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October 23, 2009 03:43 PM UTC

Open Line Friday!

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    1. The very bedrock of their districts happen to be “not-for-profit” entities: (and the bedrock of most rural communities nationwide):  their local rural electric cooperative, mandated under FDR; their local ACE Hardware store; local rural telephone cooperatives such as the Plains Cooperative Telephone Association; the local cooperative that supplies gas, fertilizer and chemical to the area farmers, and last but not least, [in Wray] a not-for-profit extended living facility that houses one of Senator Brophy’s close relatives.  Yes, by all means, let’s rid rural Colorado of the plague of the “not-for-profit” notion…..and make sure the evils of such a plan NEVER find their way into the American landscape.

  1. Hoping to reconstruct themselves as a party with broad appeal–beyond the 20% (predominantly aging white men concentrated south of the Mason Dixon line) that identify themselves as Republicans, ‘friends and associates’ are encouraging Faux Noise head Roger Ailes to run for president in 2012.

    He is a photogenic old cuss, as you can tell by following this link.

    Friends and associates are encouraging Fox News chief Roger Ailes to jump into the political arena for real by running for president in 2012, top sources tell POLITICO.

    “Ailes knows how to frame an issue better than anybody, and that’s what we need now,” says one Ailes friend who is encouraging the Fox founder, chairman and CEO to seek the Republican nomination to run against President Barack Obama.

    Ailes, 69, has an aggessive, winning personality that made Fox News a huge success – and a huge target for liberal critics.

    Frank Luntz, the well-known Republican pollster, said Ailes could be a force if he makes the run.

    “I have known Roger Ailes for 29 years,” says Luntz. “No one knows how to win better than Roger.”

    Talk of an Ailes run, which informed sources said is based on more than mere speculation, could escalate the White House war with Fox war in wildly unpredictable – and fun – ways.

    It was Ailes who recently held a private meeting with top White House adviser David Axelrod to ease tensions. The meeting was not a success.

  2. This past week Romanoff has been raising only about $1000 per day on ActBlue and Bennet about $4000 per day from that same site. Last quarter Romanoff raised about 60% of his cash from ActBlue while Bennet raised about 20%. Not sure what if anything this means.  

  3. In a story in today’s GJ Sentinel, Kathy Hall has this to say about her cameo in the movie Split Estate. (In the movie she was filmed claiming that she had held fracking fluids, straight from the truck, in her mouth. She also claimed she was “OK.” Some might debate the veracity of the latter claim.)

    Hall said her fracturing fluid comment was dubbed into the production.

    “I didn’t say those words, but it has nothing to do with me leaving COGA,” Hall said.

    You may recall that in the documentary, she was filmed claiming that she had held fracking fluids, straight from the truck, in her mouth. She also claimed she was “OK.” Some might debate the veracity of the latter claim.

    I’m no attorney, but it seems to me that Kathy Hall is accusing the film’s producers and director of defamation.

    Here’s what the director had to say in the same Sentinel story:

    “Split Estate” director Debra Anderson said Hall’s words “absolutely” were not dubbed and that to do so would be “totally impossible.”

    “If we had her cooperation doing that, it would be possible, but it wouldn’t look good,” Anderson said.

    Anderson added, “We asked her very straight questions about if the fracking fluids are harmful. She wasn’t led into that. She said that herself. It wouldn’t have occurred to me to ask her to say something like that because it’s such a ridiculous thing to say.” [emphasis added]

    I hope the director has her attorney working on this right now.

    Somebody is lying. I’ve seen the movie and I’ve watched the trailer (available at link above) several times. I don’t see any evidence of dubbing.

    If Kathy Hall is willing to lie about something she said that was captured on video for all to see and hear, what else has she been willing to lie about in exchange for money from O&G?

    1. As someone who has experience with audio post-production for film, and having watched the trailer for Split Estate which features her infamous quote, I can say without a shadow of a doubt that she is completely full of it.

      To lay people, the process of going through and dubbing (also known as ADR, or automated dialog replacement) the audio for a piece of film might not seem that hard. On the contrary, it is one of the most painstakingly difficult parts of the post-production process. In the case of Kathy Hall’s interview in the film, where she is on camera, and her lips are moving, it would be virtually impossible to get the sound to synch up exactly, and to recreate her voice to fit in with the rest of the interview.

