Obama VP Straw Poll

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After seeing some comments on the Obama ticket today, I thought it would be interesting to see who would win in a head-to-head matchup.

I threw in Colin Powell as a joke, but wouldn’t that be something? A Republican, military man, slighted by Bush… attractive however improbable–or impossible.

Which of these Democratic VP candidates is your preference?

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  1. RedGreen says:

    It’s Tim Kaine, not Tom. And where’s Brian Schweitzer?

  2. Craig says:

    I’m for Governor Schweitzer from Montana.

    • Half Glass Full says:

      If Obama’s considering another relatively new governor with moderate credentials and no military background, why not Schweitzer who’s a wonderful presence and campaigner?

  3. Gray in the mountains says:

    Could you add Scwheitzer?

  4. libgirl says:

    Senator from Rhode Island, military. ???

    • RedGreen says:

      taken himself from consideration, and said he’s definitely not being vetted. I think it was the end of last week, after returning from the Iraq/Afghanistan trip.

  5. MiddleRoadDem says:

    Schweitzer too.

    • BlueCat says:

      If the man had done the right thing and resigned instead of pushing what he knew to be bull, the rush to war just might have been stopped,  He doesn’t deserve consideration.  He chose being loyal to the Bush/neocon team over being loyal to his country, the truth and his fellow Americans.  

      Plenty of other cabinet members throughout history have resigned when faced with a similar dilemma. Those cabinet members behaved with honor. Powell did not.

      • Arvadonian says:

        I was at a National Business Conference two years ago–this was a relatively conservative group.  Powell was the keynote speaker.  There were approximately 12,000 people in the room.  Powell’s topic was “Leadership” and he chose to speak on always being honest to those you lead.  When he got to the part about “never lie to your team” roughly 1/5 of the audience got up and left.  

    • thumper says:

      Edwards before.. but that scandal is going to bite him in the ass. The media is ignoring it now but if he were the vp pick they wouldn’t anymore.  

      • BlueCat says:

        Edwards was no longer in serious contention.  Biden would be the best all round choice though this or that other candidate might be better in a particular way or for a particular state.

        Biden has more positives, less negatives than the others and is a strong, clear debater when he curbs the verbiage, which he has increasingly learned to do. He’s also warm, funny and likable.  Heck even Obama clearly likes him in spite of the  “clean” remark.

  6. Arvadonian says:

    Of those on the list, Bob Graham brings the most to the table.  

    Of those on the list who seem to have a real chance of being selected, Richardson and Biden are the strongest.  I’d tilt towards Biden being the best of the two.

    • BlueCat says:

      Should have been the choice for Gore in 2000.  History would be radically different.  It’s too late now for Graham.  

      • redstateblues says:

        and see tells me that this person is going to be someone who is not a Washington insider, though Biden seems to be the exception.

        • RedGreen says:

          on McCain’s pick, pushed hard by Mark Halperin on Time’s The Page. According to that buzz, all signs point to Frederick Smith.

          I tend to think Kaine’s public announcements about his top-tier status might work against him. Obama won’t want to be seen as being pressured into a pick (see the marginalization of Hillary).

          • Haners says:

            I don’t see where the hype is coming from with him.  I would be uneasy with someone of McCain’s age picking someone with zero government experience when there is a greater possibility that McCain’s V.P. could at one point be President.  The announcement would certainly get all sorts of coverage, but I don’t think it would be the good kind

            • RedGreen says:

              I’ve just seen interviews on Charlie Rose, but he inspires confidence in ways Carly Fiorina doesn’t. He encapsulates what McCain’s campaign is all about, a true American success story. It might be that Romney has too many negatives (evangelicals, suspicion over his liberal past), Pawlenty is too bland, Portman too much of a lightweight, and only a Hail Mary (or Hail Fred) will work.

            • redstateblues says:

              Dick Cheney – Off the Washington scene in 2000 to be sure, but still an insider by any standards. He had experience in several jobs in the Executive, as well as being a former Congressman.

              Al Gore – Experienced Senator, political family, Washington insider.

              Dan Quayle – Bizarre, but an experienced, polished legislator. Not a very good speller, but a Washington insider.

