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NoCo Tea Party Groups Lash Out at McInnis, Plan Anti-McInnis Rally

by: BobMoore

Thu Dec 03, 2009 at 11:04:42 AM MST


(Apparently they didn't get the message that the GOP/McInnis platform is meant for them. - promoted by Colorado Pols)

POLS UPDATE #3: Be there or be square--Tea Party, uh, party against McInnis coming soon. Details after the jump.
POLS UPDATE #2: Michelle Malkin is most displeased.
POLS UPDATE: Here's the clip, forwarded to us--chutzpah like only Fox News can deliver.

Original post follows.

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Northern Colorado's two largest Tea Party groups have laid into presumptive Republican gubernatorial nominee Scott McInnis over what they see as his false claims of Tea Party support.

What really got the Tea Party folks riled up was McInnis appearance on Neil Cavuto's show on Fox News Wednesday. As McInnis was introduced, an on-screen graphic read, ""Tea Party Backed Candidate Leading in CO Governor's Race."

As anyone who's spent more than a couple of minutes watching Colorado politics knows, the idea that McInnis has the backing of Tea Party activists is ludicrous. Cavuto comes across as pretty ignorant about Colorado politics, I thought.

Representatives of the Tea Party of Northern Colorado and the Loveland 9-12 Project were incensed at the suggestion that their movement was backing McInnis. Leaders of both groups blasted out e-mails to their membership following the Cavuto appearance.

"We are being played like pawns. And we can't put up with it," said Lesley Hollywood of the Tea Party of Northern Colorado.
BobMoore :: NoCo Tea Party Groups Lash Out at McInnis, Plan Anti-McInnis Rally
Nancy Rumfelt of the Loveland 9-12 Project said, "We must demand that we want PRINCIPLE over PARTY (P.O.P.)!!!"

I'm only tied in to the Northern Colorado Tea Party groups, but I suspect this reaction is being replicated across the state today.

You can read more on this issue at my Coloradoan.com blog, including how Hollywood and other Tea Party activists feel about the "Platform for Prosperity." Click here: http://bit.ly/5phj0O

(NOTE: In an earlier version of this diary I attributed the Tea Party of Northern Colorado quote to Ray Harvey, one of the organizers for the group. The e-mail was sent by Lesley Hollywood, another organizer. My apologies to both Lesley and Ray for the confusion.)

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Maybe they can get Doug Bruce
to run for them as the Tea Party candidate.
Hey I thought we were Teabaggers

Where is all the Maddow inspired hate?  

Where is all the rage against the principles promoted by groups like FreedomWorks - who are accused of helping to fund and run Tea Party activities?

Internet taxes and government regulation slows down the growth its a jobs issue idiot

Fundamental Tax Reform - make taxes simple ......

Lawsuit Abuse - Stop the trial lawyers' lawsuit lottery

School Choice - give kids and parents real opportunity.

Social Security PRAs

Work, Not Welfare

Border Security

Budget & Spending, spending is out of control

secret ballots and privacy protections for employees.

Death Tax unfair double taxation

Energy policy is driving up the cost and availabilty of it

Environment, private property rights first

efficient and fair taxation.

Free Trade

Global Warming an attempt by the global Left to gain control of the U.S. economy.

Trial lawyers, government mandates, and tax code distortions make health care too expensive.

governments have been aggressively regulating

Free trade creates wealth and opportunity for America

Internet tax-free.

Medicare - the crumbling program

Privacy

Judicial Nominations

Regulations are a hidden tax that costs the economy billions.

[ Parent ]
Feel better now?
I'm assuming those are all your keyboard macros.

Press Alt-F9, you get:

governments have been aggressively regulating

Neat!

[ Parent ]
hahahahaha!!
That was my biggest laugh on Pols in a long time.  Thanks for that.

In fact, I just registered
www.veryliberalagitatedpissedoffpeoplewithnoorganization.com
-Laughing Boy
[ Parent ]
feeling bold?

