Tuesday Open Thread

“There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”

–Isaac Asimov

39 Community Comments, Facebook Comments

  1. Pseudonymous says:

    South: Hey!  We want to own black people.
    North: No.
    South: Let's compromise.  We'll let them go when they're 40.

    When you put faith in the so-called "responsible people" around Trump, you empower them.  There are no responsible people around him.

    John Kelly says US Civil War was prompted by inability to compromise

    • ParkHill says:

      Ta-Nahisi Coates points out that 3/5 of a man was a compromise.

      There was also the Missouri compromise, called, wait-for-it, "The Missouri Compromise"

    • ParkHill says:

      WOTD "Total Quality Trumpism".

      Why is John Kelly talking about Robert E. Lee? Let alone praising him or attacking him, why is Lee even a topic of discussion? Kelly is an Irish Catholic from Boston born in 1950. He is not someone born in the Deep South who was reared in the Lee cult and coming to grips with that legacy or unable to shake it fully. Why is this even something we’re talking about?

      Kelly did another notable thing. He pledged he would “never” apologize for his comments about Rep. Frederica Wilson (D-FL). This is despite the fact that it has been repeatedly and clearly shown that his central claim about her was false. We can give him the benefit of the doubt and assume his memory was faulty on the first take. I think we should. But sticking to the claim in the face of clear and irrefutable evidence makes it a clear lie on the second and third and every subsequent take.

    • JohnInDenver says:

      I read someone else recommending the difficult decision on compromising on slavery — would slaves only be slaves 3 days a week, or 4.

      Apparently, the gap was too great, and potential compromises were never achieved.

      • MichaelBowman says:

        There's a meme I can't find right now that describes the 1.6% of the southern population, plantation owners, convincing the other 98.4% of their compatriots to go to war to preserve their way of life. 

        The more things change…


  2. Zappatero says:

    That quote is the best description I’ve seen of our current political climate. DONT ENCOURAGE THE IGNINT. DONT BE BIPARTISAN WITH THE STOOPID. 

  3. Zappatero says:

    37,000 Russian Bots on Twitter. 

    80,000 Facebook posts. 

    130,000,000 Americans saw some form of Russian propaganda.

    How many comments at CPols intended to distract and divide? AC?


    • Andrew Carnegie says:


      Happy Halloween.

      Are you still trying to figure out why Hillary lost?

      She sucked, nothing more.


      • RepealAndReplace says:

        Oh, look…..Andy is back!

        Just in time for the Mueller indictments and Tancredo gubernatorial announcement.

        We haven't seen you in months. You left poor Moderatus here alone to defend the #MAGA Movement.

      • Duke Cox says:

        Wrong, fuckface…your side cheated. I'm surprised that you would show up here, comrade. Your game has been exposed for all to see. 

        Nice thing about American democracy, though. Even Russian operatives are allowed to speak their lies. Luckily…you aren't going to get away with it.

        Thing is, PissAnt…if you are a Russian, you are our enemy. If you are an American, you are a traitor. Either way, you are a piece of shit. You are not even funny any more….just contemptible…and worthy of a prison sentence.

      • Voyageur says:

        You ain't been missed, Himmler-Breath.

        • MichaelBowman says:

          I'm not so sure about that, V.  Every community needs a functioning, useful idiot and Fluffnutz still hasn't proven he's up to that one (what should be for him easily achieved) task.  The Librarian is a stark reminder of the vile demographic Drumpf gives a woody to each and every day.  

          Countdown to the return of PP?

      • JohnInDenver says:

        Pure coincidence that there was organized purchase of social media advertising and a coordinated campaign of social media messaging … sponsored by another country.

        I hear foreigners making campaign contributions is illegal. Maybe, just maybe, foreign paid "in-kind" contributions of social media influence ought to be made illegal, too.

      • Davie says:

        Hey Gerbils!  Welcome back!  Guess your other gig hosting Hitler revivals didn't quite work out. 

        So what are your plans after Trump tosses the last shovel full of dirt on the grave of the Republican Party?

  4. ParkHill says:

    Can you die of Schadenfreude?

    Great twitter rant from Seth Abramson.

    Seth Abramson‏Verified account @SethAbramson  7h7 hours ago

    NOTHING can change this fact—MINUTES after Trump "discovered" a Kremlin agent on his NatSec team he ordered a pro-Putin GOP platform change.

  5. Pseudonymous says:

    OK, now we can officially call it a party.  From the folks who used to be the Statesman, who now hold the domain Pols wishes they had purchased years ago.

    Republican Tom Tancredo set to launch campaign for governor of Colorado

  6. Zappatero says:

    Dems should start using Democratic rhetoric, quit using Republican rhetoric, quit fearing the Right Wing Smear/Lie Machine.

    Nothing that Bernie says should be considered wild, reckless, or something that cannot be repeated by any Democrat – local or national.



    • Conserv. Head Banger says:

      You mean like "free stuff for everybody" without a care as to who will pay for it all?

      • Voyageur says:

        The rich will pay, silly boy!

      • mamajama55 says:

        You're so well informed, CHB. I'm sure you've made an exhaustive survey of Sanders' speeches, and can find where he was promoting "Free stuff for everybody without a care as to who will pay for it all".

        A mere supporter and humble researcher and writer, such as myself, can't find where Bernie ever said that, but I'm sure that you know what you're talking about.

        His health care proposal is paid for by payroll and corporate taxes. Since consumers don't pay copays or health insurance premiums, they save money. I already know that you won't bother to actually read the link I posted (Vger likes to brag that he never clicks a link I post), so perhaps you can share where you're getting your information. 

        • Voyageur says:

          I have never made such a stupid claim, though I don't always make it through all of your more meandering posts.  You do have to learn the difference between citing a partisan site and finding neutral sources that analyze such claims.

          • mamajama55 says:

            I'm not going to waste my time dredging up all of the insults and put downs you've posted, about me or others. Suffice it to say that your habit of posting pot-shots, not positions, has not gone unnoticed or unremembered.

            When you actually deign to post a link to a source – any source– other than your own opinions, I might take your condescending idea that I should find more "neutral sources" a bit more seriously.

            • Voyageur says:

              Well, if you don't mind wasting the time to find a post where I brag I never read your links, you won't be embarrassed by me calling you a person who makes stuff up..  Or were you just hitting the cooking sherry and feeling sorry for yourself again?  Because we both know I never said that.

  7. MichaelBowman says:

    Drumpf found his phone.  General Kelly thwarted once again. 

    To quote our resurrected troll, "oops".  Welcome back.  That wire from Manafort's Cyprus account show up just in time? 

    The man with the greatest brain (and memory) we've ever known? He addresses Papadopoulos by his first name and as a "low level volunteer." Wasn't he a foreign policy advisor? They accept volunteer foreign policy advisors?


  8. MichaelBowman says:

    'I want to quit': Fox News employees say their network's Russia coverage was 'an embarrassment'

    "It is another blow to journalists at Fox who come in every day wanting to cover the news in a fair and objective way," one senior Fox News employee told CNN of their outlet's coverage, adding that there were "many eye rolls" in the newsroom over how the news was covered. 

    The person said, "Fox feels like an extension of the Trump White House."


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