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July 24, 2018 06:47 AM UTC

Tuesday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“With audacity one can undertake anything, but not do everything.”

–Napoleon Bonaparte

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29 thoughts on “Tuesday Open Thread

  1. One bit of good/not so good news for the Stinking Menace who is currently *resident in the White House.

    His short term campaign manager Manafort (one of the "very best people") won't be in court this week after all. So, some days without him being at the top of the news cycle. Manafort and his attorneys get to prepare for a whole EXTRA WEEK before beginning the trial on July 31.

    Of course, that puts the matter one week closer to the primaries, and thus more likely to stick in the minds of the voters.

    1. This guy is a case study in the fear, paranoia and willingness to fall for the most outrageous con jobs that has fueled the Republican Party for decades.  Spencer is a hateful gadfly like a couple of former C Springs state reps we all know.  He got clobbered by his hometown voters who know him best.

      He was beaten in the Republican primary by a 24 year old newcomer who actually appears to be a sharp and decent guy.   His platform even includes improving access to healthcare and healthy lifestyles as a priority.

    2. I never thought I'd say it but he actually makes Lori Saine look rational, and Dr. Chaps look dignified. I guess the Centennial State does not have the freakiest legislators.

  2. Good advice from Michelle Goldberg of the NYTimes: Democrats Are Moving Left. Don’t Panic.

    ..the economic demands that animate the left are generally quite popular. Though “Medicare For All” means different things to different people, a Kaiser Family Foundation poll from last year found that 62 percent of Americans view it positively. A recent Rasmussen poll found 46 percent of likely voters support a federal jobs guarantee, a more radical proposal that was barely present in American politics a couple of years ago.

    Centrists might not think these are good ideas, but they are not wild fantasies; they represent efforts to grapple with the chronic economic insecurity that is the enemy of political stability.

    Democrats will not defeat Trump and his increasingly fanatical, revanchist party by promising the restoration of what came before him; the country is desperate for a vision of something better. Whether or not you share that vision, if you truly believe that Trump is a threat to democracy, you should welcome politics that inspire people to come to democracy’s rescue.

    In 2016 Americans on both the left and right wanted to shake things up in Washington.  So the appeal of the status quo that Hillary was promising just wasn't working. But I suspect that a significant number of Trump voters are regretting they weren't more careful about what they wished for.

    The desire for real action is still there, and that is why we need a stronger message of tangible options to address the needs of the 99% that are getting left behind at an ever-faster pace due to a Republican agenda attempting to hardwire  into the system for generations to come gains only for the wealthy.

    1. Medicare for All is too easily attacked.

      Why not "lower the Medicare age by one year per year"?
      And, raise the Medicare tax by 9 basis points per year because "we are not the party of fiscal irresponsibility".

      Let's see how it goes after 5 years.

      1. Dave, the solution is simple. We are only going to make "rich people" (whatever that term is defined to mean) pay for the Medicare tax.

  3. Finally, some fucking socialism up in this bitch.  Government in action!

    <record scratch>

    White House readies plan for $12 billion in emergency aid to farmers caught in Trump’s escalating trade war

    Trump ordered Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue to prepare a range of options several months ago, amid complaints from farmers that their products faced retaliatory tariffs from China and other countries. The new package of government assistance funds will be announced Tuesday and is expected to go into effect by Labor Day.

    The aid package is expected to target soybean farmers, dairy farmers, and pork producers, among others. White House officials hope it will quiet some of the unease from farm groups, but the new plan could revive debates about taxpayer-funded bailouts and the degree to which Trump’s trade strategy is leading to unforeseen costs.

    1. Wait until John W. Public figures out the bulk of that $12 billion will end up in the hands of a very few, large producers. 

      Don’t worry, it’s not considered socialism out in these parts.  That only applies when libtards and people-of-color get the free stuff. 

      1. Ah yes, brings back memories of all those self-sufficient Republicans that don't need no stinkin' Gub’mint help:

        The second day of the 2012 Republican National Convention was themed "We Built It" as both a celebration of small businesses and an attack on Obama's comments.[25][26] SalonPolitical Wire, and a humor website later commented on the fact that the stadium where the GOP hosted the "We Built It" theme at the convention was constructed using 62% taxpayer financing

        Gen-you-wine 5-Star-General Rank Hypocrisy

      2. This package includes pork producers. Someone might let our stable genius know America’s (and the world's) largest pig producer, is WH Group, which is Chinese.  WH Group is the parent company of U.S.-based Smithfield Foods (100% owned by WH).

        Nearly all Yuma County pork production is owned by the Chinese.  By all accounts they are good neighbors. 

        So are we sending taxpayer dollars to the Chinese-owned, American-based Smithfield Foods?

        China is laughing all the way to both banks

      3. I wonder if John Q. Public will figure out he's getting soaked twice. First, paying higher prices on goods and then paying the American producers for lost sales abroad?

        Nah, what am I thinking? This is M.A.G.A.!

    2. OOf!  Republicans are not happy:

      The plan met with swift condemnation from Republicans, who said that Mr. Trump had devised an expensive solution to a crisis of Depression-era proportions.

      “This trade war is cutting the legs out from under farmers and White House’s ‘plan’ is to spend $12 billion on gold crutches,” said Senator Ben Sasse of Nebraska. “This administration’s tariffs and bailouts aren’t going to make America great again, they’re just going to make it 1929 again.”

    3. I can hear the Fox News spin now …

      It isn't picking winners and losers in the economy if they have to APPLY for the benefits to offset the harms caused by the US going to Trade War. Why, it's practically as patriotic as soldiers getting VA benefits.

      I would bet [or maybe wouldn't bet — those ideas are so much the same]

       * the application process & the vetting process are easier than applying for FEMA benefits in Puerto Rico.

       * the processing time is quicker.

       * the acceptance rate is much higher.

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