[ Parent ]
So bold that flag above is posted on my front fucking porch and I got night lights to keep her standing tall

[ Parent ]
Is she afraid of the dark?

[ Parent ]
No, the lights give her an erection
and that's just about all the details you need about Libertad's flag.
[ Parent ]
Night lights???
Hey man, try reducing the old carbon footprint. Turn the lights off at night. That way you can see the stars.

"There is no question that western Pennsylvania is a racist area"
Congressman John Murtha, PA 12th CD, 1932-2010
Medical care by the best health care system in the world.


[ Parent ]
Good job, Libby
You just showed why it would be a real hoot to have you promoted to front-page guest editor.

We here on Colorado Pols are incapable of sorting out the real arguments in a piece of bullshit without you boldfacing them for us.

Keep up the good work.

When I use lots of words, they always form an analysis (and, while producing high volume, also produce high information-density).
--Steve Harvey, 2009

[ Parent ]
ROFLMAO


"In short, we eat oil" ardy39

[ Parent ]
Love how the right keeps trying to portray
the always calm, well prepared and flawlessly courteous Rachel Maddow as a hatemonger.  Have they ever actually listened to her? Have they ever fact checked her?  Of all the liberal personalities, the image the right seeks to create of this one bears the least resemblance to the actual person. Gee, I wonder if her being openly lesbian has anything to do with it.  
[ Parent ]
"Hey I thought we were Teabaggers "
Why would we want to insult teabaggers?
[ Parent ]
Hey, I wish y'all...
the best of luck at tearing down another Republican candidate!

Y'all handed us the NY 23rd CD (democrats couldn't have done it without Teabaggers)...nothing we'd love better than having you help us keep the Governor's seat here in Colorado!

"But when I see a 9-11 victim family on television, or whatever, I'm just like, 'Oh, shut up!' I'm so sick of them because they're always complaining."  Glenn Beck  

[ Parent ]
Good
 Tea Partiers would be wise to steer clear of the Republican establishment. Make them come to you, groveling.
Good diary, Bob.
Good to see you back.

--From a "real dick."
by: JO
Never thought I'd say this
But I actually feel bad, really genuinely bad, for the Tea Partiers. They just got used and abused on national TV. McInnis laughs at them and uses them at the same time. That video clip is preposterous!
"He is the country's biggest Tea Party candidate"
Preposterous is right.
[ Parent ]
It is hard for me
to really feel bad for the Tea Party, but I certainly agree with you, they have a legitimate beef and a real reason to be angry. It isn't terribly surprising, given the history of success the Repubs have had in convincing many "have-nots" into voting against their own best interests. The Republicans have been suckering the conservative working class for decades. Their arrogance seems to have peaked with this move.

The poor, working poor, the lower and middle class workers struggling to get by have a lot more in common with each other than they have with the very well off and the stinking rich. But the GOP (and some Dem interests, I might add) has always been able to keep them from collusion by exploiting social issues...abortion, immigration, sexual orientation, etc.

That misdirection has kept the proletariat, if you will, from becoming a cohesive force. Perhaps that game is falling apart and the have-nots, both on the left and on the right, can understand they have the numbers to change the dynamic, if they would just set aside their differences over who sleeps where and the age of the planet...and stuff like that.  

[ Parent ]
Yes but
The other problem the teabaggers face is they want philosophical purity from those they support. That's a losing proposition in this country outside of some gerrymandered districts. It can win primaries but it then loses general elections.

What the teabaggers need to do is figure out how much the can get and still have their candidate win. They aren't even thinking about that (yet).

Amazon tax? Bad Idea!

[ Parent ]
Maybe the problem
is just that they KNOW they can't trust McInnis. Does anyone believe he won't double cross them if they help him get elected?  
[ Parent ]
Maybe this is a technicality
But is there anyone who McInnis hasn't double-crossed at one time or another?