      Beyond the fact that it would be wholly unethical for a documentary filmmaker to try to recreate a line of dialog like Hall’s in an interview, it would be so difficult, and such a waste of time, that any filmmaker would be dumb to attempt it in the first place. Simply put, it would look and sound fake.

      Kathy Hall needs to face the facts–she either had fracking fluid in her mouth, or made it up because she thought it would sound good. But as to the veracity of the clip in Split Estate? The camera and the microphone don’t lie. I can’t say the same for Kathy Hall.

    2. People complain all the time about being misquoted, quotes being taken out of context and video being edited to make them look bad. Ask anybody who’s ever worked at a newspaper or television station or on a political campaign.

      I don’t know what Hall said on the film. She can complain all she wants, but it doesn’t make it slander.

  4. Very painfully true SNL skits aside, President Obama has delivered on virtually ALL of his campaign promises to veterans:

    *Appoint adult leadership to the VA (GEN Shinseki)

    *Opening the VA to all Priority Groups

    *Ending the Means Test for Care

    *Massive increase in the VA budget to take care of wounded vets

    And yesterday, signing the Veterans Health Care Budget Reform and Transparency Act. Long story short, the VA budget NOW has to be approved a year in advance. No more last minute hack n slash jobs that force the VA to juggle care.

    This law was needed because of the last 23 years of VA budgets, 20 were late…sometimes months into that fiscal year of operation. That includes this year.

    Story here: http://www.reuters.com/article

    So, Gecko, ‘tad and the rest of the Obama-haters – Bite me and my disabled vet self. I await your moronic and unintelligible posts about how the Prez is ruining Veteran Health Care.

    1. .

      It sounds like his interfering with the system [Opening the VA to all Priority Groups] will even allow low-life non-combat-vet, non-disabled (in the traditional sense) shirkers like me get care.

      I’ll have to look into that.

      .

      1. …do you know what priority group you’re in? Groups 6-8 probably shouldn’t bother going to the Springs VA until the new hospital is built.

        I do know 7-8 get seen after a long-ish wait up in Denver.

        BTW, don’t think you got out of the US Army unscathed. Every paint an armored vehicle with CARC paint? Work in the NBC room? Get soaked to the skin in Diesel refueling vehicles? Get ANY sort of innoculation with an air gun before 1992?

        You might be in for a nasty surprise in a few years….

  5.    The Senate passed a defense authorization bill yesterday by a vote of 68 to 29.  Twenty-eight GOP Senators (plus Russ Feingold) voted against the bill.

      I guess the good news is that there were 10 Republicans who supported our troops and voted for the bill.

     

      1. That a defense spending bill is an appropriate place to stick totally unrelated legislation.

        Glad it passed (the hate crime bill as well as the defense spending), but easy on the contrived ‘don’t support the troops’ tripe.  Everyone knows what the deal is here.

      2.    Kay Bailey Hutchison and John Cornyn, both very conservative Repubs from Texas (where James Burd was brutally murdered in a racially motive crime) voted “Aye,” while John Barasso and Mike Enzi, both very conservative Repubs from Wyoming (where Matthew Shepard was brutally murdered by a couple of homophobes) voted “Nay.”  Go figure…

          I’m wondering whether KBH is going to get grief from Governor Goodhair in her primary challenge to him next spring.

          Life is full of choices, including tough ones.  When it came to choosing which was more important, supporting our troops or kissing the asses of religious bigots, 28 Republican Senators went with kissing the bigots’ asses.

  6. Smart power.

    The deal drafted by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) has already been approved by the other parties – the United States, Russia and France.

    By offering a rival proposal, Iran appeared to be following a well-tested strategy of buying time to avert a threatened tightening of international sanctions.

    Get ready, Israel is warming up the jets.

  7. He spoke about the canadian helath care system that Obamacare so wants to copy. He ran some statistics that I looked up and copied. I can’t imagine why ANYONE would want this……

    Wait times for different procedures:

    Cardio Elceted Surg  7.3 weeks

    General Surgery      11.3 weeks

    Gynecology             16.1 weeks

    Internal Medicine     12.5 weeks

    Neurosurgery          31.7 weeks

    Opthalmology          22.5 weeks

    Otolarygology          16.9 weeks

    Plastic Surgery        35.5 weeks

    Urology                    12.0 weeks  

    Boy howdy. I will be so happy when I can get rid of my crappy old Kaiser plan and get in on this. Why oh why have we waited so long?

