Monday Open Thread

“In any profession, there’s a sleazy side and an honorable side.”

–Gina Gershon

48 Community Comments, Facebook Comments

  1. RepealAndReplace says:

    I have to question Stormy's account on one point…..

    For a man who is a fanatical germophobe, he had bareback sex with her.

  2. unnamed says:

    We got the Trumpstink from Hell

    The Trumpstink from Hell

    The Trumpstink from Hell

    The Trumpstink from Hell


    And we get upwind All the way

    We got the Trumpstink from Hell

  3. Davie says:

    Joke of the day:

    Furthermore, in Daniels, Trump seems to have met his match as an internet troll. When someone on Twitter asked Clifford, “What snack foods do you recommend for watching you on “60 Minutes” tomorrow night? Nachos and wings feel so January, you know?” Clifford responded: “Tacos and mini corndogs just seems so right … and yet, so wrong. I believe the more traditional choice is popcorn, however.”

    Yes, the subtext of that tweet is exactly what you think it is. Note to self: Never pick a fight with a porn star.

  4. Duke Cox says:

    Umm…is there anyone who reads this who believes that Donald Trump DOESN'T intend to subvert our democracy and take over the federal government?

    I just wanted to see how many politically blind people now frequent this place….

  5. Voyageur says:

    On the March for Our lives post, Negev takes about 85,000 words to argue, among other things, that French gun laws haven't stopped all gun deaths in France, therefore gun laws don't work and should never be enacted.

    The fact is in 2014, France had 2.83 deaths by gun per 100,000 residents.  America had 10.45 per 100,000.

    A French level of gun control would have saved about  24,000 lives in America last year.

    Facts is facts, Negev.

    • unnamed says:

      Facts only matter to Negev if he gets them from the National Russian Association.

    • Negev says:

        Check the facts on the legality of non citizen ownership of automatic weapons in France and let me know how well those laws worked out…

      on my way to Florida for vacation thanks to Mr Hogg’s boycott with a new lifetime membership to the NRA🤘🏿

      I think I get a flashlight or something

      • unnamed says:

        Way to "honor" the survivors of a shooting. 

      • Voyageur says:

        Negev argues that the French laws aren't 100 percent effective, ergo there should be no laws of any kind.   The fact that the U.S. Has four times as many gun deaths per capita as France is proof that he is an utter buffoon.

        Come on, Negrv, admit it.  You don't care dip squat about facts, victims, etc.  You only love guns.  I hope they bring you comfort in your old age.


        • Negev says:

          I think your reading comprehension is lacking or you are mistaking me with unnamed. Just make murder illegal and non of this would happen… oh wait…



          • unnamed says:

            I think he's got you pegged pretty well.  You are again showing that your logic is "laws don't deter 100%, so why have them?"

            BTW, waiting for my pocket knife and shiny sticker to ship to my Kremmling address.  It's a PO Box.

            • Negev says:

              No, the failure rate of laws in mass shootings is, always, 100% when it comes to the shooter. If you can’t comprehend that logic I can’t help you. Tell me which law stopped a mass shooter. Ever. It’s not a trick question so read, think, and think again before you  deflect to Russia 

              • unnamed says:

                  Maybe if the CDC was not banned from researching gun deaths for the last 20+ years we might have better information on how to combat this.  You talk about me deflecting to Russia, you deflect to equating your right to own an AR-15 to my right to free speech, even though the former is used to kill and the latter is not.

                My beef is that people like you bully and threaten anybody who does not agree with you on this issue to, or even threaten them and use EVERY excuse to not discuss how to prevent this shit from happening when it is becoming increasingly commonplace.  Even if you personally don't, you stand with those that do. And aside from platitudes about video games, parenting or making Teachers start packing heat at school. Then follow it up by "there is no way to prevent this". 

                I doubt anybody here has all the answers, but at least we talk about doing something about this.

                • mamajama55 says:

                  Insurance pros please weigh in:

                  I just got a quote for renewing my home insurance policy. They did not ask me about firearms in the home. As far as I can recall, no insurance company has ever asked me about guns in the home. Even when I had one, or when I lived with a gun nut.

                  They ask about dogs, home businesses, woodstoves, furnaces, and lead paint, but never about guns.

                  Yet from reviewing all those homicide stats, most firearm deaths happen in the home, with a handgun, and killer and victim know each other. In 2016, 132 of the 189 homicides in Colorado were with a firearm, and 105 of all the homicides were in the home.

                  So why don't insurance companies ask about this? Is it just that my insurance company doesn't ask me, or is it some industry wide "guideline" rewarding intensive lobbying by the NRA, NAGR, GOA, etc?

                  If this changed, i.e. if insurance companies started charging higher rates for "home defense" firearms (not stored in a safe), wouldn't this pressure the gun industry?  And for sure, some children's lives would be saved. >1300 deaths, ~6,000 kids injured from accidental gun discharges in the US, per Pediatrics Journal study cited by CNN.

                  • unnamed says:

                    My wife and I are about to close on a house.  When we called to set up our Homeowners' Insurance, they did not ask about firearms. They asked about pets, but not firearms.

                  • RepealAndReplace says:

                    Think of it as a variation on "Don't Ask/Don't Tell."

                  • MADCO says:

                    Because they do not sure the outcome of that firearm.
                    If it sstolen you could claim it and get resale value , less deductible.  But if you shoot your dog, or your furnace or your woodburning stove , your lead paint, they aren't going to pay.

                    • Diogenesdemar says:

                      Homeowner’s/renter’s coverage is the Republican Party of insurance . . . 

                      . . . it’s very much concerned over property and possessions, but doesn’t give a rip about lives.

