This just in my inbox:
Dear Thilly,
Three new polls confirm what those of us on the Western Slope have known for years: Andrew Romanoff is Colorado.
Andrew ranks as the most popular Democrat in recent surveys by Rassmussen Reports and by 760 AM, Colorado’s Progressive Talk radio station. He tops the entire field in a Denver Business Journal poll.
Of course, I don’t need a poll to tell me about Andrew Romanoff. I know him. I know he’ll fight for Colorado, because that’s what he’s done for more than a decade and a half.
[…]
Noelle Hagan
Former Mayor of Montrose
The three “polls” to which the Romanoff campaign refers consist of two freeped internet polls and the aforementioned Rasmussen poll which, in fact, shows him losing by a larger margin than Michael Bennet.
My advice to Andrew: Stop taking advice from Ken Gordon, the only potentially viable Democratic candidate in 2006 to lose statewide amidst a Democratic landslide. And apologize for sending out something so patently dishonest. You are way better than this.
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If Andrew were a Republican and sent something like this out, he’d be on Keith Olbermann’s Worst Persons in the World.
What an embarrassment.
Well, you’re right. Two of these “polls” aren’t even polls, and the third (Rassmussen) is inconclusive and unreliable. But I think it’s way beyond a stretch to extrapolate this into an over-arching condemnation of the entire campaign.
Now if you were to simply extrapolate the fact that Romanoff has done nothing for the past 3 months as an over-arching condemnation of the campaign, that would not be a stretch.
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-Rassmussen is even polling him
-He still draws lower but stable numbers statewide, comparable to Bennet
-3 months of “doing nothing” has him dropping Bennet at the state assembly
I keep hearing from rouge Democrats that the
anointedappointed one might be forced to petition on, I just don’t believe it.As many times as you have read Caribou Barbies book, how come you still can’t get the “rogue” vs. “rouge” thing?
Rouge…French for red…as in Baton Rouge, meaning “red stick”.
Rogue…English for “maverick”…as in “can’t get along with anybody”. Or alternately, “demise of the Republican Party”.
I hope this helps you to remember the difference in future posts. You’re welcome. 🙂
I don’t follow Palin, sorry. But many women seem to like her, she seems to represent a segment of homemakers, professional women, grandmothers, Jane 6 packers very well.
Apparently she’s on a book tour and drawing good crowds.
Ah yes, the women who buy into the patriarchy are still afforded a certain amount of power and to that, they will cling. I’m glad they finally have a lying simpleton they can understand without their eyes glazing over while they drink their Jane “6 packs”.
Turds. All of ’em.
ROFL hadn’t noticed that until now. Oh the irony.
Twitter makes it impossible to pull a phrase out of context, because there is no context. Thus a delicious opportunity to provide some. Well done.
It never ceases to be shocking, how stupid Republicans can be.
Providing politicians the chance to hurt themselves with one minute effort.
The Denver elections mess probably cost him the election that year. If all those voters who got turned away or sick of waiting in line had gotten a chance to vote, he could have very well beaten Mike Coffman.
Bit of a non sequitur, but I thought it was worth mentioning.
Ritter outpolled Gordon by 6.24 points in Denver in a 5-way race when Gordon had no third-party candidates.
Cary Kennedy faced the exact same uphill climb that Gordon did (downballot, popular Republican opponent). In fact she had more of a climb–she ran against the guy who used to have Gordon’s job before he did, and who was the then-current incumbent. And yet she pulled it off.
Gordon lost due to 5 hour waits to vote in the democratic stronghold of Denver.
Makes you wonder about later revelations of Coffman hiring Diebold peeps to run his campaign for cd-6, along with all the other ethics violations he committed as Sec of State.
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http://www.coloradopols.com/sh…
Is the problem that no one is calling on Colorado Pols’ editors and asking them their advice from the Romanoff campaign? Wah, wah you sound like cry babies.
Pot meet kettle.
Romanoff is not going to drop out.
If you want to get him out, you’re going to have to do it a different way. Like by beating him.
Ken Gordon isn’t going to be a big help for Andrew, but that’s personal.
I have no dog in this fight. I plan on voting for whoever ends up being the candidate. All I have ever asked of either campaign is for people to not try to bullshit me. Because nobody can.
With your one-answer poll above, I now feel like you’re trying to bullshit me. So is Noelle Hagan with her bullshit email.
