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February 28, 2009 04:30 PM UTC
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And you have Dave Schultheis and Scott Renfroe to thank for my return.
Schultheis has stated that he has no regrets about the brain fart he let rip earlier this week about the price of promiscuity being HIV infection for newborns.
For the sake of argument, let’s put aside the logical non sequitur of saying that Mom sleeps around but baby will ultimately have to pay the price. Using Schultheis’ “logic,” the sins of the mother can and should be visited upon the child.
Let’s look at the economics of Schultheis’ stupidity. Chances are Mom and offspring do not have medical insurance. Mom is HIV+ and will give birth to an HIV+ child whose meds will cost between $1,000 and $1,500 per month for the next 70 or so years, all paid for by the taxpayers.
Even if Mom should be so fortunate as to have medical insurance, treating her HIV+ child will be expensive for her insurance carrier which will be passed along to the other policy holders.
Sure, there’s a price for promiscuity but there’s a heavier for Schultheis’ stupid. And we all get to pay that price!
… and wondered where the hell you’d been.
Re: Schultheis… Agreed on all accounts, but glad he did this because it (and his leadership’s complete fumbling of the matter) ensures Democratic hegemony in Colorado for years to come!
Been busy promoting the gay agenda. But will try to find the time to visit with you folks a little more often.
How about that Sean Penn winning for “Milk”?
Given the hype, I thought Mickey Rourke was going to walk away with the Oscar. Glad Penn got it. Rourke was good; but Penn displayed more acting range in his role.
….if I may use that word. The N.Y. Times had an interview a week or so ago with members of Harvey Milk’s family. His sister in law commented on how accurately Sean Penn portrayed Harvey, right down to his mannerism.
… but I wasn’t absent for 2 months either! 🙂
Are there some sites that you could point me too?
http://www.hrc.org/
We can also add in Equal Rights Colorado
And hundreds of other rights organizations.
And if anyone is interested in the partisan groups promoting the gay agenda, there’s the Stonewall Dems if you belong to the Party of the Donkey.
If you’re a Republican, there’s the Log Cabin Club or the Minneapolis-St. Paul Airport men’s room.
OQD welcome back.
Enlightened Coloradans appreciate your tireless efforts to remind some of the troglodytes among us that bigotry and hatred just aren’t cool.
Here’s to our continuing efforts to dye Colorado a thoughtful shade of blue.
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Is it fair ? Is it just ?
From my earthly perspective, it seems unfair for a child to be born into the world carrying a debt.
This applies to the rhetorical $30,000 share of the National Debt each newborn is allocated by some writers.
It also applies to the burden that a child’s father puts on them through bad conduct. “The sins of the father shall be visited upon the sons to the third and fourth generation.”
For some religious folks, it also includes “Original Sin,” a stain on every one of us born into the world.
But the child doesn’t get burdened with these burdens because Schultheis or I or other conservative bigots wish it so. (For my part, I wish it could be otherwise.)
That’s just the way the world works.
If a person chooses to drop out of High School, for example, and go into retail distribution of recreational drugs, she or he has sentenced their offspring to a life of material deprivation.
Without sexual promiscuity there would be practically no STD’s, or cervical cancer, or a very long list of associated diseases. There would be a lot fewer divorces. These things don’t just hurt the “sinner,” they hurt children, too.
Choices, and actions, have consequences. I do not speak from the perspective of one who is sinless, but one who has seen the consequences of my sinful actions have an impact on my children.
Perhaps Mr. Schultheis is sinless, or maybe he just isn’t aware of his sinfulness. If that’s the case, he has free license to cast stones, granted to him by God.
It would be sick if he really wanted children to suffer from their parents’ bad choices. That is what his words indicate he meant. But it is just plain common sense that such consequences follow.
It is not a non sequitur for a child to suffer the consequences of their parents’ bad choices. Quite the opposite; it is a cliche. Unfortunately. Regrettably.
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There was no parsing of his words, it’s exactly what he meant.
“What I’m hoping is that, yes, that person may have AIDS”
The man has no heart.
“What I’m hoping is that, yes, that person may have AIDS, have it seriously as a baby and when they grow up, but the mother will begin to feel guilt as a result of that,”
This photo kinda looks like Dave … seriously.