              • Voyageur says:

                That is an extraordinarily stupid thing to say, Negev.  By your logic, flu shots fail because they only stop most cases.  Mass shootings are common here in NRA land.  They are quite rare in France where it is hard to get the weapon.   And you want me to identify the shooting that didn't occur?  

                Truly, utterly, stupid.  We can certainly identify lots of shootings that did occurr because your whack job ideas gave sickos super weapons.   So, identify the millions of people who didn't get poliobecause they took their vaccines.

                Dumb. As. Dog. Droppings.

          • DaftPunk says:

            I was in college during the Reagan administration's war on drugs.  Anyone who tried to score a bag of weed during that time can tell you the fallacy of pretending law enforcement has no effect on the price or supply of contraband. Of course, because I did manage to get high on campus from time to time, laws are worthless.

      • Diogenesdemar says:

        You should maybe also check out their newest, “lifetime cut short,” membership? . . .

    • Good to be able to skip over long stretches of blogging desert in this thread.

  6. MichaelBowman says:

    Sen. Mitch McConnell Pushes Bill To Legalize Hemp

    "Industrial hemp holds great potential to bolster the agricultural economy of the United States" 


    • Voyageur says:

      Praise the Lord and pass the Pabst Blue Ribbon.

      • MichaelBowman says:

        I think you mean 'pass this', V! 

      • MichaelBowman says:

        McConnell's bill will be a companion to H.R. 3530 introduced in July 2017. That bill has 43 co-sponsors; five of our seven Congressional delegation are already signed on.  Absent: Lamborn and Buck.  

        Colorado is the largest hemp-producing state in the nation, outpacing Kentucky by almost a 3:1 margin.  

        • mamajama55 says:

          Congratulations, Michael. I'm sure your advocacy work behind the scenes helped push this forward.

          • MichaelBowman says:

            We wouldn't be where we are today without the support of Jared and his belief in the future of this industry.  He introduced the language in the House in June 2013 for what later became known as Section 7606 of the 2014 Farm Bill (and then we had a little fun flying a hemp flag over the Capitol the following week on July 4). Followed then by Senator Bennet's leadership in preserving the language in the conference report in December. 

            The industry built itself over the past four years on the foundation created by 7606.  Sans Lamborn, we've also had the support of our entire delegation for the Industrial Hemp Farming Acts in the 113th and 114th; both Bennet (sorry Zap) and Cory have been champions in the Senate.  


          • Duke Cox says:

            In some circles, our friend Michael is dubbed, "Mr. Hemp" for his leadership on the issue. Michael is the kind of man who should be leading our government.

            Should he ever submit to the enormous pressure he is under to run for governor (from numerous Polsters certainly), I will work day and night to make that so.

            I occasionally like to embarrass Michael by bragging on him. But, damn it, Michael….you would be so good at it

            Michael Bowman for Governor!!

            There…I said it again.😁


            • mamajama55 says:

              yes😉I've been one of those Polsters encouraging Michael to run for….something. Sonnenberg, for example, badly needs a credible challenger.

              On the other hand, Bowman is doing enormous good and making positive change in the world already –  advocating for the  hemp industry, soil renewal, and renewable energy. Only he can decide which path is best.

              Keep on keeping on, my friend!

              • MichaelBowman says:

                Thx Mama and Duke.  I do love the public policy space.  Sound public policy is important.  Colorado is a great place to initiate progressive policies that move the national discussion. We did it in the renewable energy space in 2004 with Amendment 37, and again in 2012 with Amendment 64.  Goddess knows we have a long way yet to go.  

                All that work ( by a lot of people) brought us to today, where leading candidates for governor can plausibly promote 100% renewable energy and ending Prohibition.  Fifteen years ago either of those platforms would have been political suicide.  We'll see what the future holds, and in the meantime, we have a great candidate in Bethlene for our House District, CD-4 is looking strong.  I'm supporting Jared in the Governor's race and I adore Carrie.

                SD-1 is challenging and after 20+ years of being waterboarded by Fox News the district has a generational challenge.  It's not the SD-1 I grew up in, no longer the land of titans like Bud Moellenberg or Bev Bledsoe.  It's sad in a lot of ways, the district is drowning in natural resources.  But, converting those to jobs and opportunity require good public policy.  Unfortunately they've been conditioned to the 'dog whistle' around 'policy'.  I hope I'm around long enough to see a fundamental shift in thinking.  That will have to come from the dwindling numbers of young who remain in our small communities; they are the keys to a different future in rural Colorado. 

              • MichaelBowman says:

                Last night's episode of Bull took on the issue CBD oil as medicine.  All-in-all the writers did a great job of portraying the mind-numbing stupidity of cannabis sativa on Schedule 1 of the Controlled Substances Act.  

                • Diogenesdemar says:


                  On the topic of CBD, I went this past weekend to the Denver March Indian PowWow at the Denver Colosseum.  I was a bit surprised to see one of the vendor booths there selling (purported) CBD products — oils, ointments, lotions, balms, etc.


        • notaskinnycook says:

          This turned up in this morning's Post:

          A champion for their cause:Terrell Davis promotes minority advancement in cannabis industry

          I'd post the link, but I swear, when I went to the e-paper to get it, I couldn't get it to come up. I even went out to the Web for it; nothin’.

  7. Diogenesdemar says:

    What would be ROFL funny, until you think about it: . . . 

    . . . The same art-of-the-deal stable genius who apparently didn’t consider that his laughable non-disclosure agreements are by themselves unimpeachable evidence that the activities he wanted to hide actually occurred . . . 

    . . . is the same very-good-brain in charge of deciding and negotiating American foreign, economic, and military policy?? 

  8. RepealAndReplace says:

    Where is Moderatus this aafternoon?

    I wanted to hear his take on the 60 Minutes segment last night. 


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