Weekend Open Thread

“We are very loath to believe what we are not able to comprehend.”

–Francois de La Rochefoucauld

31 Community Comments, Facebook Comments

  1. davebarnes says:

    SLOOOW server this morning.
    How much traffic can you be having at 0817 on a Saturday?

  2. mamajama55 says:

    Fiscal conservatives – where are your protests to the F35 fighter jet?

    At 1.45 Trillion lifetime cost each,

    The F-35 will find itself outmaneuvered, outgunned, out of range, and visible to enemy sensors.

    Per OMB's National Priorities Project, that's more than all of Federal  2015 discretionary spending on food stamps, WIC food assistance for families in poverty, veterans benefits, housing, all easily-cut social welfare programs put together. Mandatory spending  (social security, vet's benefits,unemployment 2.45 trillion – only another trillion more than each goddamned useless F35 jet.

    So where is the conservative outrage, the ticking clock, the demand for financial sanity and accountability? Crickets.

    • Davie says:

      Mama — if it's any comfort, $1.45 trillion is the program cost (several thousand planes shared with our allies)  — not the per unit cost (which is between $115 million to $337 million each).  The pilot's helmet goes for a paltry $500k.

      But the gist of your argument is otherwise hard to dispute

    • gaf says:

      Hey, it's for the military. We will pay whatever it takes, take however long it takes, not call anyone on the carpet, because…freedom! Not at all like, say, a VA hospital that is behind on completion and not delivered on the original budget, where fingers must be pointed, heads must roll, Obama must be blamed, because it's not like the hospital does anything to keep us safe, right?

  3. BlueCat says:

    Good Lord, when will Obambi learn. There's no point persuasion or charm offensives where Repugs are concerned.

    Sen. Jeff Flake Announces He Won't Support Iran Deal

    Obama had hoped to persuade Flake to be the only Republican to back the agreement.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jeff-flake-iran-deal_55cf979ae4b0ab468d9d832b?utm_hp_ref=politics&kvcommref=mostpopular

    • mamajama55 says:

      Would you rather he hadn't tried to lobby R Senators? I think he had to try.

      • BlueCat says:

        I'd rather he hadn't thrown Dems under the "extremists on both sides" bus while failing to notice for close to 6 years that the Rs meant it when they said, prior to his inauguration, that they were going to oppose anything he was for to deny him any victories. From day one his own side of the aisle was dissed and pissed and it's no wonder so few were willing to go out on any limbs for him or his achievements, even back when Dems held the majorities. Unlike his totally wasted years long charm offensive directed at Rs who openly hated his guts and worked for his failure, a combination of LBJ style charm and strong arm pressure directed at his own side would have been a far more productive way to go.

        • mamajama55 says:

          Well, Obama's no LBJ. He's more like the charismatic and visionary Kennedy,  without whom LBJ would not have been elected as VP.  But Obama's been effective nevertheless, in the face of adamant and irrational opposition..

          We don't know what kinds of pressure goes on behind the scenes – Pelosii, at least, keeps her people well in line. Speaking of Pelosi, I wonder why there has never been any effort to draft her for President? Perhaps Hillary's shadow (and connections) precluded it.

          Which of the Dem candidates do you think comes closest to your ideal hardnosed arm-twister Pres profile?

          Probably Kasich on the R side, but he's probably far too moderate to make it past a primary.

          • BlueCat says:

            Civil rights passage was the accomplishment of less visionary, more bare knuckles LBJ. And speaking of Pelosi, she got precious little help from Obama. Sorry, I'm not starry eyed about Obama. I think his political skills to do with the politics of election are stellar. For rallying his party to push through his agenda? Not so much.

            I'll never forget his instant disowning of the public option, even claiming at one point that he never ran on it. His instant surrender and refusal to let single pay even have a seat at the table purely for bargaining purposes while he wooed the Rs who had openly proclaimed their sole goal was to cause his downfall  and dissed his own as part of the extremist problem appalled me from day one. While Pelosi rallied the House for a public option, Obama clearly telegraphed that she was among those too liberal Dems who rs need not concern themselves about. It got him off on the wrong foot with his own caucus and didn't "charm" a single R.  

            He's been every bit as pro-corporate, pro-Wall Street as any Bennet type you care to name and never followed through on promises concerning restoration of transparency and reducing abuse of our rights as citizens in the wake of 9/11. I hope our next Dem President is more skilled in the politics of messaging and leadership.

    • Andrew Carnegie says:

      BC, Obama's charm offensive?

      Perhaps Flake did not find being equated to Iranian hard liners very charming?

      Schumer being a traitor might not be taken as charming either.

      Obama is only found charming by the left wing whack job crowd.

      • BlueCat says:

        What any of this has to do with my comment is mystery. You just scan for key words that give you an opportunity to deliver your diapers full of prepackaged rightie talking point poop. Never a deviation. No wonder independent thought is so incomprehensible to you, little Borgster. You're the perfect exemplar of Fox's dream audience.  

  4. BlueCat says:

    Pretty sure Canada doesn't want him back:

    Details have been emerging which highly suggest that both Ted Cruz's parents had become Canadian citizens prior to his birth. According to past public statements made by his father, legal opinions and documentation currently available, Rafael (Ted) Cruz was likely born of 2 Canadian citizens in Calgary back in December of 1970.

    Under public pressure regarding a possible run for President of the United States, Cruz did release his Canadian certificate of birth. Since the certificate only lists his parents place of birth and not their citizenship status, it has just merely been assumed that his mother retained her US citizenship since her birth. It was not until May of 2014 that Senator Cruz filed the legal paperwork necessary to officially denounce his Canadian citizenship which was automatic at birth.

    http://www.examiner.com/article/ted-cruz-must-show-naturalization-papers-to-keep-his-us-senate-seat

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