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We Don't Change Our Underwear This Much

by: Colorado Pols

Tue Apr 13, 2010 at 13:03:53 PM MDT


As The Colorado Statesman reports, Democrat Andrew Romanoff has hired a new spokesperson for his campaign.

Democratic Senate candidate Andrew Romanoff on Monday hired a new campaign spokesman, Indiana-based political consultant Roy Teicher. Teicher replaces Dean Toda, who joined the campaign at the end of January.

Teicher, a principle in the consulting firm Rorapaugh-Teicher LLC, has been a spokesman for Senante candidates and has a background in small Midwestern newspapers. His firm specializes in first-time candidates, according to its Web site. The site says Teicher's firm can help candidates answer the questions "Why are you running?" and "How do you plan to win?"[Pols emphasis]...

...Teicher is the fourth spokesman Romanoff has had in seven months since entering the race last September.[Pols emphasis] Initial spokeswoman Joelle Martinez was replaced after les than two months by former Colorado Springs Gazette and Colorado Statesman reporter John Schroyer, who was replaced roughly two months later by Toda.

Teicher said the change was "simply a matter of Dean pursuing other opportunities and appears to have been an amicable parting of the ways, and we wish him well."

Toda could not be reached for comment.

There's no way to spin this, Romanoff folks, as anything other than bad news. Either Toda left because he didn't like the direction/management of the campaign, or Romanoff just isn't very good at hiring people for top staff positions (but at least he's consistent -- replacements seem to be made every two months). Or...or...maybe this is part of Romanoff's "job growth" plan; if elected, he'll hire lots of people for just a few months at a time.

Either way, this looks bad.
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We Don't Change Our Underwear This Much | 55 comments
Go ahead, Pols.
Make as much of this as you can. I know you don't get too many chances nowadays. :-)

"A popular government without popular information, or the means of acquiring it, is but a Prologue to a Farce or a Tragedy, or, perhaps, both."  James Madison
I'm far from a Romanoff supporter, but . . .
I think it's possible that Toda's departure was for a position he wanted more.  Of course it's possible that he didn't like the direction or progress of the campaign, but I think it's a bit conclusory to say that Toda's leaving is necessarily bad news.

That said, it is of course possible--perhaps he saw the quarterly fundraising numbers and decided to jump ship.  

Discipline without purpose is tyranny.

So, if you're headed for greener pastures...
what does that say about the pasture you're in?
Not so green?

bin Laden is dead
GM is alive
[ Parent ]
There's 1.4 million reasons
they needed a change.

Colorado, one of the lowest taxed states in one of the lowest taxed nations in the developed world.
[ Parent ]
While that could certainly be true,
it just seems a bit conclusory to me to say Toda's leaving is as negative as the original post implies (at least that is how it comes across to me).  

I am still waiting to hear why AR is running--to date, I've not heard a compelling reason.  

Discipline without purpose is tyranny.

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ding ding ding

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You have to consider the total overall context
Four spokespeople in eight months -- that's a lot.  
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Oh, can't argue that!
Four spokespeople in eight months does strike me as a lot, although I think a slightly closer look at why is in order.  While I mean no offense, it seems to me that Joelle left to have twins (crediting Roguestaffer's suggestion), that Mr. Schroyer was replaced for being out of his league, and thus there have been two successors--Toda and now Teicher.  

Of course, even the best reading of the events suggests that AR doesn't exactly know how to pick the best person for the job for the long haul.  Alternatively, he simply couldn't afford the type of talent he needs, which also calls into question why he's running and why he thinks he can win.  

Discipline without purpose is tyranny.

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One small note...
I believe Joelle left the campaign because she was ready to have twins, not because of any creative differences.

Currently working for no campaign or candidate.
That is a small note
I'll make it bigger:

roguestaffer believes Joelle left the campaign because she was ready to have twins, not because of any creative differences.

This blog is your blog, this blog is my blog

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Once an editor, always an editor;-)
Teicher, a principle in the consulting firm Rorapaugh-Teicher LLC,

  Clearly, the story should have said Teicher was a PRINCIPAL at the consulting firm.  It is well established that political consulting firms don't have PRINCIPLES.
Principle vs. principal
I'm with you: I hate it when people make that mistake. The Colorado Statesman should know better.