It’s reprehensible for him to wish ill for any child.
and imposing an unnecessary disease on them, is clever, but erroneous.
The debt incurred by the current stimulus package is designed to improve, not diminish, future generations’ economic well-being. You must then argue whether it does so, and, if not, what policies are better able to do so. That is the debate we’re having, and it’s an important one. But dismissing the stimulus package as something akin to unnecessarily burdening a child with a preventable disease at birth is a way of avoiding that debate rather than engaging in it.
The real question is: What is in the best interests of future generations? I argue that the stimulus package is, including its not-immediately-stimulutive educational and health care investments. Now, make your arguments about why that is mistaken.
By the way, the stimulus package may end up adding three or four trillion dollars to our national debt, in order to clean up the mess created by the previous administration. That previous administration, conversely, added five trillion dollars to our national debt. We’re you decrying the burden Bush was leaving to our children, one which is larger than the burden you analogize to a fatal disease now?
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develop into a comprehendable writer (if that’s even a word.)
I had no intention of maligning the stimulus package. I don’t even have much of an opinion on it, since it barely affects me. I won’t be paying for it; I barely pay any taxes. That’s not because I’m such a wizard at tax avoidance; I just don’t earn much. E.g., on my current contract, I’ve paid each of my 5 1099 subcontractors more than I’ve paid myself, and none of them got rich off of me.
I won’t be personally deriving any specific benefit from it, either, except that, if more people get “free” health care, I can then get more control over my health care expenses, which today are marked up 300% to cover the cost of other people’s health care.
I view the package as payback and graft and earmarks in which lower and middle class people, through their representatives, vote themselves free money. A case of a second “wrong” making a “right,” most here seem to believe. This package makes as much sense as the Bush crime syndicate robbing the Treasury to fund payola for their base.
“Golly, if the system is broke, and everyone else is looting the stores with their windows smashed in, what’s the harm in me grabbing a little loot for myself ?”
Through your eyes, I can now see how it looks like I was complaining about that. But I don’t even believe that I, or you, or my future grandchild, personally owes that supposed $30,000 debt, which I thought was a proportional fraction of the aggregate National Debt, not just for this Stimulus package. Nor do I believe it will ever have to be repaid.
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This site not only improves my writing, it helps with my thinking. God bless all of you.
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And your point about people voting themselves free money is well taken. But, I still believe, in this case it was the right thing to do. Despite its defects. Sorry I misunderstood you.
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as opposed to what I meant.
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to do the damned test and prevent the child from suffering, nothing at all like the examples you cite, Barron.
In the olden days, you had to have blood tests before you could get a marriage license…I think they were looking for STDs…I got the test and the license…the rest is a blur..
TB tests used to be mandatory…by the government for a variety of reasons. Vaccinations….I think kids have to get them…certainly to go to school…
I don’t know. A woman might decide to abort if the HIV test were positive…
I think it is remarkable that the medical professions do not require HIV testing for everyone..because of the danger of accidents during medical procedures…
20 years ago, that might have been true, but probably not today. Because giving anti-viral meds to the pregnant mom substantially reduces the chances of the birth of HIV+ child, most can have healthy children. But that assumes that mom is tested and treated, something Shultheis takes exception to doing.
If a woman learned she was HIV positive, there might be more cnsiderations than just could the child avoid HIV. Depending on many circumstances, there might be concerns about living to raise the child; or managing responsibiities with existing children; being healthy enough to support her family. Plus, what happens to a marriage if the woman is HIV positive? Such news could be destrutive….note: no obligation for the husband/putative father to be tested….
I support full rights for gays. This is one situation, however, where heterosexual couples, married or not, where the woman is pregnant, have a range of problems which gays do not. So, the gay experience with HIV is not relevant.
gd sons of b$#*…….in most of the world, the vector transmitting HIV is the use of non sterile equipment…..in surgeries, hospitals, innoculations, clinics, dental offices, barber shops, kitchens, tattoo parlors, battlefields, etc….sexual activity is a secondary source of infection…travel is so prevalent, that it may be impossible to identify the source of infection…
spare me your heart wrenching confessions BX…this is a medical matter, not a religious one….right now, you are making my skin crawl.