When I use lots of words, they always form an analysis (and, while producing high volume, also produce high information-density).
--Steve Harvey, 2009
[ Parent ]
Tea Partiers are "looking across the broad spectrum"
for candidates to support? Does McInnis even know what he's talking about?
Yeah - no litmus test for his suporters
No litmus test on eliminating taxes.
No litmus test on TABOR
No litmus test on no government interference in reproductive health.
No litmus test on personal property rights in Piñon Canyon.

No litmus test at all for his supporters.

[ Parent ]
Whose idea was this?
Who thought it would be a good idea to label McInnis as the Tea Party candidate?  Was it his idea, Fox's idea, state or national party?  His primary path is cleared.  He doesn't need to run to the right.  Besides the obvious bone headed more of claiming the mantle of a group that has not endorsed you (and inviting their wrath), why would you so conspicuously (on national tv) identify yourself with hard core political movement.  Has anyone, republican or democrat, ever been elected to governor in Colorado who didn't self identify as a moderate?  
It wasn't my idea- but I like it.
I am the tea party endorsed blogger here on Pols.
[ Parent ]
Big Deal
I'm endorsed by the Prohibition Party, the Whig Party, and the Marijuana Party!
[ Parent ]
So what?
I'm endorsed by the No Tax on Alcohol Party, also known as Let's Have a Party Party!

Blond women all look the same to me-sxp151
[ Parent ]
Now that's a platform I can get behind
cologeek is the new dark horse candidate.

"Nice driveby spin" -- Libertad
[ Parent ]
Maybe the FOX shills hope that Tea Partiers in other states will send McInnis contributions...
even if he's shunned locally.
[ Parent ]
I loved how they kept putting up the poll showing McInnis leading Ritter
Gee, do you think that was it was for? Sure it was - SEND ME YOUR MONEY !!!!!

"There is no question that western Pennsylvania is a racist area"
Congressman John Murtha, PA 12th CD, 1932-2010
Medical care by the best health care system in the world.


[ Parent ]
Fox
It was FOX that put that label up, it's not like they okayed it with him first. That's just what they assumed. Scott has never claimed or implied that he had the Tea Party vote or support. But it's just like the Tea Party people to go all crazy and start a rally or a fight. Those people are nuts.
[ Parent ]
Did you listen to the interview?
Listen again. If you do, then you'd have to be deaf to repeat your claim that "Scott has never claimed or implied that he had the Tea Party vote or support."

None the less, some of your observations are quite astute:

Those people are nuts.


Sum Ergo Cogito.
[ Parent ]
Amazing...
Goodness you all were busy parsing Obama's speech yesterday now it's McInnis' interview.

Scott McInnis does have a lot of broad appeal because he's inclusive not exclusive.  That's one of the reasons voters like me support him.

Parsing ...
suggests a level of detail that isn't necessary. The entire premise of McInnis' interview is balderdash.

McInnis so darned inclusive he's claiming the backing of groups that repudiate him! Is that the Delusional Tent strategy?

[ Parent ]
Would those be the people excluded by the Platform? n/t


--
Our great democracies still tend to think that a stupid man is more likely to be honest than a clever man.
- Bertrand Russell
[ Parent ]
That's swell, Ellie
But it's also completely not the point here. McInnis does have moderate appeal, which we've said before on this site. But he's apparently not appealing to the Tea Party folks that his Platform for Prosperity was intended to reach.
[ Parent ]
Shouldn't it be
Principal Over Our Party (P.O.O.P)?

The Tea Partiers aren't interested in inclusion, they are people like Dana Isham in GJ and they hate McLobbyist with a passion.  



"Yes Twitty, I'm an idiot." Ben Stein's $$

[ Parent ]
Read the fine print
Says make checks out to Friends of Dan Maes. The Baggers are in bed with Maes, and vice versa. And then McInnis goes on national TV and claims their support. No wonder their pissed.

Don't be concerned folks....its just Republicans eating their young.....