"Why not do the right thing for the American people, even though it's not exactly what we want." - Speaker Boehner
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The Colorado Statesman should know better
We do! Apologies for the mistakes in our initial post, we were dealing with a sudden power outage and got distracted. And thanks for pointing out the typos, they've been corrected. There's also an update with an explanation, of sorts, from Dean Toda about why he left the campaign.

The Colorado Statesman

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Using the link the article still says Toda could not be reached for comment.
And the update is??
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Yeah, I didn't see an update either.
Looked like the exact same article to me.

"I wouldn't characterize caloric intake as "professional development." c rork
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Says parting was "somewhat" amicable
and was due to several disagreements. He didn't leave for another job.

Toda, reached for comment at his home in Colorado Springs, told The Statesman that his departure from the campaign was because of several disagreements, which he declined to elaborate about for the record. However, he did say it was "somewhat" amicable on both sides.

Toda, a former Colorado Springs Gazette and New York Times editor, said serving as a campaign spokesman allowed him to see sausage being made from the inside. "And being an advocate was a change of mindset," Toda said.

"It was fun. Mostly," he added. "The hours were brutal."

As for what's in his future, Toda says he has some possibilities. He's most likely going to move full-time to Denver.


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Ah, thank you much.
Wow. His comment sort of kills the meme that the AR campaign is floating here, doesn't it?  

"I wouldn't characterize caloric intake as "professional development." c rork
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P.S., POLS
   Since you brought up the subject, you really ought to consider changing your underwear more often.  Dead governors are presumed to give off a certain musty smell, but the neighbors are starting to complain...
;-)
ROTFLMAO


No trees were destroyed in the posting of this comment. But a large number of electrons were horribly inconvenienced.
[ Parent ]
Yes, there's that smell again.
And Pols, you say "there's no way to spin this" but your entire write-up is spin.  I'd suggest that Pols should try to be less transparent, but it really doesn't matter.
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That's not what we said
We said there is no way to spin this positively. There is no way that you can say four spokespeople in eight months is a good thing.
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I must be dense
Cause I don't get the dead guvs joke.  I wish I did because I enjoy a good laugh.

I wish I could ROTFLMAO too. :(

Gotta Find a Better Sig Line. Any suggestions? :)

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don't get the dead guvs joke
Not dense, just not someone who followed the site years ago. The original site owners went by the nickname "The Dead Guvs," and posted under the names of the three Colorado governors who held office in a single day near the turn of the last century.

A leader on the battlefield can be a leader in Congress. -- redstateblues
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Ooh, I see.
That was before my time. Sheesers. Been following (not writing) for years and had no clue on that one.

Thanks for clearing that up!

Gotta Find a Better Sig Line. Any suggestions? :)

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I understood what you said.
You brought up the concept of spin in the initial write-up.  I'm not attempting to spin anything.  

Move along folks, no spin here. . .  

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And, Colorado Pols has never missed a chance
Colorado Pols has never missed a chance to spin negatively anything Romanoff...
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It's not like they've had to work all that hard.

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The site says Teicher's firm can help candidates answer the questions "Why are you running?" and "How do you plan to win?"[
8 months late and a few million dollars short.

A woman's health decisions are a private matter between her priest and her husband.
"Who am I? Why am I here?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

Romanoff is approaching Admiral Stockdale status. Hang 'em up, buddy.

"Why not do the right thing for the American people, even though it's not exactly what we want." - Speaker Boehner

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Inside Baseball
Yes this probably does portend some issues with the romanoff campaign - but as I asked in an earlier thread, how much does a senate candidate need to raise to be healthy as a rule of thumb? - and somebody mentioned it would take about two million.

Having said that, I am cuious about how much COH he has.

So for me the changing of staff is still inside baseball (it is important) but only we care.  I still think there is plenty of support out there for both candidates.

Gotta Find a Better Sig Line. Any suggestions? :)

"Why are you running?" and "How do you plan to win?"
At least this shows that the Romanoff folks know they have not yet adequately answered those questions and need to come up with answers better than I should have been appointed in the first place and who needs big money to win when you have more core love than the other Dem, though he has enough for a respectable showing and has all the money?

