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(R) Greg Lopez
(R) Trisha Calvarese
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President (To Win Colorado)
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(D) Joe Biden*
(R) Donald Trump
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(D) Diana DeGette*
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(D) Adam Frisch
(R) Jeff Hurd
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(R) Lauren Boebert
(R) Deborah Flora
(R) J. Sonnenberg
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CO-05 (Colorado Springs)
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CO-06 (Aurora)
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(R) Gabe Evans
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State Senate Majority
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June 12, 2008 11:11 PM UTC
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He’s just a shill for labor … I mean, management … no, labor … ?!?!! … wait, how are we supposed to know how to think when they stop demonizing each other and admit both business leaders and labor unions play important roles? That’s just crazy talk.
They’re not perfect (who is) but this is an incredibly good sign – working together rather than trying for advantage over the other.
I don’t understand the logic of this position.
Blake uses false Union-backed facts to articulate the position that Right-to-Work states perform worse economically.
Blake’s premise is that business’s natural impact on the economy would be to create negative economic growth.
He is saying, but for Forced Unionization, businesses would naturally decline in production and output. Businesses natural process would be lower the GDP.
However, because the Union’s can force membership and dues; businesses instead have positive economic activity.
That is totally irrational. Then he goes on to say the following:
So, he goes on to say that the Chamber supports Right-to-Work, the ability to let workers unionize and the right to freedom of association. They obviously support Right to Work.
Do you back extending the Right-to-Work to all Coloradans, the same democratic right state and federal employees enjoy or not?
Why shouldn’t we extend to all Coloradans the policy put forth by the Governor – the Right to Work.
The Denver Chamber has no credibility with business owners who are not state contractors.
It has backed every tax increase initiative and has acted against the interests of its small business owners for years.
YES on 47 to stop the corruption.
Compromising chamber of commerce has a special partnership with Unions – one is even a member.
Chamber against peoples right to choose.
Chamber against Colorado’s small and medium sized business.
Chamber for Big Denver Corporations and their Big Union partners.
Chamber for the corrupt sale of ‘labor peace’.
Remember the attempt to break labor peace and the labor-led constitutional amendment on minimum wage increase?
Hey Big Business Chamber, the Governor gave state employees the Right to Work when he Unionized them. Shouldn’t all Coloradans have the Right to Work?
what the unions are so scared of that they insist on doing away with private “secret” ballots. What are they afraid of? Is it because they simply want to intimidate the workers into joining their cause? And they don’t know who is “one of us” and “who is one of them”?
I find that line of thinking un-American. Why not do away with secret ballots for the elections in November then? Post everyone’s vote in the newspaper.
Can someone explain this part to me? I am already against unions being allowed to “force” non-union workers into paying their dues, but this part along with their forced extortion, is not something I would be very proud of.
if it is such a good idea?
“Where is my answers? ”
You’ve had a lot more than 2 beers.
it should have been “answer” singular, but since you resort to making fun instead, I guess none of you have the stones to actually answer me do you?
are you planning to just ignore it too?
on the mind of Pete Coors?
I asked a legitimate question and was answered with smart ass remarks on a grammar mistake (as if EVERYONE here is freakin perfect) and questions about someone else’s opinion.
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We are making fun of YOU.
There’s a difference.
to be the object of ridicule at the hands of a senior editor of a major newspaper…
That “parent” link is really helpful for sorting that out when the comments lump up at the right side…
Well thought out.
You give yourself all the credibility you deserve. Maybe more.
Was meant to reply to this one.
I thinks you is very smart.
…difference noted.
John McCain is out of touch.
These elections aren’t really “secret ballot” at all. By the time employees get to vote, the environment has been so poisoned that free and fair choice isn’t an option. People call the current National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) election system a secret ballot election-but in fact it’s not like any democratic election held anywhere else in our society. It’s really a management-controlled election process because corporations have all the power. They control the information workers can receive and routinely poison the process by intimidating, harassing, coercing and even firing people who try to organize unions. No employee has free choice after being browbeaten by a supervisor to oppose the union or being told they may lose their job and livelihood if workers vote for the union.
http://www.aflcio.org/joinauni…
I had no idea that is how the process worked. Thanks for the education. You would think that brow beaten employees without any choices who are constantly threatened with the loss of their jobs would go work somewhere else.
I am sure glad that has never happened to me.
Those EVIL corporations. I hate them all!
Don’t assume everyone else has the same experiences you do – they don’t.
about how the proposed union election is supposed to work?
About a month or so ago, this was a topic of debate and someone (can’t remember who) demonstrated how it was still an anonymous process. The person who was making the same argument as you had no reply to that.
I have no horse in this race, although I sympathize with unions more than management. So… do you have practical knowledge about how this works? Please answer – I will take it that you don’t have the “stones” if you don’t.
from the RMN, and an hour long segment on Mike Rosen this morning.
I too have no dog in this contest but from what I hear, it sounds like strong arm intimidation tactics to me.
If this was being done by righties, most everyone here would be up in arms.
I have no sympathy for unions whatsoever.