"There is no question that western Pennsylvania is a racist area"
Congressman John Murtha, PA 12th CD, 1932-2010
Medical care by the best health care system in the world.


[ Parent ]
eat now
Here this.
Show me the money.
Online fortune.
No MLM.
[ Parent ]
The Villagers Are Approaching with Pitchforks and Torches
   I thought they would have been happy with Josh's endorsement of Scooter plus the Platform with Prosperity.  
  What went wrong?
Maybe it was
the tepid " yeah, but not really" nature of Joshs' endorsement.  
[ Parent ]
and the part
where Pnery said, "If McInnis loses next year, I'll be even more ready five years from now."
[ Parent ]
Bob Schaffer's Revenge?
   I think it's interesting that this GOP insurrection is starting in Bob Schaffer's former C.D.
  Why would Bob (or his minions) want to derail the candidacy of the man who announced the week before the '08 Senate election that he could have held the Allard seat for the GOP?
Sweet revenge
best served cold. But I wouldn't read too much into that, Moore admits he doesn't track Tea Party activity around the rest of the state.
[ Parent ]
Scott, how about an interview?
I know your team keeps saying "not now" but this would be a great way for you to clear this all up for everyone.

thanks - dave
david@thielen.com

(Hey, this approach got me an interview with Romanoff)

Amazon tax? Bad Idea!

It's not a valid comparison, David.
Romanoff can read...
[ Parent ]
P.O.O.P.
Principle over only Politics, or
Principle our only Politics, or
Patriotism over only Party.

Take your pick.

Let me see if I understand...
Unions have a problem with some of Ritter's actions but it's okay for Ritter to court unions to gain their broad support in his bid for reelection.

But

Some Tea Party purest have a problem with McInnis but if McInnis reaches out to them for their support in his bid for governor it's not okay with most of you?

Isn't that hypocritical?  

Ritter can "court" unions all he wants
but if he showed up on TV over a "Unions support Colorado governor" label and the host said, ""He is the country's biggest Tea Party candidate," there would be just as much of a (justified) uproar.  
[ Parent ]
If the Governor were introduced on
TV as "the Union-backed candidate" you might get a similar reaction. I guess maybe the difference is that Governor Ritter is well aware of his problems with the unions and isn't arrogant enough to claim their support until he knows he has it.
[ Parent ]
Fox news wrote the script...
You all know damn good and well Fox does it's hype with every breathless word and graphic. Rare is the anchor that writes his/her own script or questions on any network or cable news program.  McInnis sat down for an interview and I would hazard an educated guess the only thing he saw was a monitor with the anchors face speaking whatever behind the scenes producer had up on the anchor's teleprompter.  
[ Parent ]
I'd like to see McInnis
reach out to the tea party for their support.

Other than claiming he already has it, what would that look like?

Is he going to show up at the Defend the Republic rally 12/12?
Will he write a check?  
Will he speak?
Will he express doubt that the President was born in the US? (And if so will it be because he thinks the President was born in Kenya or because Hawaii isn't part of the US?)
Will he advocate for the abolition of the income tax?
Will he promise to kill the faster fee?
Will he publish a detailed budget that shows a reduction in state employees?
Will he refuse stimulus money?
Will he commit to opt out of any federal public option for health care?
Will he commit to abolish the state insurance regulator and allow any health insurance provider to offer health insurance in CO?

"Why do Republicans get to be stupid and win while whenever we're stupid, we're just stupid?"  sufimarie Feb 2010

[ Parent ]
The party of no?


"In short, we eat oil" ardy39

[ Parent ]
Never did
McInnis himself never claimed he had the Tea Party support, people may think he's ignorant or stupid, whichever. But he's not dumb enough to go around and start fights with them, they are after all Republicans on steroids.

Fox put that label on the T.V. They didn't call him up and say, "What would you like us to put under your name," that's just what they put and now he's getting the blame. I love it! That's the Tea Party at their best...trying to start a war because their feelings were hurt.  