Of course Romanoff supporters will point to the County Assemblies and say that Bennet didn't win a better position even after all those TV ads.  Therefore money is over-rated.  But caucus goers are the people who pay attention and aren't so dependent on TV ads to clue them in on candidates.

The money and ads will matter much more in the primary and then even more in the general. You can be sure Romanoff knows this if his caucus supporters don't. Yep, a better why and how certainly should be the order of the day.  

On the off chance they win the primary, they'll then need some good spin for the inevitable turn-around they'll have to execute on funding purity. Who will they hire for that?

Bennet's first ad
Ran the day after the caucus.  
[ Parent ]
But before the assemblies
which I was including in the caucus process and I'm already hearing Romanoff supporters bragging about how all that money he spent didn't improve his position at the assemblies which are attended by the delegates elected at caucus.  But those are high information, core, attention paying Dems, not likely to be swayed by a few weeks of ads.

In fact, I'd guess some were more likely to be willing to listen to Romanoff camp spin about the big money vs the grass roots because of those ads.  Wait until the primaries to see what money will do with people, many of whom are barely aware of the State legislature and Andrew Romanoff.

[ Parent ]
...and bennet's staff turnover?
Where did Trevor Kincade, Bennet's new spokesman come from?  He seemed to pop up on the scene last weekend.  Also, isn't Bennet on like his 4th Chief of Staff now?

Come on pols -- this is pretty weak sauce, even for you guys.

Are you attacking him for hiring a pregnant woman to help him get his campaign started?  Because as was pointed out above she was his first spokesman.

The Romanoff campaign is clearly building their A team -- dropping some people while continually bringing on more and more talented people.

Dropping some people, bringing on better ones
Come on, Czech, you really find this to be a noble strategy? Hire the first person you find, then fire them when you get someone better. Then...fire that person when you find someone even better. That doesn't exactly build strong morale or dedication.

Welcome aboard! We're happy to have you. Please work hard until we find someone better to replace you.

Now, we don't think this is an actual strategy by Romanoff, but you can't be switching horses like this every few months. It's distracting for the campaign, and a waste of time for the manager and the candidate.

Lots of campaigns make staff changes. Some campaigns hire someone low-level to get them started, then bring on a bigger gun later. But this kind of repeat turnover is not at all common.

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nobility not required
This is politics -- not a HS play tryout.  You notice that Andy Kabza got canned after losing the caucus for Bennet?  Funny that you didn't run a story about that.  You know the full story there?  Bennet's staff screwed up the caucus, gets fired, but magically gets a job working for the state party...where Bennet's campaign coordinator's wife happens to be ED.

You aren't as smart as you think you are "pols" -- if you want to start going after staff, you might want to make sure that you know where the bodies are buried on your side first.

[ Parent ]
Kabza didn't canned.
He was a regional caucus director; caucus is over, thus the end of his job.

Back to the subject at hand. Yeah, looks like things are going great in the AR camp.

Toda, reached for comment at his home in Colorado Springs, told The Statesman that his departure from the campaign was because of several disagreements, which he declined to elaborate about for the record. However, he did say it was "somewhat" amicable on both sides.

Toda, a former Colorado Springs Gazette and New York Times editor, said serving as a campaign spokesman allowed him to see sausage being made from the inside. "And being an advocate was a change of mindset," Toda said.

"It was fun. Mostly," he added. "The hours were brutal."

As for what's in his future, Toda says he has some possibilities. He's most likely going to move full-time to Denver.



"I wouldn't characterize caloric intake as "professional development." c rork
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running PR interferance for POLS now?
I guess someone needs to.  1) Kabza was statewide.  2) Even if he wasn't, let me explain something about campaigns for you.  If you do a good job, you advance -- their caucus director would move into a role for the primary.  If you don't, you get fired and if they want to keep it quiet they get you hired somewhere else so you don't bitch about it (see example above).  Nice attempt at spin, this it's pretty clear that the Bennet staff screwed up and now they are trying to clear house.

Also, no response to Bennet jumping Chief of Staffs a bit back?

[ Parent ]
Let me explain a little something to you.
When you come roaring into a blog with the sole purpose of bashing one candidate while trying to build up another, your credibility becomes a question mark. And there's just nothing I love more than when someone starts out a conversation by telling me how smart they are.

