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March 13, 2015 06:36 AM UTC

Friday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“Nothing has really happened until it has been recorded.”

–Virginia Woolf

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  1. Scandal?  What Scandal?

    “Everyone knows what the scandal is. She didn’t want a paper trail of her decisions and actions as secretary of state. She didn’t want to be questioned about them, ever. So she didn’t join the government’s paper-trail system, in this case the State Department’s official email system, which retains and archives records. She built her own private system and got to keep complete control of everything she’d done or written. She no doubt assumed no one outside would ask and no one inside would insist—she’s Hillary, don’t mess with her.

    She knew the story might blow but maybe it wouldn’t, worth the chance considering the payoff: secrecy. If what she did became public she’d deal with it then. When this week she was forced to, she stonewalled: “The server will remain private.”

    Is it outrageous? Of course. Those are U.S. government documents she concealed and destroyed. The press is not covering for her and hard questions are being asked because everyone knows what the story is. It speaks of who she is and how she will govern. Everyone knows it.

    She knows it too.”

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/hillary-seems-tired-not-hungry-1426205650

    Clinton vanity and control strikes again.

    1. Of course the article bypasses the facts that have come out in order to come to a conclusion. But, hey, the Murdoch Financial Jottings doesn’t need to concern itself much on the facts – better to support the 3+ Congressional subpoenas coming soon that will seek access to the server so they can find manufacture yet another non-scandal for Bill and Hillary.

    2. Andrew Carnegie:

      How about when Condi Rice perjured herself during Senate hearings, claiming that the intelligence memo warning of an Al-Qaeda attack on the U.S. didn’t actually mean an Al-Qaeda attack on the U.S.?

    1. Whereas Jeb Bush has weak ratings, and a problem with his shady business dealings, including his budding off-shore tax evasion businesses for his foreign backers:

      http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/features/2014-12-11/jeb-bush-has-a-mitt-romney-problem

      Bush’s recent business ventures reveal that he shares a number of liabilities with the last nominee, Mitt Romney, whose career in private equity proved so politically damaging that it sunk his candidacy.

      Documents filed with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission on Nov. 27 list Bush as chairman and manager of a new offshore private equity fund, BH Global Aviation, which raised $61 million in September, largely from foreign ­investors. In November the fund ­incorporated in the United Kingdom and Wales­—a ­structure, several independent finance lawyers say, that operates like a tax haven by allowing overseas investors to avoid U.S. taxes and regulations.

      The good news if Bush the 3rd gets elected, is that instead of the Saudis running our foreign policy, it’ll just be the Chinese telling us which countries to invade.

      But then there is always that Terry Schiavo nightmare — gee, I thought Republicans didn’t want government messing with an individual’s rights?

    2. And she’ll probably be as inevitable as they say. Still I think the WH, the State Dept, and anyone else is wise not to go all in professing to absolutely trust and have undying faith in the word of a Clinton. At least anyone who’s pretty sure there’s nothing ambiguous about the definition of “is”. Love them or loathe them, nobody can deny that they both can be, shall we say, slippery. Best to keep the question of whether you’re absolutely sure about the honesty of HRC’s claims…. ummmm… flexible? That appears to be what her former boss and coworkers are doing. Wisely.

      http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/the-obama-administration-doesnt-trust-hillary/article/2561455

      2. Not to use the “Johnny does it too excuse”, but in comparison, Jeb Bush and Rick Perry came up with interesting solutions to their email too.

        But there are two specific ways in which Bush’s conduct was no different from Clinton’s. First, he, too, owns his own email server, as MSNBC reported, which hosts the personal address (not official state government address) on which he conducted much official, political, and personal business. The same thing many are saying now about Clinton’s private set-up—that it could insulate her from subpoenas and freedom-of-information requests—would have been true of Bush’s situation as well.

        But second and more important, Bush and his staff decided which emails to make public, just as Clinton and her staff did.

        http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/03/13/there-are-other-email-scandals-people.html

        And Perry, being the simpleton that he is, just had his email automatically deleted after seven days!  Poof!  What open records problem?

        1. All true. I still don’t trust HRC as far as I could throw her. And she couldn’t even admit it may have been a mistake without sounding entitled and annoyed. But better a sneaky, arrogant, entitled HRC than anyone tumbling out of the GOTP clown car.

          1. Given what we now know about many of our past Presidents, the main difference today is that we get to know their faults in real time, and not 10 or 50 years after the fact.

            Personally, HRC reminds me of another great female leader, Golda Meir.  

            Meir was elected Prime Minister of Israel on March 17, 1969, after serving as Minister of Labour and Foreign Minister.[2] Israel’s first woman and the world’s fourth woman to hold such an office, she was described as the “Iron Lady” of Israeli politics years before the epithet became associated with British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher.[3] Former Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion used to call Meir “the best man in the government”

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golda_Meir

            1. Wow. She doesn’t remind me of Golda Meyer at all. If HRC hadn’t married the right guy and stuck with him through all the public humiliations he put her through because, even when he knew that the very real right wing conspiracy was watching him like a hawk, he couldn’t keep his pants zipped for 15 minutes, she would never have gotten anywhere near the presidency. As Hilary Smith, she’d be just one of thousands of talented professional women nobody ever heard of. She reminds me more of an Eva Peron or a GW who owed their rise to power to marriage or birth. And it’s a little premature to call her a great leader, don’t you think? But, hey. It’s all academic as she’s what we’ve got and she’s better than anything they’ve got. I’ll never be able to feel more enthusiasm for her than that. 