Rosen feels the same way as you, I’m sure. Did his segment demonstrate how there was no anonymity in the process, or did he simply focus on the “no secret ballot” angle?
to catch, it was dealing with the concept of how the unions are pushing for open ballots. I (and Mike and his guest) take that as doing away with the secret ballot. If that is true, and I’m guessing it is from the rabid attacks I took simply by asking what is the purpose of this, then it is plain bullshit. Strong arm union bs.
It is nobodies business how a person votes on a matter as important as if a place of business should go union or not.
Steve Balboni just made a comment about this. You’ve probably seen it by now, but that was the argument I was referring to.
Without even knowing you, I can assure you that you have benefitted greatly from union legislation over the last 100 years.
But, hey, you wouldn’t know. You’ve had too much union beer. (Said in jest, not intended as an insult.)
What do NLRB voting procedures have to do with A47?
As for your question, card check is a secret – no one knows how you have voted, you merely sign the card to verify you are a legitimate voter. I thought you guys were anti-vote fraud?
Why do business interests need 6 weeks to badger, hector and fire labor friendly employees before an election takes place? If the unions are such a bad deal for the workers you all claim to care about why are you guys running scared?
From a press release issued moments ago from U.S. Senator Ken Salazar’s office:
The chambers across the fruited plain have been coopted by government bureaucrats, non-profits and unions a long time ago. It should come as no surprise that the bleeding hearts would take a vote during business hours when real business people are working.
Check the memberships of most chambers and you will find an inordinate amount of Non-profit and Government agencies. Along with individual union members.
But, hey. It was a good try (making us believe that real businesses are against Right to Work).
i thought you were a useless shill…i dont understand this reply…did I miss something?…seriously, will some explain this to me?
Go check out the boards of these faux business organizations.
Ask yourself how many of these people are principles, owners, maintain the treasury function, sign the paychecks, etc…
When you have a bunch of foundation presidents, mayors, major corporation’s PR exercise jockeys (that is junior VPs, regional VPs, 1st VPs and not real CEOs) making decisions for the Chamber you get … people who need that invite to Hick’s next PJ party or Auggie’s next shotski party.
They wet their pants when power enters the room as most have positioned themselves such that this is the most high profile thing they have ever done.
Well said.
Government accounts for about 32-33 percent of GDP. The problem is that this number is growing at an alarming rate. Government and their subcontractors are competing with small business owners and in some cases actually prohibiting them from doing business at all (with threats of prosecution and confiscation of property).
The chambers have an inordinate amount of representation by Government (example School Districts are often members), Subcontractors (those corporations that rely on Government Contracts), Non-profits (Organizations that rely on Grants, and Govt handouts).
This is why the chamber promoted Ref C. The organizations in charge of the chambers are large and powerful and they influence the vote in favor of higher taxes and other things that do not favor the business environment in general.
Most of the companies promoting the increase Govt agenda directly benefits from the tax dollars that are diverted from small business and companies that do not participate in Government contracts and government subsidies.
They always vote in favor of expanding government at the expense of the private sector. The votes are taken during hours which are inconvenient for the small business man to participate in.
If the Chamber (and other chambers) are in the pocket of big government, then why don’t government-hating conservatives form their own group, gather in living rooms, then maybe at a state convention, and put some candidates on the ballot?
Oh .. wait … they have … and this fringe group, the “Republican Party,” isn’t resonating too well with voters.
Why you can go to their website and see their board that voted this way.
Pinko companies all like IBM, Coors, CH2M Hill, Xcel, & more.
Financial types are known for their pro-union views, aren’t they?
They won’t be hurt by unionization in Colorado, and they’re run by ambitious, ruthless, self-serving executives who don’t really believe in capitalism.
When you live off government contracts, you think like a politician and a government bureaucrat. In CO, Dems are in charge and the companies mentioned above know where their bread is buttered.
Another skeptic says it all.
The bottom line is that a large cross-section of the business community has said that things are good the way they are and they want to work with unions, not fight them.
Sucks for you that even the business community doesn’t want what you’re selling…
I always thought that “ambitious, ruthless, self-serving executives” was pretty much synonymous with capitalism. What part did I miss? (BTW, you left out “greedy”).
Oh, and looking at the board of directors for the chamber, I don’t see any that draw most of their income from govt contracts. Maybe you can enlighten us as to which ones do? Otherwise, maybe you need to revise your talking points.
“Certainly, support of ‘right to work’ is a basic business principle. Allowing unions the ability to organize, but not requiring workers to participate or pay dues, makes sense in our world.”
No one wants a labor meltdown like the Unions are proposing with their ballot titles.
Why don’t they just fight Right to Work?
They are. And this is how to do it.
Right now, CO has a right-of-center labor policy. Under the present rules, it’s hard to unionize.
If Jon Coors wants to push that labor policy further to the right (bankrupt unions), the unions will work to push toward the left (make it easier to unionize).
This strategy works on several levels:
1. When the mud flies, this will pit employers against employees, and in a very public way – not a good thing for biz.
2. Probably most voters will get disgusted and vote against ALL the ballot measures.
3. Business will have to pony up to fight the pro-union measures. That will be more important than supporting A47 and will suck the oxygen out of the A47 camp.
The bottom line is that anybody in business knows that they already have a pretty good deal here. As a result, they have little to gain and much to lose in this fight.