Yes, Kabza was Caucus Director.You are correct--I have constantly and accidentally said Regional for months.

If you think Bennet's camp ever thought they were going to win the caucus, then your inside sources are fucking with you big time.

See you in August. Try to keep your eye on the prize. And I look forward to talking with you further when AR's numbers are posted. You should probably start working on your talking points now.

When we are on our fourth Chief of Staff and have hired and fired a FOX talking head, I'll be happy to engage you further.

"I wouldn't characterize caloric intake as "professional development." c rork

[ Parent ]
again...
way to come to Pols aid.  Funny that they haven't done it themselves.  You are a lot like peacemonger -- when confronted with an actual argument and facts you resort to personal attacks on the poster.  

I look forward to seeing you in August myself.  Romanoff is building a hell of an organization, but we will need the party unified under him to win -- no doubt.

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If you are looking for unification,
you suck at it bigtime. Are you paid staff for AR, by any chance? I'm just a curious girl.

You're adorable, by the way. A shiny new addition to the AR camp here at Pols (and at Square State, too, I see.)  

"I wouldn't characterize caloric intake as "professional development." c rork

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GO EASY on the newbie, MOTR
  I'd hate to see Reality Czech bounce!
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By the way,
Pols replied to you up above. They're pretty capable of taking care of themselves that way. Just because you didn't like their answer doesn't negate the fact they already more than ably answered you.

"I wouldn't characterize caloric intake as "professional development." c rork
[ Parent ]
actually they didn't
Pols apparently doesn't like it when you give a little more story than the simple ones they like.  My point remains -- Bennet fires their caucus director after a terrible showing...no story.  Romanoff hires some serious campaign staff with years of experience, and apparently it's a scandal.

As far as who I am, we all have to love the anonymity of the internet right "middle of the road?"  But since you asked nicely, no I'm not a paid blogger for Romanoff.  I am amused by the assumption of the Bennet people on here that everyone who got tired of reading the bias crap on here has to be staff.

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Right, Kabza didn't get fired
And Bennet's campaign coordinator's wife had nothing to do with hiring him.
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Come on Pols, you didn't answer the question.
You ignored Reality Czech's question but used the comment to bash Romanoff again. Whatever the validity of a particular point, you have no objectivity and credibility on anything Romanoff/Bennet.
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Credibility
Few do. Even fewer have objectivity.
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pop up on the scene
The new Bennet spokesman didn't replace anyone, he was an additional hire. The previous spokesman, Craig Hughes, is still running the campaign. Even you can admit there's a difference between turnover and staffing up.

A leader on the battlefield can be a leader in Congress. -- redstateblues
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turnover
see above response to pols.  Bennet is dumping people...but try to be quiet about it.
[ Parent ]
That's a fair point
but your point about Kincaid wasn't. There's always turnover in campaigns, but four press secretaries since mid September is a swiftly revolving door, there's no way around that.

A leader on the battlefield can be a leader in Congress. -- redstateblues
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3
I don't disagree that Romanoff has slowly been building a better mousetrap, but to be fair it really is 3.  Joelle was around at the beginning to help while he found someone -- she was about to start a family and wasn't planning on sticking around.
[ Parent ]
OK
Three press secretaries in five months, that's much better.

A leader on the battlefield can be a leader in Congress. -- redstateblues
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Non-Issue
I'm neither in the Bennett or Romanoff camp, but either can make their decisions as often as they like. One doesn't always get what they think they're getting. It's called buyers remorse.

If I were either candidate, keeping in mind the short attention span of the average voter, I'd stay as flexible and fluid on these types of issues as necessary.

It's when it comes to principal and practical problem solving legislation that I would be unwavering.

Exercise your right to peaceably assemble and reclaim the commons. Stop the militarization of America.

buyers remorse
it wasn't the campaign that had the remorse over their last hire, but the other way around.

Yes, it's inside baseball, but the ability of a candidate to stay on message and maintain clean, clear avenues of communication isn't something to sneeze at. These guys are pros, but there's always a lag coming up to speed and establishing relationships with media types. It's not like replacing one direct mail firm with another.

A leader on the battlefield can be a leader in Congress. -- redstateblues

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Perhaps there were videos
calling environmentlists communists, and union mmber thugs

judge elected officials by their actions, not by their rhetoric
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