“It shouldn’t be about sex,” Slick Willy’s defenders cried during his impeachment crisis, but they’re showing their true colors in outing Palin’s innocent 17-year-old daughter and her boyfriend.
In an effort to destroy McCain and Palin, the hard left spread rumors on the internet that Palin’s baby really is her daughter’s. Even an honest netroot was able to shoot the rumor down at DailyKos.
But not before AndrewSullivan.com made a fool of himself on the issue.
What amazes me is that the Palins would run for VP knowing about the pregnancy. It just doesn’t make sense.
How will this affect the campaign? Multi-vote poll.
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It shows how I feel about this type of post.
Though true, like most attacks, they are uneeded and the wrong focus. They hurt Barack in the underground movement.
Thanks,
Matt
thought I’d put this out there. From the Mayo Clinic.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/heal…
“There are no known behavioral or environmental factors that cause Down syndrome.”
While I agree that candidate’s kids should be left out of political debates and that the outing of Bristol was despicable, now that the debate is raging, the debate needs to be discussed.
I did that in my opening post.
After reading dozens of articles and posts about this all day, I’ve suddenly realized what Gov. Palin decided.
She decided that it would be unfair to require her to give up the opportunity of a lifetime just because her 17-year-old brat got pregnant. (I’m trying to be clean, here.)
So, I take back my question of why would Palin put Bristol in the public eye like this. That was the wrong question.
The correct question is, should the parent be punished because her kid was irresponsible? Does a mom have the power to keep her 14-year-old to 17-year-old from dating a 23-26-year-old guy who obviously wasn’t interested in a platonic relationship?
DW says, yes, Palin failed in that respect, but is she entirely to blame? I don’t think so. The kid, the boyfriend, and the dad also can be blamed. There’s only so much a mom can do.
Wild kids can hide a lot from concerned parents.
Plenty of “good girls” get pregnant too. You don’t have to be a wild girl, just one in love who wasn’t taught proper birth control.
What’s your basis for calling her a wild girl? Is this part of your view that such girls are sluts, as you once stated in support of that clown who said as much a few months ago?
Some “nasty lefties” are showing that they are good students of their opponents’ dirty but successful tactics. Remember that false rumors spread by the Bush campaign sank McCain’s last run for the presidency.
They’re all scum, but then so are the people who condemn one side without criticizing their nasty allies.
the fact that the left went there on this issue should not be surprising to the right wing, who have been succeeding in using this kind of attack for years.
But, given the spirit of this campaign, I don’t feel it’s warranted. Obama agrees.
those nasty rumors orginated on the right. Regardless of who said what first, Obama says, as he said before on this issue, “Back Off!”
And AS, don’t you think it’s a bit hypocritical for yourself to be posting about how the left start nasty rumors while you try to imply that Obama is a Nazi-terrorist?
that they somehow made the bloggers’ claims into Obama’s fault. Nobody blamed George Bush when Rush Limbaugh said he was “dreaming” of riots here in Denver.
Or not?
is the ever hypocritical response from the right in these situations. For every mistake a Republican makes, somehow a Democrat is to blame. Apparently the Dems forced Palin’s daughter to get pregnant. If it wasn’t for those nasty lefties Palin and her family would have never had to go through the struggle of a teenage pregnancy, right?
So, why don’t you leave Palin’s daughter out of it? Unless of course you want to have a discussion on Gov. Palin’s public stance on abstinence education? Sounds like more of the “do as I say, not as I do” policies by the Cons.
between the RNC and bloggers?
It bears repeating that right-wingers originated the “Trig is Bristol’s Baby” rumors long before Palin was named as the VP candidate.
Then it certainly bears to be repeated and repeated again. Do you have any links about this?
Kos points out that Bristol’s real pregnancy has been known in Alaska circles for a while now, along with many other nasty rumors possibly started by her Republican rivals, and carried in right-wing blogs and radio programs.
Everything I can find says I’m wrong on the Trig/Bristol rumor, though – that a blogger posting as “ArcXIX” on dKos originated the rumor. That diary is gone now, deleted as a part of Daily Kos’s regular ban on conspiracy theories and unsubstantiated rumors. The blogger appears to also post over at Bellaciao.org.
My bad.
Good that you cleared this up. 🙂
Progressives can stand on their own, and we have our share of loonies and election fever. But we recover quickly.
I think most people found that rumor to be simply laughable. It was a story line for the last season of Desperate Housewives, when Bree’s teenage daughter was pregnant, and Bree told everyone the baby was hers.
and came in to the aftermath and got the two sets of rumors mixed up. And I’m not a TV watcher, nor even a watcher of TV watching. My television exists to play movies and other pre-recorded content.
Forget partisian advantage, this is dragging a child who is not a candidate and is facing a very rough time right now regardless through the mud.
We should drop it. Not even discuss who’s fault is what in when it first came out – just drop it.
AS of course, to try and score a political point. He’s a shameless prick, and no better than those trying to score points on it from the left.
I agree!
And if it was Chelsea Clinton or Gores daughters in 2000, I would also agree.
is a right-wing Republican
… or are you being sarcastic?
I didn’t know that. He’s still fairly conservative, especially given his sexual orientation.
several years ago. I don’t know if he’s still a Log Cabiner, but he’s definitely put his right-wing days behind himself.
So he can’t vote for any party, and not sure he could even be a member.
But yes, he is a strong pro-life Oakeshott conservative (who has also many times paid homage to Leo Strauss) who endorsed John Kerry in 2004 and Barack Obama in 2008 on foreign policy grounds.
He is in fact a conservative, albeit one who no longer recognizes conservatism in the supposedly conservative party.
too much loyalty to the queen
Because of the ban on citizenship applications by people with HIV/AIDS.
You stop telling lies about Michelle Obama and we’ll stop telling the truth about Palin’s family.
BTW, CNN is reporting about Todd Palin’s DUI arrest.
I also knew about the trig as Bristol’s kid rumor, but I didn’t bring it up. I also have read other rumors about Bristol which I have not bothered to repeat.
I don’t care about Todd’s DUI when he was 22.
I don’t think any of these things are relevant.
Playing aggrieved victim is such a classic for you tough guy conservatives, you have to act wounded even when no one has done anything inappropriate.
There is something about Palin I find troubling. I do think that Sarah decision making is questionable based on the fact that she got on a plane after her water had broke to fly 11 hours back to Alaska. That is taking an unacceptable risk with the life of a child.
But I don’t even really care about Palin. My main concern is that McCain was so cavalier in his decision. No vetting, no forethought, no shame. He chose pander over principle.
That was horrible judgement on her part.