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July 17, 2007 03:28 AM UTC

Anybody Notice the New Big Line?

  • 55 Comments
  • by: JeffcoBlue

( – promoted by Colorado Pols)

Guess the Pols are soft-launching it, but I’d like to go ahead and discuss since they’re busy or whatever.

Joan Fitz-Gerald 3:1
“NO LONGER THE CLEAR FAVORITE after uninspiring Q2 fundraising”

Jared Polis 3:1
“Q2 report was a surprise, and JARED POISED TO TAKE TOP SPOT”

Other candidates also mentioned…

Discuss…

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55 thoughts on “Anybody Notice the New Big Line?

      1. Was just pointing out the “other candidates” statement was stupid. By the way, if you are going to bring up the Polis’  fundraising time, I’d like to mention that both Will and Joan had full time jobs in this period. Will for the whole period. So give me a break. Regardless of time they had to raise, Will still had the highest percentage of in-state contributions, the least personal money donated (by far) and no PAC money. To try to write him off now is just ignorant.

        1. I don’t know Jared all that well, but from what I DO know I’d say he’s got a hell of a regular work schedule. The man runs about five companies and is the superintendent of a multi-campus charter school. Will quit his job back in March or April to campaign/raise money full-time. You have a stronger argument with Joan, but the session ended in early May, no?

          Not that I want to, but I bet if I got the personal schedules of all three, Jared would have put by FAR the least amount of time into this so far.

          1. Will has not quit his job. He still works at the Colorado Conservation Trust. Whether I was wrong or not about Jared, Will is certainly still working. Your information about him quitting is wrong.

            Also, I’d like to see the companies that Polis “runs.” Please.

    1. Oh, right, Will Shafroth. He’s a nice guy.

      Makes you wonder, doesn’t it? Why this unknown environmentalist is coming out of the woodwork to challenge Joan Fitz-Gerald. Why do you think he feels so strongly about stopping her?

      1. I was under the impression that Will Shafroth was running before Joan Fitz-Gerald. How in the world is that challenging Joan? If anything it is the other way around. Why would Joan (and Jared) feel the need to challenge Will who is a good progressive Democrat? Why do they feel so strongly about stopping him? This isn’t her seat. It is Mark Udall’s seat. I don’t think I saw a party memo decreeing that Joan Fitz-Gerald was the heir to CD-2. To challenge Joan he would have to run against her as an incumbent somewhere. Of course some folks already see it that way.

        1. for a lot longer than their official candidacy papers show?

          Joan’s been looking at CD-2 since Udall’s almost-candidacy for Governor.  Jared’s been looking at it since last year at least.

          Will might have had his name in to the SoS first, but he’s hardly been “in the race” the longest.

          1. That means he is challenging Joan? Because she has been “looking” at the seat even since she lost her last congressional race? I don’t get it.

      2. Yes, the race is tighter than previous Line indicated but its not that close… its still JFG’s race to lose. 

        As leader of the state Senate she’s gotten 10x the press that Polis has over the past couple years, generally pretty favorable.  And most people have never heard of Shafroth…

        Wake me up in January — if JFG trails markedly in fund raising then, your line might be close to the truth.

      3. Much more likely that Will’s surprising Q2 fundraising numbers are in part due to Joan (not literally her, but her crew) calculating that another strong Boulder male candidate can only help her. Plus it takes enviro votes away from Jared, cuz Joan ain’t getting ANY of those. It’s very easy to funnel money that way if you want to and have the right connections.

      1. The qualitative comments they used are damning enough to Lamborn’s interests.  Still.  I admit I was hoping they would have taken the “6th CD Line” approach and put the incumbent at odds no better than the most likely challenger’s.  It’s just good seeing Doug having more bad days.  AND, IF CRANK DECLARES, THAT’S THE GREAT DAY TO CHANGE IT TO 5 to 1 with an up arrow for Crank and 6 to 1 with a down arrow for Lamborn.