              George H. W. Bush – Not as heavily entrenched in Washington as some of the Vice Presidents who came later, but still a two-term Congressman from Texas.

              Walter Mondale – Washington insider, senator from a swing state (was MN a swing state then?) for 12 years.

              History would show that at least SOME Washington experience is a prerequisite for being the VP–at least in the last 30 years. But who knows, a lot of things have been different in ’08 than in previous elections.

              • RedGreen says:

                His stint heading the CIA and the Republican Party (two different stints, though that might not be obvious), and his senatorial father, put the elder Bush at the very center of Washington insiderdom.

                Most analyses show the VP doesn’t make much difference in actual votes, but the presidential candidate’s selection of a VP can cast light on his judgment.

              • RedGreen says:

                that the reason so many recent vice presidents have deep Washington experience is that their presidential candidates didn’t — governors of Texas, Arkansas, California and Georgia, none of whom had spent much time in Washington.

                Other than GHW Bush, the last true Washington insider who was elected president was Nixon, who chose Maryland governor, and basically national non-entity, Spiro Agnew.

                • Haners says:

                  However, McCain is certainly going to attack Obama as not having the experience to lead the nation.  What does it say for McCain to name someone with zero experience, and then attack Obama for not having enough?

                  • redstateblues says:

                    between Barack and a hard place. If he picks someone who is a Washington insider, he will be accused of practicing the same old politics. If he picks someone who is an outsider, he will be accused exactly like Haners said.

                    Let’s all keep in mind that this person is a heartbeat away from the Presidency, and with both of these guys there is potential for an accident/illness/wacko to take them out of commission for a while, if not kill them. With all of this talk about 2008 being the most important election in recent memory, I’d say the VP choice has an elevated importance as well.

                    There’s also the Cheney factor. Will the next President allow their VP to be as powerful as Cheney?  Probably not, but I think that Dick has raised the scope and the power of the Vice President’s office.

                • One Queer Dude says:

                     He had some polling done with all the Big Beasties in GOP as potential running mates (i.e., Rockefeller, Reagan, etc.), and every one paired with Nixon actually cost him some votes. Liberal Repubs didn’t want Reagan (back when there were self-avowed liberal Repubs), and the right winger certainly didn’t want Rocky.

                    So he figured he had to go with someone nobody knew and to whom nobody could object…and preferrably from a toss-up state.  

                  • RedGreen says:

                    Is that from Nixonland?

                    They certainly didn’t vet vice presidential picks to any extent in those days, or they would’ve known what everyone else knew in Maryland, that Spiro was on the take.

                    • One Queer Dude says:

                         And they most definitely did not vet VP candidates before ’72 when George McGovern learned the dangers of not doing so the hard way.

                    • Haners says:

                      About the Nixon/Agnew relationship is a book called “very strange bedfellows”

                    • RedGreen says:

                      I’ll have to check it out. But I’ll recommend Nixonland to anyone interested in how politics got to be so nasty — it wasn’t always this way, some folks created it. Great history.

                    • Haners says:

                      I’ll take a look at “Nixonland”.  Thanks for the tip

  7. One Queer Dude says:

       And O.Q.D. will go out on a limb here and predict that the Obama-Kaine ticket will carry the Commonwealth of Virginia.  

      There will be a great sense of poetic justice when the state that once housed the capital of the Confederacy provides the critical electoral votes to elect the first African-American president.

    • Jambalaya says:

      …except when he’s accepting all manner of presumptuous missives from random GOP “hopefuls” desperate to attract any attention they can get.  

      • BlueCat says:

        I know it’s a “preference” not a “who do you think will win” poll but come on.  Who is voting over and over for the coward Powell? Richardson hasn’t even been in the running for ages.  Sibelius? Why?  I’m surprised Gore was left out.  At least Ritter got 0 votes which on the plausibility scale is exactly right.

  8. sjintheknow says:

    Vote for Ritter then we can get rid of him in Colorado!  

    • Jambalaya says:

      …honey, this is just an internet poll thingamabob.  It’s not the real election…..so don’t get your hopes up too high.  

      Sigh, I hate to see children’s wishes crushed.

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