    1. Source? I thought so. You DO know that each province publishes their wait times as a requirement of law. So were is this from? Alberta? BC? Do you know?

      On each provinces website, all stats are for ELECTIVE surgery. Not emergency or priority surgery.

      But more importantly, Health Care reform is not based on the Canadian system. The inattentive layman like to drag that statement out when trying to appear informed on the subject, but it’s not true.

      While no one country has been cited, I would say the countries their trying to emulate are  in Europe – Germany, France, Switzerland and the Netherlands.

      All of which have private insurance, and none of which have “socialized medicine.”

      Since reform legislation has originated in the Congress, it’s not “Obamacare” I realize Rosen has instructed his mindless minions to parrot that line, since it’s short and easy to remember. I see you’ve mastered it!

      1. The Fraser Institute is where these stats came from. But I’m sure that wouldn’t matter to you as now all of the sudden Obamacare is NOT going to be modeled after the Canadian……….hmmmmm

        Let’s change our story as we see fit.

        No matter how you look at it, taking away my perfect coverage and that of a vast majority of Americans for a socialized single payer system is fucked up and you know it. Instead of making what we have more efficient, you opt to throw it away along with the jobs of thousands or possibly millions who are in that industry.

        And in return we will get waiting lines months long.

        Oh goodie.

        Hopefully when his highness is voted out in a couple years, the next pres and congress will reverse this mess before it takes affect.

          1. for at least not starting out with name calling like many others here when someone doesn’t agree with them.

            The plan I’m talking about is the one that will be pushed on us after all of our private insurance compaines are run out of business and a single payer system is put into play. That is where this is going. That is what Obama wants. He talked about that when he was campaigning.

            We are on the road to a single payer system just like Canada. They say they just want a “public option”. But the reality is that any government run program (that we all know does not have to make a profit to pay its employees), will run normal companies right out of business. Along with all of their employees. How can it not? And when the government run insurance starts to run out of money, what will they do? Dig a little deeper into our pockets.

            It’s just a matter of time. Start out with an “option” which will lead into a monopoly.

            Long long long waiting periods will follow.

            No competition, no worry about lowering the costs. Right?

            1. I absolutely do not believe the government can be a tax-funded participant and a regulator at the same time.

              It defies logic, common sense, and history.

            2. You mean the country that has lower per capita costs for health care than we do, covers everybody, and has better health care outcomes by every statistical measure? Yeah, that would be really horrible. Unfortunately, if one thing is clear from the health care debate these past several months, the blind ideological resistance to such sanity will prevent it from happening in this country any time in the foreseeable future.

              Don’t worry, Gecko: America will continue to remain a backward nation among developed nations in the world, as defined by almost all measures of human welfare (including infant mortality, educational proficiency, access to health care, distribution of wealth, social mobility, and self-reported happiness, to name a few), thanks to the success of those who share your commitment to preventing progress.

              1. that Obama does not want a single payer system. He has said so. Pelosi and the rest of his cohorts want it to, but they are making baby steps. They know they can not do this all in one shot. The vast majority of us that already have health insurance and are completely satisfied would revolt. Why should we give up our perfectly fine plans for a tiny minority of people that either don’t want health insurance, or can’t afford it? Why not just make a seperate plan, designed only for people making under say 40K a year (family), and let the guvment insure them. Leave the rest of us alone.  

                1. A lot of Democrats would actually prefer a single payer system.

                  Of course, that neglects the fact that to a lot of Democrats, including I believe Obama, “single payer” doesn’t mean government insurer – it means the government pays your preferred insurer at a pre-determined rate.  If you want more expensive coverage than that provided by the government, you pay the difference between the government’s rate and that charged by your insurer.

                  Medicare Part D works this way already, and if it hadn’t been for Republicans (and some Democrats) adding in subsidies to the private insurers “so they could compete” with traditional Medicare, it would be just as cost-effective as Medicare itself (and Medicare wouldn’t be in such a financial mess…  thanks, GOP).

                  1. Your point is an example of why broad-brush-stroke platitudes are the antithesis of understanding the more nuanced reality. A substantial government role in the modern economy is not optional: It is absolutely inevitable and necessary. The markets we all respect could not function without it.