        On Rayburn, he’s not dismissing himself but is carpetbagging “full-steam-ahead”.  He’s not going to back off even if it means throwing the race to Lamborn again.  He owes no loyalty to the party as he’s not been in the trenches in the political system and, by the same token, the party owes no loyalty to him.  With no bridges to burn when you’ve not built any in the first place, his game is a one shot game–if he wins, it doesn’t matter.  If he loses, he takes his carpetbags and moves on to some other greener pastures and starts again.

    1. I’ve never agreed completely with “The Big Line,” but I can’t find anything to argue about with the current one.  Good job, Pols.

  1. Ken Salazar (D-Mexico) and Udall (D-Boulder) proved their hard left leanings when they voted for an onerous union organizing law, that was blasted in the Denver Post, a big employer.

    This brings Udall down to Schaffer’s level, making the race odds pretty even, imho.

    1. Udall making one pro-union vote definately lowers him to the political level of an intolerant ultra-conservative fringe Republican. Riiiiight.

      1. As I understand it it’s 5 generations as Colorado ranchers but the Salazar roots in what is now the USA go back to before there WAS a USA.  Way before.  Some of Sen. Salazar’s votes and positions have ticked me off, especially the screw the middle class bankruptcy bill, but implying that he isn’t a real American is both ignorant and sleazy.

      2. That makes him D-Mexico. He’s representing the illegals and Mexico, which profits from illegal immigration, not Colorado citizens who pay $30,000-per-year for each illegal in the state.

        1. FAIR estimates there are 144,000 illegal immigrants in Colorado.

          You claim Colorado pays “$30,000 a year” for each illegal immigrant in the state.

          Do you realize that adds up to 42 BILLION dollars? And that Colorado’s total budget is $17 billion?

          What the hell is the matter with you pathetic haters that you can’t even cite a remotely accurate number? Do you realize you have absolutely no credibility? Hay-soos!

          1. that Skeptic is grossly misquoting the Heritage Foundation report that states that each illegal immigrant FAMILY (not individual) costs more taxpayer money than they pay in. I forget their number but it wasn’t anywhere near $30,000…

          2. 144,000 times 30,000 is $4,320,000,000 or 4.3 billion.  So if you’re going to lampoon someone for their “numbers”, don’t put words in their mouth

        1. … back in the 80s when they were running those not-quite-legal wars down in El Salvador, Nicaragua, etc.?  Those countries that are the actual source of many of the illegal immigrants.  It’s not just Mexico, folks, and much of the economic devestation that leads people to emigrate from those countries is the result of US adventurism dedicated to keeping wages low and maximizing profits.  Just look up “United Fruit Company” and “Guatemala”.  Keeping political systems destabilized for decades or centuries is a good way to prevent economic development and the accompanying rise of wages.

  2. Can anyone name a Democratic Congressional Primary anywhere in which all three candidates spent over one million dollars? I cannot. Shafroth, Fitz-Gerald and Polis are all on a pace to spend well over one million each.

      1. Skeptic may be right and  House of Representatives primaries where three candidate each exceed one million dollars in spending may happen all the time.

        Name one or two examples. Two candidates spending a million each happens a lot but three is another matter

        1. The CA 50th actually had 4 R candidates spend over a million…but that was a special election. 

          Other than that, I think the Maryland 8th(?) in 2002 had 3 Dems come really close w/ Van Hollen and Kennedy-Shriver easily over a million and Ira Shapiro at about 900K.

          So yes, there are tons of primaries with 2 candidates spending over a million but almost none with 3 spending over a million at the Congressional level.

            1. First, you can do this research yourself if it’s so interesting.

              http://www.opensecre

              Second, I just said that there are tons with TWO candidates spending a million and none that I can think of with THREE.  As such, I think I just made your point…

              1. CD 2 could be the most expensive Democratic House primary we have seen in a long time anywhere.

                Is Chandler still Angie Paccione’s day to day guy? I hear he is still working for
                Angie but being kept under wraps.

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