicious package. The package has been removed.

In addition, police in Florida have responded to a suspicious package at Rep. Debbie Wasserman Shultz’s Sunrise office, which was evacuated, Sunrise police confirmed to POLITICO. Police have also dispatched a bomb squad and are determining what was in the package.

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CNN reports following the evacuation of their New York offices this morning:

A US intelligence official tells CNN it is too early to tell whether there is a nexus to terrorism at this point regarding the suspicious packages sent to multiple locations today.

The official says the intelligence community is monitoring the situation regarding the suspicious packages, saying it is still very early in the process.

Intelligence agencies could become involved later on but at this point law enforcement is still assessing the facts on the ground, the official tells CNN.

We’ll be watching this developing story for updates and local reactions. Until we know more, it’s best not to speculate about motives and responsibility.

With that said, be safe out there. No political disagreement merits violence, ever.

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36 thoughts on “Terror Scare Hits CNN, Obamas, Clintons

  1. Whether these devices were capable of hurting anyone or not, whether this effects the mid-term election for the good or the bad, whoever is dragged from their lair for the cameras, whatever their political beliefs, the victim is the truth.

    False flag? Reactionary bigot moved to action by hate from the White House? Whatever the FBI or some other government agency tells us, half the country will believe it, half will blame it on a conspiracy. What's so ironic is that a political movement so based in binary absolutes ("Penis=man," "heartbeat=life,") is responsible for the triumph of postmodernist moral relativism. There is no truth  but what my team says it is!

    If Putin doesn't have Trump on the payroll, he's probably disappointed in himself for not being able to take credit for our destruction.

    1. Trump isn't on Putin's or anyone else's payroll. However, Trump does have all those hundreds of millions of dollars in business loans from Russian interests, including the Russian mafia (read "House of Trump. House of Putin"). 

    1. The devices were quite functional and capable of lethal damage.  Fortunately, we have brave, highly skilled government employees doing their jobs, successfully defending America.

            1. Here's a little light reading for you

               

              Trump:

              Attorney General Jeff Sessions in April announced a "zero-tolerance" policy, meaning every person caught crossing the border illegally would be referred for federal prosecution.

              Obama:

              Immigration experts we spoke to said Obama-era policies did lead to some family separations, but only relatively rarely, and nowhere near the rate of the Trump administration. (A Department of Homeland Security spokeswoman said the Obama administration did not count the number of families separated at the border.)

              "Obama generally refrained from prosecution in cases involving adults who crossed the border with their kids," said Peter Margulies, an immigration law and national security law professor at Roger Williams University School of Law. "In contrast, the current administration has chosen to prosecute adult border-crossers, even when they have kids. That's a choice — one fundamentally different from the choice made by both Obama and previous presidents of both parties."

              Denise Gilman, a law professor who directs the immigration clinic at the University of Texas School of Law, said immigration attorneys "occasionally" saw separated families under the Obama administration.

              "However, these families were usually reunited quite quickly once identified," she said, "even if that meant release of a parent from adult detention."

              In Trump’s case, family separations are a feature, not a bug, of the administration’s border policies, said David Fitzgerald, who co-directs the Center for Comparative Immigration Studies.

              "The family separations are not the small-scale collateral consequences of a border policy, but rather, a deliberate initiative," he added.

      1. That caravan of people who are coming to wash Pears car, mow his lawn, harvest our crops, pack our pork, prop up social security. (the unfortunate ones may have to bear Twitler’s child after he can find a spare Einstein visa).  

    1. How many stamps do you think you need ….

      You're the expert on mailing weapons for maiming and murder. How many?

      Of course, we understand that you are merely parroting the latest right wing pushback fantasy – there were no pipe bombs,  no Democrats or journalists were targeted,  this is all merely a ploy to gain sympathy.

      False flag, bla bla bla.

      So predictable you are. And so fucking heartless.

        1. What "jobs" are those, Pear? Haven't seen a lot of coal mining jobs coming back yet. Haven't seen a lot of manufacturing jobs returning to the Rust Belt yet. Trump's tariffs may help a few thousand steel and aluminum workers. But thousands more will lose jobs thanks to the tariffs that make raw materials and finished products more expensive.

          What about right wing "mobs," like Charlottesville? Proud Boys seem to get arrested wherever they're at. And you quickly forget the far right wingers who took over the wildlife refuge in Oregon couple years ago.

          As for bombs, how come all the recent targets were Dems and/or liberals? Only in the wet dream fantasyland of the far right are those bombs done by Dems. Law enforcement will figure it out.

          I'm neither a Dem nor a liberal. But I am interested in intellectual honesty.

      1. Well, I do know a typical silencer weighs approx. 14 oz, and would be lighter than a general use steel water pipe of similar length packed with explosives and a detonator. Estimating postage at 1 stamp/ounce would require 14 stamps. However, the USPS 13 ounce rule would require the package to be presented at the Post Office. 

        I have no doubt there were pipe bombs, nor do I doubt that Democrats and journalists were targeted. That is plain as day. I do doubt, based on the physical evidence, that a pipe bomb was sent via USPS with 6 non-postmarked stamps. 

        1. Negev: you might be surprised at what goes through the postal service these days, in way of packages with uncanceled stamps. Almost all packages and large envelopes, with stamps, that I receive are not canceled. 

          Mailing from a big city increases the likelihood of not being canceled.

          1. Update: I saw a photo of the pipe bomb:

            It appears much smaller than anticipated. It is also being reported that the pipe is actually PVC, which would dramatically decrease the weight and may pass the 6oz postage paid, however the chances of this being a live bomb decrease dramatically at that weight/size. With a 100% failure rate it's most likely a prop.

            Certainly does not excuse this stunt as anything less than terrorism. 

      2. That's unfair to Negev, mj, whose comments are wholly reasonable.   In fact, authorites say at least two of the bombs appear to have been hand delivered.

    2. It's unlikely that all of them were hand-delivered, but we know the Soros package was, and CNN's offices in New York are near enough to that.

      The package intended for Holder was bounced back to Wasserman-Schultz via mail, though, so at least some were mailed.

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