UPDATE: Forgot to include this in my original entry. On January 24, 2009, I privately emailed webmaster at coloradopols dot com to request this deletion. I specifically requested it be handled privately, but I received no response.
Pols seems to have no TOS/TOU or privacy statement. Thus, it’s completely unclear to me what the rules are.
I’m currently trying to have all my account information and posts removed; perhaps someone will take care of that on Monday. But, there is no documentation anywhere on the site that talks about what rights Pols has to postings, and what rights authors retain. I’m currently campaigning to be removed from SquareState as well, but I interpret their position as that my brilliance is so great that they can’t bear to remove it from their blog. So I’m being as big a jerk as I can until they delete me. Pols, please don’t make me take that route here.
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Cancelling your account should be easy. However, removing all traces of your words would be unfair to the others that posted on the same threads.
Their words (and the context surrounding them) would also be lost. How would you make up for their loss?
I read some of your conversations with Steve Harvey, and I do sympathize. But you are essentially asking to have your virginity restored.
In the blogosphere, for better or worse, everything we post will likely survive in some corner of the universe forever. We all need to understand that important lesson.
Good luck in your future pursuits, but please don’t sully your image by polluting this site.
Peace
Steve would suddenly be talking to himself in the other day’s thread, more than would be considered healthy.
Asking all of your comments to be deleted is extreme and is disrespectful to other posters.
If you don’t want your account, stop logging in.
See? Easy.
It’s not my problem if it screws up threads.
Seriously.
I have asked to be removed politely. I have asked to no longer be associated with the redistribution of violence inherent in the political process. Unlike virginity, it’s quite easy to accomplish on a blog. They did it to the courties, as I recall.
I already deleted my other diary on the Vice Presidency, apparently with all the comments. The world has not ended.
I really don’t want to pursue injunctive relief.
But I will, if necessary.
And you’re threatening a frivolous lawsuit to boot…
Good luck with that.
Why is it my problem? If I want to take my toys and go home, that should be my right. If it pisses you off, I’m sorry. But this isn’t the legislature or a newspaper. Remarks made here are not required to be preserved for posterity, nor are they in printed form that can’t be recalled.
Additionally, as there is no TOS/TOU/privacy statement here, I assume that as author, I reserve all rights to my posts. I am not a lawyer, but it is my understanding that I have granted Pols a revocable, non-perpetual license to reproduce my writing. Now, when I request them to stop such reproduction, they can either respond amicably, “sorry to see you go”, and hit the delete button.
Or they can stall, create some drama, and let me decide whether to invoke the power of the state against them. (Which may be hard, as http://www.ColoradoPols.com, LLC, does not seem to be a registered business entity with the Colorado Sec. of State.)
Unless they reincorporated elsewhere, ColoradoPols, LLC, status with the state of Nevada is currently “revoked”. They haven’t filed their reports and fees due in 2007 or 2008.
https://esos.state.nv.us/SOSSe…
Did they move to Delaware or something? And shouldn’t they be registered as a foreign business entity if doing business in the state of Colorado?
You know, by incorporating, they subjected themselves to further state oppression. And this is what happens… clowns like me threatening them with legal action.
Or with reserving the name http://www.ColoradoPols.com with the Colorado SOS office.
Which I’ll do tomorrow. I have the day off.
As perhaps the SoS office will inform you tomorrow.
http://www.internic.com
I sincerely hope you find a worthy cause to channel your obvious passion, energy and intelligence.
This battle isn’t worthy of anyone’s time.
Peace
I know, internic, etc. I’m talking about business entities active in the State of Colorado (selling ads and whatnot). Now that I think about it, that does seem like a waste of time.
As one of the posts above said, you don’t get to undo losing your virginity (except for Doris Day – special case).
First off, it’s out there everywhere. It’s in the google cache, it’s in the way-back machine. And odds are good that several political groups in the state suck the whole site down via RSS feeds so they have a record to toast people with when needed.
Second, the supreme court has held that political speech on the web is even less restricted than newspapers. I’m not a lawyer but my guess is that legally you don’t have any standing to remove your posts.
