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October 05, 2018 06:58 AM UTC

Friday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“You cannot get ahead while you are getting even.”

–Dick Armey

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  1. The Denver Post editorial board urges Gardner to vote NO on Kavanaugh.  Too bad they helped put Gardner in office by endorsing him in 2014.  Better late than never?  Nope.

  2. Well, there you have it:

    Sen. Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska, one of four undecided key senators, voted against advancing Kavanaugh in a procedural vote, while Sens. Jeff Flake, R-Arizona, Susan Collins, R-Maine, and Sen. Joe Manchin, D-West Virginia, voted to advance his nomination. That does not necessarily mean those senators will vote the same way in a final vote, the timing of which has yet to be announced.

    1. 51-49 to advance.

      One Senator voting yes will be away for his daughter's wedding on Saturday, when the final vote is expected, leading to 50-49.

      So, any additional defections (Collins, Flake, Manchin) and maintenance of the opposition (probable) would sink the nomination. Veep Pence drops out of the equation.

        1. It blows my mind that we are still only talking about these few senators. T***ps' moral vacuum has sucked ALL the other Republican Senators into this cesspool of party politics. Where are the reporters and electeds who are, daily, reminding the voters of the crooked shit started by Mitch McConnell? I would not apologize for anything short of violence that senators, congressmen, professional public servants, the press, and millions of citizens do to stop this miscarriage of justice. Remember Merrick Garland? Mc Connell and his bunch of criminal billionaires DIDN'T EVEN GIVE HIM A HEARING.

          There is no apologizing here. These are fascist tactics being used to subvert justice. Using the same talking point used by every Republican at the time. This appointment should not even be considered until AFTER the people vote. McConnell has been planning to put a Republican RWNJ on the bench for along time. He is squirming now. His plan is being threatened by conscience, morality, and ethics. Things, of which, he has no understanding.

           

          1. This will definitely have consequences for Republicans in November.  But we are in the depths of the ugliest period in our politics since the Civil War.  Even the '50's during McCarthyism weren't this bad.

          2. Totally agree with you, Duke. These are far from normal times, and sadly but realistically Dems and U's cannot just be the nice guys. McConnell is as dirty as they come, and ALL of the R's who have mindlessly followed his lead need to pay at the ballot box, sooner or later.

    1. Well, it probably doesn't matter anymore. When it looked like the Dems might take the majority in November in the Senate – I know, a long shot – Manchin would have served a purpose.

      Just like in 2006 when Harry Reid welcomed Joe Lieberman back – with a committee chairmanship, no less – because he was #51. All was forgiven.

      Lieberman still voted like an asshole when it came to Iraq and neo-con issues, but he also voted to make Harry Reid majority leader. Manchin, if re-elected, presumably would vote with the Dems to organize the Senate. If it turned out that the Senate was 49 Republicans and 50 Democrats, then Manchin's vote would matter a great deal regardless of how he voted on particular issues.

      It will probably end up still being 51 Republicans to 49 Democrats come January (ND and MO will swap with AZ and NV) so it doesn't really matter.

      When things get dicey is when Ginsburg finally has to retire for medical reasons and Trump rolls out Amy Barrett as his next nominee. Be afraid, be very afraid.

      I do not like his judicial nominees for many reasons but you have to admire how he has kept his word to his base and delivers on it.

       

       

       

      1. Real Clear Politics reflected couple days ago what R & R says. Senate, with toss-ups removed, stays 51-49 R.

        Elections do have consequences. All those Dems who stayed home two years ago figuring Hillary had it in the bag. And I don’t think they have learned their lesson yet.

  3. We may have the first person offering to host Susan Collins' retirement party in 2020

    Even more amazing is that “generic Democrat” has raised about $2 million to kickstart their campaign!

    On Friday afternoon, as Maine Sen. Susan Collins gave a speech on the Senate floor explaining why she would vote in favor of Judge Brett Kavanaugh’s confirmation to the Supreme Court, the progressive crowdfunding platform Crowdpac began receiving a flood of campaign donations for her eventual Democratic challenger when she runs for re-election in 2020. In fact, it appears that Crowdpac was deluged by so many donations that it shut down due to an internal server error.

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/10/susan-collins-brett-kavanaugh-vote-maine-senator-donations.html?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=traffic&utm_content=TheSlatest&utm_source=newsletter&sid=5388f44edd52b8e41100d97c

      1. Options already mentioned include Susan Rice (Obama's United Nations ambassador and national security adviser, with long ties to Maine), Chellie Pingree (US Rep, Maine-01), previous opponent Shenna Bellows (ACLU exec, now Maine State Senator), and Sarah Gideon (Speaker of the House).

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