[ Parent ]
are you kidding?
did you listen to Scott in the clip?  He is very clearly claiming ownership, or camaraderie, or in-beddedness, or something with the teafucks

In fact, I just registered
www.veryliberalagitatedpissedoffpeoplewithnoorganization.com
-Laughing Boy
[ Parent ]
Did ya read the fine print on the Rally annoucement ?
The whole thing is for Dan Maes.  Says make checks out to Friends of Dan Maes. Maes has to get something going on his campaign, so he's using the Baggers.  

"There is no question that western Pennsylvania is a racist area"
Congressman John Murtha, PA 12th CD, 1932-2010
Medical care by the best health care system in the world.


[ Parent ]
OK- so McI should be doing
everything else except writing a check to his opponent.

"Why do Republicans get to be stupid and win while whenever we're stupid, we're just stupid?"  sufimarie Feb 2010
[ Parent ]
Exactly


"There is no question that western Pennsylvania is a racist area"
Congressman John Murtha, PA 12th CD, 1932-2010
Medical care by the best health care system in the world.


[ Parent ]
Most Important
Will he allow his picture to be taken with Michelle Malkin and Swastika Guy?

When I use lots of words, they always form an analysis (and, while producing high volume, also produce high information-density).
--Steve Harvey, 2009
[ Parent ]
I just logged on
to Michelle Malkins' website for the first time. Holy crap! She has a lot of nutso followers.
[ Parent ]
I never really saw him before
and after watching this clip...he should get a better media consultant.  

He was dressed ok- but just ok.
But he came off looking ....smarmy? Condescending?

I mean, you gotta be yourself and maybe he's just an ass.  But seriously - a candidate can be coached to be more relatable.

"Why do Republicans get to be stupid and win while whenever we're stupid, we're just stupid?"  sufimarie Feb 2010

[ Parent ]
tee it up again Ellie!
Everybody loves hitting your softballs over the fence.  Maybe you have just one more?

In fact, I just registered
www.veryliberalagitatedpissedoffpeoplewithnoorganization.com
-Laughing Boy
[ Parent ]
Okay...
I'll put up my win/lose political record against yours any day of the week.  
[ Parent ]
uh, ok
you first

but are you talking about all the political offices you've won and lost?  Or the candidates you've supported who have won/lost?  Just so I'm clear on the rules here.

In fact, I just registered
www.veryliberalagitatedpissedoffpeoplewithnoorganization.com
-Laughing Boy

[ Parent ]
Be careful, indy
Sucker bet.

Ellie has a pretty good record.

When I use lots of words, they always form an analysis (and, while producing high volume, also produce high information-density).
--Steve Harvey, 2009

[ Parent ]
Such as?
I don't doubt it- but I don't know him/her.


"Why do Republicans get to be stupid and win while whenever we're stupid, we're just stupid?"  sufimarie Feb 2010
[ Parent ]
I do
And that's all I'm gonna say about that.

When I use lots of words, they always form an analysis (and, while producing high volume, also produce high information-density).
--Steve Harvey, 2009
[ Parent ]
Ditto
Ralphie is right. Ellie does have a pretty good record.
[ Parent ]
Looks like someone needs a teabag
[ Parent ]
NoCo Tea Party Groups Lash Out at McInnis, Plan Anti-McInnis Rally
Was that a way of freedom of expression?..Maybe a little cause people under law are sometimes hard to please.
Josh Penry is back in!!!
Just kidding, but I bet Josh is wishing he would have waited a few more weeks. This, plus a Plain endorsement, probably could have put him over the top.

"Nice driveby spin" -- Libertad
Don't you see?
If JP hadn't quit- McIniss would not have claimed the tea party support.

"Why do Republicans get to be stupid and win while whenever we're stupid, we're just stupid?"  sufimarie Feb 2010
[ Parent ]
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