                    The question then becomes how to design that role. One of government’s most essential functions is to act as an agent of the electorate, its buyer in the market using the amassed purchasing power to gain a better price for its principal (the people).

                    Obviously, it’s more complex than that, since government also structures the rules of the market in which it is an agent. But the issues involved require precise analysis, not ideological slogans.

                    There are legitimate reasons to examine the pros and cons of any particular form of government involvement in any particular economic or social enterprise. But you have to do the actual work of examining those pros and cons, rather than assuming them.

        1. There are many flavors of public option available. Single payer is only one of them. but I think that in many people’s minds public option and single payer are synonymous.

          T.R Reid recently published a book that looks at different health care systems around the world. It’s worth a read.

        2. but for Buddha’s sake, you’ve been a “participant” long enough on this website to know that posting unsourced stats gets fire directed your way.

          Bogus Stats + Quoting Rosen = Deserved Response.

            1. But you still haven’t backed up your simpleton statement that five different Health Care Reform Dem bills in Congress are entirely based on the Canadian Health Care System.

              Speak up, Rosen clone!

    2. Gecko proves it.  I’ve seen no plan that is based on the Canadian healthcare system.  Of course, their lies just dovetail with death panels and Kenyan birth certificates.  Plus tinfoil motorcycle helmets don’t offer much protection for the few neurons Gekkonidae have.

    3. Games with statistics:

      Let’s say in the U.S., there are 2 people who need elective cardio surgery (item 1 on your list).

      One, like you, has Kaiser. Let’s say their wait is 4 weeks (following the example of my wife, BTW).

      The other is uninsured. They will never get the surgery because it costs over $100k. So their wait time is infinite.

      The average of 4 weeks and infinity weeks is

      (wait for it)

      INFINITY.

      At least everyone in Canada who needs the surgery gets it.

        1. these wait lists are for elective, non-life threatening surgery. They may certainly help with quality-of-life, but aren’t essential. Those people go to the front of the line.

          1. If I need treatment, I make an appointment and within a week or so I’m in. Why should I be forced into a government run plan that will force me to wait? Why, if I have the funds to pay for a good plan that will treat me for whatever ails me, should I have to wait months and months?

            And don’t say I can just keep my plan because we have already been down that road. There will be no more private plans left once Obamacare kicks in. That is unless a reasonable president and congress gets back in and turns things around for the good of the MAJORITY of the people.

            1. supply and demand: If you want to pay for a private plan, you will be able to. It will always be available to you: In the “worst case” scenario (from your perspective), at a cost over and above your contribution to the public option.

              A range of possible futures exist in a regime with a public option, defined by these two poles: (1) people will choose to or not choose to buy private plans because they are a superior or an inferior bargain on an even playing field, or (2) few people will choose to buy private plans because they will have to do so only after paying for their share of the public option (if it evolves in the direction you anticipate). Neither of these outcomes is bad or unfair. Both are completely faithful to the spirit in which this nation was founded, and the legal structure that defines it.

              If your only concern is for the majority of the people, then let’s reinstitute slavery (which enslaved a minority for the benefit of the majority), and get rid of the Bill of Rights (which is specifically designed to protect minorities against the majority).

              Nor does the majority currently agree with you: In several different polls, 57% of Americans favor the public option. So, not only do you want to screw those less fortunate than you, but you want to do so in defiance of the nation’s popular will.

              We live in a constitutional democracy, with the commitment to “promote the general welfare” emblazoned in the preamble of the constitution. I suggest (tongue-in-cheek) that anyone so anti-American as to reject this constitutional commitment should move elsewhere, where no such commitment exists to hinder their pursuit of individual gratification through indifference to the needs of others in our society.

    4. However, I don’t think I could have gotten plastic surgery ever, and would probably have had to wait for the other non-emergency elective surgeries you’ve listed.  Am I wrong?  Have you gotten in more quickly than the wait times you’ve listed?

      Of course, when I retired I could no longer afford Kaiser.  It would have been over $1400 a month for me, my husband, and our son.  Ah well, someday my son will grow up and leave, I’ll be eligible for Medicare, and I’ll be able to afford Kaiser again.

