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October 21, 2009 03:21 PM UTC

Wednesday Open Thread

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“Among all the world’s races, some obscure Bedouin tribes possibly apart, Americans are the most prone to misinformation. This is not the consequence of any special preference for mendacity, although at the higher levels of their public administration that tendency is impressive. It is rather that so much of what they themselves believe is wrong.”

–John Kenneth Galbraith

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        1. While looking for another quote of his I found this one:

          I cannot help fearing that men may reach a point where they look on every new theory as a danger, every innovation as a toilsome trouble, every social advance as a first step toward revolution, and that they may absolutely refuse to move at all.

          The man was surely ahead of his time in observing how Americans and America would evolve.

          1. Considering the dynamic nature of the French government, it’s no wonder de Tocqueville felt that way. Our two countries are kind of like the tortoise and the hare when it comes to change through advancing political systems.

            Of course, there’s a trade-off between fluidity and stability, but I think that de Tocqueville would be pleased with how this country has progressed–socially, if not politically. He’d certianly be shocked and amazed that Barack Obama was elected President, but he’d still probably say we’re under the thumb of “soft despotism”.

            1. And just because I’m procrastinating doing other research, here’s some other ditties he came up with:

              The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public’s money.

              The health of a democratic society may be measured by the quality of functions performed by private citizens.

              There are two things which a democratic people will always find very difficult – to begin a war and to end it.

               

  1. LONDON, Oct 20 (Reuters) – The chief executive of U.S. oil major ConocoPhillips (COP.N) said he expected it will be hard for crude supply to meet demand in the years ahead, with output possibly peaking below 100 million barrels per day. “It’s going to be very difficult to get up towards 100 million barrels,” Jim Mulva told reporters at the sidelines of the Oil and Money conference in London.  

    1. The parent company also owns a lot of those Texas wind farms, too.

      And then, of course, came the letters to the editor about how the economics of alternative energy don’t work out.  Of course, said conservatives never include the relatively hidden costs of oil, political disruption, health issues, etc.

      “Holy shit, Mabel!  There’s no more oil in this hole.  Maybe we should put up a windmill now.”  Too late.

      1. The hidden costs of the use of fossil fuels costs the US much in excess of $120,000,000,000 per year. (Here’s the press release from the National Academy of Sciences. The actual 466 page report can be purchased here.)

        Requested by Congress, the report assesses what economists call external effects caused by various energy sources over their entire life cycle — for example, not only the pollution generated when gasoline is used to run a car but also the pollution created by extracting and refining oil and transporting fuel to gas stations.  Because these effects are not reflected in energy prices, government, businesses and consumers may not realize the full impact of their choices.  When such market failures occur, a case can be made for government interventions — such as regulations, taxes or tradable permits — to address these external costs, the report says. [emaphases added]

        What is most amazing is the number of obvious costs NOT included in this analysis.

        The figure does not include damages from climate change, harm to ecosystems, effects of some air pollutants such as mercury, and risks to national security, which the report examines but does not monetize.

        We need to start requiring these costs to be included in proposals for new power plants, especially coal fired plants. Then we might be able to make an informed decision about what is in our best interests.  

        1. Though there are several varieties of aerosols, previous research has shown that two types — sulfates and black carbon — play an especially critical role in regulating climate change. Both are products of human activity.

          Sulfates, which come primarily from the burning of coal and oil, scatter incoming solar radiation and have a net cooling effect on climate. Over the past three decades, the United States and European countries have passed a series of laws that have reduced sulfate emissions by 50 percent. While improving air quality and aiding public health, the result has been less atmospheric cooling from sulfates.

          – NASA

        2. I can’t cite this, but that’s the figure I’ve heard bandied about for costs of using the military to keep the oil moving, health issues from the production and pollution of, and more.

          The US military alone is using, or at least was, about 1% of the world’s oil just for the ME wars!  Now due to that ole free market supply and demand, that jacks up the price of oil, too. And that doesn’t include the oil the rest of our military consumes, nor the rest of the world’s military forces.  

          1. …on the front lines of The Suck.  From Military.com, so Libertad’s head can explode…

            http://www.military.com/cs/Sat

            That’s the full end-user cost, including such things as Infantry Battalions to guard the supply route. This is also why former Senators Gary Hart AND John Warner are talking about the implications of green energy and how it relates to National Security.

    1. .

      In the future, if traveling in a group, one person in that group should be selected to personally check in with the at-risk person before leaving the hotel.  

      Before every deployment downrange, particularly into austere environments, I made sure I had someone trained on how to treat me for anaphylactic shock (I carried what was euphemistically called a “bee sting kit”) in case I had an encounter with a pit viper, an especial vulnerability of mine.  We would even go over how to perform a field-expedient advanced cricoidotomy.  