Sounds like government inserting itself between a woman and her doctor.
How many weeks after she gets pregnent will she be compelled to take this test?
What if she plans to kill the baby in an abortion: will she still be forced to take an aids test?
I have no idea how I did that.
Phoenix Rising. Unless I missed something (and I might have), he just kinda disappeared from Pols too.
Not that I’ve seen one in almost a year and a half. My eyes were damp everytime I read something here or on the internets about its demise. Proof that the better product doesn’t always succeed in the market.
Help me. Why has the post survived and the Rocky didn’t? I recall reading that the Post apparently got a larger portion of the JOA revenue stream, something about page size. Did not the lawyers for the Rocky see this? Coming or going? Or, where there other factors? What about the rumors of Singleton getting loans from the JOA?
Singleton, CEO of the Denver Post and architect of the JOA, made an interesting observation on the boyles show. both papers had published five days a week, and then split the weekend. He said one of the reasons the Post survived was that it took the Sunday edition and left the Saturday for the Rocky. The Sunday edition has the bulk of the advertising revenue for the week. You would have thought that a more equitable solution would have been made at the beginning of the JOA. It looks like the Rocky’s fate was sealed from the beginning.
Got the Saturday Post, today. Now, I really miss the Rocky.
There is nothing in the Post, just vapid commentary and news releases parading as feature stories. There is a point, counterpoint on global warming by two people, neither of whom are identified as meteorologists….
and NO Garrison Keiller….
In Seattle, where the P-I is on a deathwatch (some say it’s turn will come as soon as mid-March), the two papers had a JOA and the Times came up with Sunday. I thought they shared the weekend revenue though… Didn’t the Post and the Rocky do that? I may be wrong.
Parsing — I’ve been a long time subscriber to both papers, and I’ve always started with the Rocky in the morning, then read the Post to get a second take on current events. I’ll really miss that.
But to answer your question — the issues you point out have been briefly discussed and are basically true. But the essential fact to me is that with Singleton based here in Denver, and being a really tough and shrewd businessman, was able to convince Scripps management that he’d battle them on his home turf to the bitter end. So Scripps conceded the market rather than continue bleeding cash indefinitely.
The JOA was going to be very difficult to unwind, and in the end, Singleton picked up all the marbles (Boulder Daily Camera, Rockies ownership share, etc.) simply by waiving the obligations from breaking the JOA at Scripps.
However, it may be a Pyrrhic victory, which even the Post admits:
http://www.denverpost.com/brea…
Singleton was out for the Rocky and Scripps obviously couldn’t lose money over it.
Some lawyers on the Rocky side who worked on the JOA should be out of work, methinks.
Does anyone have recent sales/subscriber numbers? Man, I loved those newspaper wars before the JOA. All the homeless guys on the corners, give ’em a buck for the Sunday, just move those papers!
I don’t know why, but from the beginning people were predicting that the Rocky would fall first because it got the short end of the JOA. Losing the Sunday paper was a death blow, and probably should have killed the Rocky much sooner.
The Post didn’t survive because it’s a better paper, but it must have had better negotiators.
Apparently the Post had a right of first refusal, too; Singleton was saying that if there were a buyer for the Rocky, he’d exercise the option and kill the Rocky himself. I wasn’t touched by the email he sent me saying, “Don’t worry, dear Rocky subscriber, though we all mourn its loss I will take care of you by converting your subscription to a Post subscription.” Yeah right, and I feel sorry for him because he’s an orphan….
One tough Dude:
“I realize that passing this budget won’t be easy. Because it represents real and dramatic change, it also represents a threat to the status quo in Washington. I know that the insurance industry won’t like the idea that they’ll have to bid competitively to continue offering Medicare coverage, but that’s how we’ll help preserve and protect Medicare and lower health care costs for American families. I know that banks and big student lenders won’t like the idea that we’re ending their huge taxpayer subsidies, but that’s how we’ll save taxpayers nearly $50 billion and make college more affordable. I know that oil and gas companies won’t like us ending nearly $30 billion in tax breaks, but that’s how we’ll help fund a renewable energy economy that will create new jobs and new industries. In other words, I know these steps won’t sit well with the special interests and lobbyists who are invested in the old way of doing business, and I know they’re gearing up for a fight as we speak. My message to them is this:
So am I.”