Good luck with that, both of you.
Supporters of one Senate candidate or the other are going to have to do better. Much better.
I want him to stop being an idiot and start acting like the respected Speaker of the House that I remember.
And while the five hour wait most likely made the difference in the close election for Ken, couldn’t agree more with the following: “My advice to Andrew: Stop taking advice from Ken Gordon”. It shouldn’t have been that close.
We all know, for instance, that Gore actually did win his close 2000 election, but it was his awful campaign that allowed it to be close enough to steal. So we can whine in both cases but, were I running for a something, I wouldn’t be hiring either of those campaign’s advisers.
Gordon had a statewide deficit of 23,871 votes.
In order to make that up in Denver County alone, turnout would have had to be in the range of 73.5% (vs the actual turnout of 58.6%)–a turnout that would be unprecedented for a non-presidential year.
Gordon’s problem was that he lost big counties that he should have won by large margins like Ritter and Cary Kennedy did– Jefferson, Arapahoe, Larimer, Broomfield. And he significantly underperformed Ritter in the counties he did win–Boulder, Adams, Denver, Pueblo– as well as large counties where Democratic votes are still critical even though there’s no chance of winning them– Douglas, El Paso, Weld, & Mesa.
90,000 of the 160,000 votes cast in Denver were early or absentee, meaning election day turnout would have had to be on the order of 60% higher (an additional 41,000 voters) for Gordon to pull a win. The bottom line is that despite the election debacle, Ken Gordon lost the election by the numbers.
So I guess we can’t even use that 5 hour wait as an excuse anymore. Thanks, Thilly
One sacred cow at a time
I found your poll to be hard to freep.
That’s the way they do it in Cuba, where they have universal medical care.
I’m supposed to vote in an Internet poll on the subject of whether Internet polls are reliable?
Uhhh
hmmn
what to do, what to do?
Lies, damn lies, etc., etc.
plus or minus 80 percent!
then they aren’t real polls. Rasmussen tilts right. They could skew the sample. It is silly to put out an unscientific poll as legtimate in a US Senate race. The methology needs examination. Internet polls aren’t real polls.
I agree with your assesment regarding the fact tht internet polls means absolutely nothing.
Summit Daily newspaper’s online polls, I learned, are actually a dead-on representation of political opinion in Summit – that’s the only entity I have ever seen to have accurate Internet polling of their local demographic
Including this one?
6.38%
🙂
at your door Halloween night was a flattering surprise? That’s pretty cool …
for once, you’re absolutely dead on in your assessment of AR–he’s not a serious candidate.
He cracks far too many jokes to be considered a serious candidate.
Especially when dissing Romanoff.
I think he’s making a mistake going for this seat at this time. And doing a lousy job at that.
If he were to primary Ritter, and do it well, that would be a bandwagon I could jump on.
I think Ritter is entitled to respect, both for the job he’s done and because I don’t believe in primarying an elected incumbent unless he has screwed up in a major way. Such challenges, by their nature, tear up the party and open the way to defeat, as Ted Kennedy did with Jimmy Carter. An appointed incumbent like Bennet, however, has no mandate and no call to keep others from reasonably seeking the same office.
Ritter has made his mistakes, including the Bennet appointment (where he should have gone for Hickenlooper.) But I have no problem supporting him against the Visigoths who would destroy our highways and ruin our higher education system — and unfortunately, that’s the box Scott McInnis put himself into to curry favor with the far right.
Or some hybrid like Massachusetts has settled for–a temporary appointment until a special election is conducted.
But I think Ritter’s failure to aggressively push a fix for the state’s long-term fiscal stability is a pretty major screw-up.
If it weren’t for the stimulus, we’d be in an unfathomable position (assuming our current position is particularly fathomable).
But tell us, please: What is Romanoff doing so well in his campaign thus far? We have nothing against the guy, but what are we supposed to be so impressed by in terms of his campaign?
But it’s hard to disagree. This email is just like the silly crap that joker candidates like Cleve Tidwell send out. It’s not just ridiculous — coming from someone as respected as Romanoff, it’s sad.
http://www.denverpost.com/head…
To say I’m disappointed at such a lackluster effort would make me guilty of using litotes.
It would appear that even Libby, LB, J and SH agree.
I’m a consensus-builder.
Sorry. Couldn’t resist. 🙂