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  2. – Focus chips in $98k to help overturn Maine’s gay marriage law  –

    As of Sept. 30, Focus had donated $98,500 to Stand for Marriage Maine, a coalition supporting an initiative on the Nov. 3 ballot to overturn the state Legislature’s legalization of gay marriage. Efforts began in May to collect signatures to get the measure on the ballot.

    http://www.gazette.com/article

    In other news – No on 1  Protect Maine Equality hits the national news on Maddow.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26

    1. And 86-year-old D-Day veteran, and Maine voter talking about this proposed legislation:

      The woman at my polling place asked me do I believe in equality for gay and lesbian people. I was pretty surprised to be asked a question like that. It made no sense to me. Finally I asked her: what do you think I fought for in Omaha Beach?

      One commenter put it best: “I guess you never stop being a hero.”

      1. He may have had difficulty reading what he wrote but what he wrote was pure eloquence. Talk about summing up the entire issue in less than 3 minutes. That guy could give a lesson to the vast majority of folks running for office today. Sometimes saying a whole lot less really is more.

        Maine is a better state for having the honor of him living there.  

          1. John Hinkley used to call CO home, Richard Reid now does, and Gunny Bob is in the house.

            How about Dealin’ Doug ?  Are we not a better state for his presence ?

            1. but PM didn’t seem all that “worried.” But I do confess that I continue to marvel at how you seek out and find any comment that remotely has anything to do with you. Hope you’re putting that much effort and into your campaign.  

              1. who received a fair amount of shit from Steve Harvey, these posts look pretty ridiculous.

                Leave the fucking guy alone, for fuck’s sake. What is with this fucking hostility, that even people like Jared Polis, Mike Coffman, and Ali Hasan wouldn’t ever get here?

                It’s honestly embarrassing. Agree with him or disagree with him, support him or support his opponent, I don’t care. But at least have a fucking reason for doing whatever you’re doing.

                If the worst thing you can say about him is that he talks too much, don’t you feel a little stupid complaining about that when he’s posted almost nothing here for the past few months?  

    1. He better hope he has good comprehensive health insurance. My agent just sent out a letter informing me that “crazy fatigue” is considered a pre-existing condition.

      Rocky Mtn Health Plans is looking through all media accounts of tea parties and other protests. If they can document that you attended one of these, then they are dropping you from their programs. (Also, if you were overweight as a baby, you have been dropped.)

      [This fake (and probably false) quote brought to you as a free service of Externalize Costs Uber Alles, Inc.]

      [[As you may have guessed, ECUA, Inc. is also a fake organization. We have found that lobbying costs are much lower for fake industry trade groups.]]

      [[[Does anybody have contact information for Kathy Hall? We understand that she is available. What could be better face for a fake organization than a lobbyist with a mouthful of fracking fluid?]]]

  3. Note to self – next time you decide to have a no-charisma candidate try to do a photo op in front of your opposition’s campaign office, don’t be shocked that they might have signs in said office.

      1. He’s more conservative than the hapless Republican – in fact, the Democrats offered Scozzafava the endorsement before turning to Owens.

        This seat will be a pickup for the Democrats, albeit one with a lot of Blue Dog bark.

    1. The photo sums it up pretty nicely.

      She also lost a game of chicken with a Weekly Standard reporter who she accused of yelling at her and being generally unpleasant during after a public meeting she held.  Turns out he recorded the event…  funny, no yelling or being unpleasant.  Don’t pick fights with someone who uses ink by the barrel, Dede.

      1. Dede called the cops on the reporter after, she claimed, he questioned her too aggressively.

        Lowville Village Police Chief Eric Fredenburg said officers responded to a call Monday night saying state Assemblywoman Dierdre Scozzafava “felt concern for her safety” during questioning by reporter John McCormack of The Weekly Standard. He wouldn’t say who made the call.

        “I don’t believe it ever escalated to anything that would ever be classified as an emergency,” Fredenburg said.

        … In the audio recording of the reporter’s questioning played for The Associated Press by McCormack, the reporter didn’t raise his voice, but repeated his unanswered questions several times, including one about abortion.

        “I never screamed, I never yelled, I never shouted,” he said. “My voice was only loud enough so she could hear my questions.”

        In a statement released Tuesday to the blog Politico, Scozzafava’s campaign said the reporter “repeatedly screamed questions (in-your-face-style),” but later issued a statement deleting the accusation.

        … Hoffman said McCormack has interviewed him and “he doesn’t seem to be someone you would have to call the cops on.”

        http://www.syracuse.com/news/i

    1. …I made the journey to Vegas for the National Association of Broadcasters convention every year for  14 years before I broke up that abusive relationship. (In case you’re wondering LB & ‘tad, it was to receive our yearly marching orders from George Soros.)

      What’s worse than going to these whorehouses as an attendee? Having to work the floor as a demo artist. I STILL have nightmares that I’m chained to the Adobe booth, reciting my schtick – “Welcome! Can I show Adobe After Effects, the premiere compositing and motion graphics software in the…..”

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