Thursday Open Thread

“Justice is not to be taken by storm. She is to be wooed by slow advances.”

–Benjamin Cardozo

26 Community Comments, Facebook Comments

  1. PseudonymousPseudonymous says:

    Ruh-roh.  The crazy train’s coming off the tracks.

    A Cub Scout questioned a Colorado state senator at a meeting. Now he’s been kicked out of his den.

    Eleven-year-old Ames Mayfield, a fifth-grader at Prospect Ridge Academy and a Scout for five years, on Oct. 9 asked Sen. Vicki Marble, R-Fort Collins, questions about gun control, and about comments Marble made at a 2013 legislative hearing on poverty about mortality rates among African-Americans.

    The boy’s mother, Lori Mayfield, on Wednesday said Ames was kicked out of his den, or Scout group, as a result.

    • taterheaptom says:

      Look, if he wanted to carry a semi-automatic long gun with a bump stock and large capacity mag then that would have been 100% his God-given Inalienish RIGHT to stop any tyranny that might erupt at said meeting, or on the way there or back, or while in his "castle" (really some pillows from the couch and a blanket…) 

      But asking an articulate question of an elected leader and being engaged at a young age in civics with a curious mind – embracing a right to expression and using critical thinking?  OUTRAGEOUS PROG-LIB CONSPIRACY to make that crazy woman talking about rape to Cub Scouts look bad! 

  2. mamajama55mamajama55 says:

    Cory Gardner has new, inconvenient, time(s) to tell him how you feel about Trump's "tax reform" giveaway to the top 1% and Trump's slashing Obamacare CSRs, raising CO insurance rates by 34%.

    You can call in to Gardner's telephone town hall this morning at 9:15 am or 10 am – his website has posted both times, but his twitter and instagram accounts both now say 10 am . Text SENGARDNER to 828282 to sign up.

    I swear the website said 9:15 am last night when I signed  up. I'd sign on at 9:15 and see what happens. This is either deliberate miscommunication or a screwup.

    Gardner also has a fancy new website with a web form to fill out to tell him how you feel about "fixing our tax code and growing wages".  This was featured on Fox yesterday.


    Here’s a link to the screenshot of the 9:15, which one sees if one clicks the sign-up link on the twitter page:

  3. DavidThi808DavidThi808 says:

    If Amazon picks Denver for HQ2, it will turn Colorado blue. What's funny about this is the majority of the business people working to get them here are almost certainly Republicans.

  4. ParkHill says:

    WOTD from Maha Blog "Democratic Party expands Super delegates by adding lobbyists"

    Apologists for the Democratic Party tell me that progressives are purists who are going to destroy the Democratic Party with their narrow minded litmus tests and intolerance for other views. I keep saying I don’t care about purity; I just want the party leaders to get their heads out of their asses. This tells me they haven’t.

    • FrankUnderwood says:

      I thought this was a joke.  frown

    • There are, apparently, all kinds of rumors wandering around about the at-large delegate selection process.

      Chris Reeves over at DailyKos is a DNC member, and wrote today about another article at BuzzFeed mischaracterizing discussions surrounding at-large delegates.

      I'd hold fire and perhaps reach out to one or more of your DNC delegates to find out what might really be going on and express your desires in an intelligent and reasoned manner.

      • mamajama55mamajama55 says:

        No joke, Frankly. But nothing new either. Lobbyists have been superdelegates since Debbie Wasserman Schultz got her claws into DNC leadership; she quietly repealed Obama-era rules prohibiting dark money donations at the same time.

        Quite a few of HRC's superdelegates were, in fact, lobbyists, as the Intercept reported in 2016.

        Christine Pelosi, quoted in the Bloomberg piece, is correct – all delegates should be elected and accountable to state voters:

        Pelosi, whose mother is House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi, has opposed for two decades the inclusion of at-large members in the DNC because she believes that all of the national committee’s members should be elected to their seats and represent a specific state, region or constituency.

        So I'm not going to "hold my fire", Phoenix – I'll just continue my slow burn at the corporate-friendly, anti-democratic policies of the Democratic National Committee.

  5. DavieDavie says:

    Shhhh!  Keep this under your hat:  Guns kill people!

    States with weaker concealed carry laws are associated with significantly higher rates of handgun homicide, according to a study published in the American Journal of Public Health on Thursday.

    Researchers from the Boston University School of Public Health compared homicide rates from 1991 to 2015 in states where law enforcement has wide discretion to reject concealed carry permits, which they call “may-issue” states, with those of states in which permits must be issued if an individual meets the necessary criteria, referred to as “shall-issue” or “right-to-carry” states.

    They found that shall-issue states were associated with 8.6 percent higher firearm homicide rates and 10.6 percent higher handgun homicide rates. The study suggests that allowing law enforcement the discretion to reject applicants may save lives.


  6. mamajama55mamajama55 says:

    Maddow connects the dots in Niger.


    Dot #1 Chad has been protecting American interests by fighting Boko Haram insurgents in neighboring Niger, and along the border.

    Dot #2 Donald Trump inexplicably imposed a travel ban on immigrants from Chad. The State Department, gutted under Tillerson's leadership, did not oppose this move.

    Dot #3 The leadership of Chad took offense. They removed all of their fighters from Niger, and from engaging Boko Haram terrorists.

    Dot #4 Almost immediately, four American Green Beret soldiers were attacked by ISIS / AQIM affiliated fighters. . Outnumbered, on a routine mission, the American soldiers died on October 4.  McCain and the Pentagon are investigating.

    Dot #5 Donald Trump stayed silent on the deaths of the 4 Americans for almost 2 weeks, as he was silent and not reaching out to families of other war dead.  When he did call the families of the dead soldiers, he was crass and callous.  Far from consoling their loss, the President's call deepened their pain.

    So a stupid knee-jerk racist travel ban against citizens of an allied country results in four American dead, and our national embarrassment of a President lying about it.

    Benghazi, anyone?

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