He’s taking a tough stance on the status quo, knowing that going all in so early in the game could make or break the next 4 years.
This kind of moral fortitude has been long missing from American politics. It’s tragic that we as a nation had to fall so far for a man like President Obama to rise.
from ABC News
So all those people frothing at the mouth upset over gay marriage, then go home and watch hot lesbian action on the tube…
Repression leads to vice. What they don’t understand is that vice can be okay, if balanced or eclipsed by virtue. Otherwise, it’s just hypocritical for them to decry vice during the day only to indulge in it at night. Just ask Ted “my sexuality is complicated” Haggard.
Here’s a link to the original published account of the research:
Red Light States: Who buys online adult entertainment?
1) Utah
2) Alaska
3) Mississippi
Colorado is in neither the top 10 nor the bottom 10.
Several ways of evaluating trends are included, including looking at broadband access and demographics. Utah beats off all competitors, no matter how you slice the data!
A few choice passages:
Any attempt to suggest that the supporters of Senators Renfroe and Schultheis are likely to be “above average” consumers of porn is wholly supported by the data!
In Colorado all the porn is free!
LOL
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Now if I had told you that not only would the Nuggets beat the Lakers but they’d hold them to a season low, wouldn’t you have asked me what I was smoking, snorting, ingesting or shooting up? And nobody burst my bubble with the so sad story of how LA was coming off back to backs on the road. They’ve won most games played under those circumstances, too. Just let me savour the moment.
and to the memory of the late Lux Interior, the singer of The Cramps who died earlier this month:
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This video (circa 1990) by The Cramps came out before Tarantino’s “Reservoir Dogs” was even released…although if it was any influence on Tarantino, it was probably only one of a thousand and ten different influences on the film director…
This is the best music video I have ever seen that I had previously never seen.
I’d never seen this before, but this commercial’s tagline is
I suppose this is intended to be like the opposite of “manning the front lines,” but I wonder if anyone in Navy recruiting ever looked up the definition of unman.
…the Navy has screwed up an advertising campaign. In the early ’80s, someone in the U.S. Navy actually contracted to buy the right to use the Village People’s then-hit song, “In the Navy” in a T.V. commercial. Once someone actually sat down and figured out what the song was about, that campaign was deep sixed.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02…
we haven’t been exaggerating:
http://www.denverpost.com/brea…
How about this one:
Bruce says the government has no business monitoring STDs in the first place. “It’s not the role of government to go out looking at people’s genitals.”
And with many county services such as child protection being cut back, you can begin to understand Schultheis’s point of view, that the sins of the mother should be visited upon the child. Same logic could apply in child abuse cases — a child being abused by a parent will just eventually teach the family that bad behaviors have bad consequences — or not.
Now that the el paso county only works 4 days a week, I wonder if their annual vacation days were cut back.
Didn’t a county government employee retire last year with something like 6 months vacation and sick time that he charged back to the tax payers? In businesses that generate the revenue to pay their employees, rolling over vacation to such an extent is unheard of.
In spite of perpetual government waste, there will never come a day of reconing. It would have already happened by now.
Cashing out accumulated vacation time is the norm, not the exception. I worked for a Fortune 500 corporation in the HR/payroll department and paying out years’ worth of accumulated vacation pay upon termination was what we did.
“Unheard of?” No, my dear boy, that’s what they always did. Our company did decide to place a cap and cash out the excess, but that was only 4 years ago.
see Sarah Palin pictures
The Two-Faced One managed to get 30%. Piyush Jindahl came in second with 14%. Caribou Barbie tied for 3rd place with Ron Paul, each getting 13%.
…but one of my fans on Facebook as a link to Cleve Tidwell for Governor.
Who? Well, I know he’s another Flat-Earth Think-Tank Repub, but who?
http://www.facebook.com/pages/…
for a while now, and his supporters stuffed the poll at Rocky Mountain Right a couple weeks ago. Republicans always have such luck running businessmen with no political experience for governor, though, don’t they? (Democrats tried it with Rollie Heath with similar results.)