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  by: Colorado Pols July 24, 2018 at 6:47 AM MDT

“With audacity one can undertake anything, but not do everything.”

–Napoleon Bonaparte

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  1. JohnInDenver says:
    July 24, 2018 at 7:07 AM MDT

    One bit of good/not so good news for the Stinking Menace who is currently *resident in the White House.

    His short term campaign manager Manafort (one of the "very best people") won't be in court this week after all. So, some days without him being at the top of the news cycle. Manafort and his attorneys get to prepare for a whole EXTRA WEEK before beginning the trial on July 31.

    Of course, that puts the matter one week closer to the primaries, and thus more likely to stick in the minds of the voters.

  2. Zappatero says:
    July 24, 2018 at 7:23 AM MDT

    Democrats aren’t moving “too far” left when Republicans have systematically dragged the economic discussion to the right since Reagan. 

    Fear not, my Purple State Napoleons!

  3. MichaelBowman says:
    July 24, 2018 at 7:36 AM MDT

    I read this with my first cup of joe this morning and couldn’t keep from laughing imagining Nutter being conned into doing the same thing. 

    By November the fever will be high enough in Nutterville that all of Moddy’s friends will be protecting themselves by dropping trou and assaulting progressive voters with their bare behinds. 

  4. Davie says:
    July 24, 2018 at 10:26 AM MDT

    Good advice from Michelle Goldberg of the NYTimes: Democrats Are Moving Left. Don’t Panic.

    ..the economic demands that animate the left are generally quite popular. Though “Medicare For All” means different things to different people, a Kaiser Family Foundation poll from last year found that 62 percent of Americans view it positively. A recent Rasmussen poll found 46 percent of likely voters support a federal jobs guarantee, a more radical proposal that was barely present in American politics a couple of years ago.

    Centrists might not think these are good ideas, but they are not wild fantasies; they represent efforts to grapple with the chronic economic insecurity that is the enemy of political stability.

    Democrats will not defeat Trump and his increasingly fanatical, revanchist party by promising the restoration of what came before him; the country is desperate for a vision of something better. Whether or not you share that vision, if you truly believe that Trump is a threat to democracy, you should welcome politics that inspire people to come to democracy’s rescue.

    In 2016 Americans on both the left and right wanted to shake things up in Washington.  So the appeal of the status quo that Hillary was promising just wasn't working. But I suspect that a significant number of Trump voters are regretting they weren't more careful about what they wished for.

    The desire for real action is still there, and that is why we need a stronger message of tangible options to address the needs of the 99% that are getting left behind at an ever-faster pace due to a Republican agenda attempting to hardwire  into the system for generations to come gains only for the wealthy.

  5. Pseudonymous says:
    July 24, 2018 at 10:32 AM MDT

    Finally, some fucking socialism up in this bitch.  Government in action!

    <record scratch>

    White House readies plan for $12 billion in emergency aid to farmers caught in Trump’s escalating trade war

    Trump ordered Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue to prepare a range of options several months ago, amid complaints from farmers that their products faced retaliatory tariffs from China and other countries. The new package of government assistance funds will be announced Tuesday and is expected to go into effect by Labor Day.

    The aid package is expected to target soybean farmers, dairy farmers, and pork producers, among others. White House officials hope it will quiet some of the unease from farm groups, but the new plan could revive debates about taxpayer-funded bailouts and the degree to which Trump’s trade strategy is leading to unforeseen costs.

    • MichaelBowman says:
      July 24, 2018 at 10:41 AM MDT

      Wait until John W. Public figures out the bulk of that $12 billion will end up in the hands of a very few, large producers. 

      Don’t worry, it’s not considered socialism out in these parts.  That only applies when libtards and people-of-color get the free stuff. 

      • Voyageur says:
        July 24, 2018 at 10:44 AM MDT

        It's not socialism when the money goes to rich white guys.

      • Davie says:
        July 24, 2018 at 10:56 AM MDT

        Ah yes, brings back memories of all those self-sufficient Republicans that don't need no stinkin' Gub’mint help:

        The second day of the 2012 Republican National Convention was themed "We Built It" as both a celebration of small businesses and an attack on Obama's comments.[25][26] Salon, Political Wire, and a humor website later commented on the fact that the stadium where the GOP hosted the "We Built It" theme at the convention was constructed using 62% taxpayer financing

        Gen-you-wine 5-Star-General Rank Hypocrisy

      • MichaelBowman says:
        July 24, 2018 at 11:00 AM MDT

        This package includes pork producers. Someone might let our stable genius know America’s (and the world's) largest pig producer, is WH Group, which is Chinese.  WH Group is the parent company of U.S.-based Smithfield Foods (100% owned by WH).

        Nearly all Yuma County pork production is owned by the Chinese.  By all accounts they are good neighbors. 

        So are we sending taxpayer dollars to the Chinese-owned, American-based Smithfield Foods?

        China is laughing all the way to both banks

      • notaskinnycook says:
        July 24, 2018 at 12:44 PM MDT

        I wonder if John Q. Public will figure out he's getting soaked twice. First, paying higher prices on goods and then paying the American producers for lost sales abroad?

        Nah, what am I thinking? This is M.A.G.A.!

    • Davie says:
      July 24, 2018 at 11:05 AM MDT

      OOf!  Republicans are not happy:

      The plan met with swift condemnation from Republicans, who said that Mr. Trump had devised an expensive solution to a crisis of Depression-era proportions.

      “This trade war is cutting the legs out from under farmers and White House’s ‘plan’ is to spend $12 billion on gold crutches,” said Senator Ben Sasse of Nebraska. “This administration’s tariffs and bailouts aren’t going to make America great again, they’re just going to make it 1929 again.”

    • JohnInDenver says:
      July 24, 2018 at 12:34 PM MDT

      I can hear the Fox News spin now …

      It isn't picking winners and losers in the economy if they have to APPLY for the benefits to offset the harms caused by the US going to Trade War. Why, it's practically as patriotic as soldiers getting VA benefits.

      I would bet [or maybe wouldn't bet — those ideas are so much the same]

       * the application process & the vetting process are easier than applying for FEMA benefits in Puerto Rico.

       * the processing time is quicker.

       * the acceptance rate is much higher.

    • RepealAndReplace says:
      July 25, 2018 at 6:41 AM MDT

      MFHA….Make Farmers Happy Again

  6. Davie says:
    July 24, 2018 at 8:16 PM MDT

    People in Trump's administration are now thinking "D'oh, maybe we shouldn't kill the people that have voted for us"

    Trump administration to resume Obamacare’s insurer payments

  7. Davie says:
    July 24, 2018 at 8:36 PM MDT

    Trump's budding circle of Kleptocrats are having a tough time turning a profit

    Two Trump Allies, Seeing Unlimited Opportunity, Instead Drew Scrutiny

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