  8.    The ’08 Republican vice presidential nominee has come out in support of a candidate running against the Republican nominee for the U.S. House in N.Y. 23.

      Sarah Palin has endorsed Doug Hoffman, the Conservative Party candidate, running to replace Army Secretary McHugh.

      If you’re keeping score on endorsements, it’s:

    Doug Hoffman:  Dick Armey, Fred Thompson, Sarah Palin

    Dede Scozzafava:  Newt Gingrich, Daily Kos

    Bill Owens (not the one you’re thinking of):  Barack Obama

          1. The pic is from the site.  And the book will be out just in time for stocking stuffing for all our Sarah Palin fans.  I might even send Penry a copy for Christmas.

    1. Great idea, badly executed. Dialogue needs some work, esp the “Dem” character. Waaaayyy to long (spots for air are 30sec.)

      I’ll donate some money to the DSCC if they promise to bring in some real producers, writers and editors.

        1. and the fact that satire and comedy is hard in politics, they need to go the extra mile.

          Why not get a decent comedic actress to deliver the lines? Why not spend a little more time on the dialogue to emulate the Get a Mac spots?

          If they were running them now, they’d get extra eyeballs from what’s called “borrowed interest” – because Apple is got three new great spots they’re rolled out to knock down Windows 7.

          This was a great idea that’s going to fall flat because of  the poor execution.  

          1. is almost word for word the thought I had after seeing it, before I read your post.

            The purpose of an ad like this is to deliver a compelling message, one that a reasonable person would find hard not to hear and ingest. Though I agree completely with the message here, it was delivered in a way which is very easy to reject: They managed to take something substantial, and make it look insubstantial!

            I suspect that this might be the result of forgetting substance, and focusing exclusively on form, following the popular political-insider belief of the day that form is everything. It isn’t: A good message is a perfect marriage of substance and form, something that could easily have been accomplished in this add. Instead, it’s empty form, and it shows.

            If I were anything but a Democrat, already on board with the message this ad was intended to convey, it would have only served to reinforce my false belief that “they” are just as vacuous as “we” are, that political discourse is nothing more than a competition of insubstantial arbitrary beliefs, and so why should I ever bother to re-examine mine?

            The only way to move people is to create an “ah-ha!” experience. This ad completely fails to achieve that.

            1. They need to make the Repub character like the PC character in the Mac spots – a nice guy, just frustrated and helpless with the way he is. Not clueless and evil.

              The Dem character doesn’t need to be whiney – more matter of fact like the Mac character.

              DEM: “Hey, Repub, do you know that Democrats have introduced 5 different bills on healthcare? Where’s the GOP versions? We need to have a debate on this, and the voters are counting on your input.”

              GOP: “Oh, we’ve got three bills in the wings.We’re just not going to introduce them. We’ll just say no to all of your proposals, and pretend we have something.”

              DEM: But Repub, why do that? Most Americans WANT Health Care reform. The polls are pretty high in favor of it.”

              REPUB: “Yes, but that’s never stopped us before. We never listen to the voters, until it’s election time. Then we trot out some phony issue and claim you guys are responsible for it.”

              DEM: “But that didn’t work last election. Why do it now? This is important!”

              REPUB: “I think we know what we’re doing. The voters won’t remember all this next year.”

              DEM: “yeah, THAT’s going to help them out…”

              Or something like that….

  9. …Winter Park opens on November 18th, according to a teaser email I’ve just received from Intrawest.

    Since this is closer than the 6 weeks I need to recover from surgery, I’ll be delaying my joint replacement in my left foot until next year, after Winter Park closes for the season.

    Ibuprofen and socialist medicine-provided VIcodin will have to keep my arthritis at bay until Late April 2010. Now, where are my Nordy boots and K2 skis….

  10. A blogger by the name of Boris Shor has crunched some fun numbers, comparing state legislative leanings to Congressional leanings.  He used the votes of state legislators who have become Congressmen or Senators in order to match the two up.  The resulting graph is interesting.

    Chart is contained in this article…

    It’s interesting to see the differences between states like New York, where Republicans and Democrats alike lean to the left; those like Mississippi, where both lean to the right; and states like Colorado (and even more prominently California) where the Democrats are more “left” than their Congressional counterparts, and the Republicans are more “right” than theirs, indicating a radicalization at the state level.

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