Third, what makes you so bloody important that a sys-admin is going to go through and delete your comments one by one. And I’m guessing that it does require doing so one by one.
Fourth, you said it, live with it. Life lets you start over as many times as you want. But it doesn’t erase what you have already done. We all say things we later regret. The rest of us man up to it (I mean that in a gender neutral way).
For one thing, the SoapBlox Wiki indicates it’s a simple operation:
http://wiki.soapblox.net/Wiki….
Personally, the only things I regret saying here are those that imply that I support the political system. Otherwise, if it were just me being an internet jackass, I wouldn’t give a hoot.
And yes, I know about Google cache, wayback, and whatnot. If I cared to pursue those, I might. But I probably don’t. It’s more a matter of principle.
And in the duel of non-lawyers, I believe that as an author, I have rights to my writings unless I grant a license. Now, perhaps all my comments would fall under “fair use”. Which is fine, but I’d like Pols to say that. I’d also like them to specify TOS/TOU and privacy policies. Aren’t all websites that allow registration supposed to have privacy policies? I thought so.
I’ve had 3 books and dozens of magazine articles published. And I assume that whatever I post in any blog anywhere is free for anyone to use in any way – as I didn’t copyright it. Copyright law is very simple and straightforward and has minimal requirements. As you didn’t post with a copyright statement, you have no rights to what you posted.
Excerpted from:
Copyright Basics, by the US Copyright Office at
http://www.copyright.gov/circs…
And
Both published and unpublished works are protected automatically. Of course, registration and copyright statements are helpful, but not mandatory.
My prediction is that even if he was completely deleted he’d open a new account to brag, or to complain that CoPols folded and/or is practising censorship.
I fully support the right of online communities to control access. I might have even said it here.
Although, over at SquareState, they DID delete a post and disable my account when I posted the link to the Secretary of State’s office database search engine, wherein is documented the registration information for various entities, such as the “Square State Small Donors Committee” or “Gunny Bob” (registered by a Square State poster who had BRAGGED ABOUT REGISTERING THE TRADE NAME).
Apparently, posting a link to a database of truly public records, where one MUST assume that the information is recorded for all time for legal reasons, is enough to trigger johne’s ire.
I would feel slightly put out if they banned me without deleting my comments. But only slightly.
thanks
As GeoGreg points out above with citations, but simply put, if you write something (or draw something or film something, etc.), you own the copyright unless you explicitly assign it or license it to someone else. Which is why lots of blogs and other online forums include a nonexclusive assignment of rights in perpetuity by registering.
If that’s what Pols wants, then they should do it. As should SquareState and any other blog that wants to avoid kerfuffles like this one.
But, since Pols didn’t include such an assignment, I’m claiming my rights. I assume that if they had meant to include such an assignment of rights, they would have done so.
You are evidently having some kind of mental crackup here, you should probably get off your PC for a few days and breathe. Maybe talk to the doctor about changing up your meds or something. This all seems to descend from you saying some things in the comment section of a blog that you regret, and seriously. Tough titty. How many millions of people feel the same way? And now you just want to harass people if they don’t go out of their way to accomodate you? That’s just pathological, and you’re the one with the problem-you said what you said, buddy.
Sorry, I realize that clinically speaking the last thing you should do is tell an irrational person they are losing it. Good thing I don’t go to political blogs looking for psychology.
I’m just angry and bored.
I’ll note your concerns the next time I see my therapist.
http://www.reasonableman.com/a…
Excerpt:
Further down in the comments he says:
So, by not having an explicit license, Pols has opened itself up to all sorts of uncertainty about this matter.
As someone else in the discussion of that post notes, once you make an opinion public, it’s public. Fair enough. But as an author (even of silly blog posts), I should have a right, barring any licenses surrendering my rights, to decide to cease publishing my work. If I self-published a book, for instance, nobody could force me to print new copies if I didn’t want to. As far as I can tell, Pols has offered me a forum to self-publish. Now, I don’t wish to do so any longer. I wish that my previous works would no longer be published.
Maybe they wish to use the law against me in order to coerce me to continue publishing my past comments, which I don’t want to do.
http://www.blogherald.com/2008…
Hmm… sounds familiar…