              1. Double wow!  I think you’ve got it backwards — while both Clintons are highly intelligent and ambitious, I think Bill owes Hillary a huge debt for getting him as far as he did in politics.

                It is unknowable what the future would have held for Hillary if she had met and married someone else, but she didn’t get where she is merely on Bill’s coattails.  He wouldn’t have coattails at all, if not for her.

                I called Golda Meir a great leader — Hillary still has to become the leader in order for history to judge if she meets her full potential or not.

                It takes an incredibly tough-minded and disciplined person with deep experience and organizational skills to be a decent president.  The clowns on the Right are woefully unqualified, as they gladly demonstrate every day.  

                Bottomline, whether or not we would want to have a glass of wine with her or not, she’s got what it takes to lead a nation, about which the same could be said of only a handful of others in my view.

                As the world gets more complicated, politics even more vicious, and the job description of the Presidency gets tougher, we need to develop a greater bench of candidates.  But unfortunately, as humans, they will all have personal flaws, so they should be measured on their accomplishments and vision for the future, not merely hounded for their failings, despite how crucial superficial gossip has become to filling the new media’s 7×24 “news” cycle.

                1. Bill was the charismatic star. I so far haven’t seen any particular indication that she has “what it takes” to be a great leader. I expect she’ll be an OK President if elected, nothing special besides making history as the first woman. Pretty much my assessment of Obama, if you want to know the truth. I don’t think he’s been terribly skilled on the job.

                  You obviously see a whole lot more in her than I do. That’s why there’s chocolate and vanilla. And good for you. You’ll probably enjoy 2016 a lot more than I will.wink Not snark. I meant it and certainly respect your right to have a very different opinion of HRC than I do. We are not the Borg.

                  1. You are, as always, correct in your assessments.  But what also keeps me motivated is the thought of what would happen if Republicans controlled not only Congress and the Judiciary, but also the White House after 2016.

                    Even a so-called “moderate” like Jeb Bush would set the nation back 100 years if the GOP controlled all three branches of government.  I dare not think what would happen if Cruz, Jindal or Walker became President.

                    1. Absolutely. I shudder to think. I just wish my choice wasn’t between catastrophic and not catastrophic. But, hey, that’s life in today’s political landscape.

  4. Has the troll’s Traitor Brigade been frog marched out of the Capitol yet to the Navy Yard for transport to their new lodging at Gitmo? I guess they were right, it’s a good thing we haven’t closed it.  

      1. Hey, AC, just curious — are you going to get tossed out on your kiester tomorrow along with Ryan Call?  Or have you whipped out your knee pads to give Steve House the traditional GOP Lackey’s welcome?

    1. Yup — ever since McCain made a superstar out of Palin, it has been the fastest way to fame in the GOP:

      It’s amazing to see how this works. Steve M. argued this week, “This is how it always goes with the GOP – a Republican does one showboating, immature, possibly reckless thing, and he or she (usually he) is an immediate star. Look at Ted Cruz. Look at Rand Paul. Look at Ben Carson.”

      The crazies have definitely taken over the GOP for the forseeable future.  And the scary part is how much of the electorate (and media) encourage them.

  8. Cutting pollution and switching to renewable energy turns out to be a Commie Conspiracy afterall!  We need to elect more Republicans to get us back on track burning more oil and coal to make up for the shortfall in CO2 emissions!

    Global economic growth picked up pace slightly to 3.3% in 2014, according to the IMF, while the amount of CO2 released into the atmosphere remained at 2013 levels of 32.3 billion tonnes.

    “This is both a very welcome surprise and a significant one,” said IEA chief economist Fatih Birol. “For the first time, greenhouse gas emissions are decoupling from economic growth,” he said.

    The halt in emissions growth reflected changing patterns of energy consumption in China, including using less coal. The world’s biggest polluter also relied more heavily on renewable sources, such as hydropower, solar and wind to generate electricity.

    http://money.cnn.com/2015/03/13/news/economy/greenhouse-gas-emissions-economy/index.html

    Oh yeah, and oil just fell to $45/bbl today trying to buy back market share.

    Russia’s oil-soaked economy is tanking rapidly — no wonder Putin has pulled a disappearing act:

    The bank also slashed its growth forecast. It expects the Russian economy to contract by between 3.5% and 4% in 2015, worse than its January prediction of 3%.

    There is plenty to worry about.

    Low oil prices and Western sanctions have crushed the economy. The ruble plunged 40% against the dollar in just six months — sparking a backlash against the central bank. Some even accused it of sabotage.

    The Bank of Russia is caught in a bind. Inflation is soaring — it hit 16.7% in February, with food prices jumping by 23% compared to last year. Cutting rates could push prices even higher, but leaving them at elevated levels may mean an even deeper and longer recession.

    http://money.cnn.com/2015/03/13/news/economy/russia-central-bank/index.html?iid=HP_LN

    Where are all the GOP “Drill Baby Drill” cheerleaders when you need them?

  9. 1936 Supreme Court decision said that Congress had no right to interfere with the President re treaty negotiations. 

    Possible violation of the Logan Act of 1799. 

    Time to recall Cory, I think. 

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