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July 06, 2007 08:24 AM UTC

Joan Fitz-Gerald supported the Iraq War

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  • by: WinstonSmith

Recently, donkeydem accused me of being a liar and a “scumbag” because I said in a thread that Joan Fitz-Gerald supported Bush’s war in Iraq and his efforts to overthrow Hussein.

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I said this based on her vote in favor of a resolution entitled: CONCERNING HONORING PRESIDENT BUSH’S LEADERSHIP IN HIS EFFORT TO PROTECT THE UNITED STATES AGAINST SADDAM HUSSEIN. (Full resolution below).

Now, I certainly don’t think that I am lying, nor am I a “scumbag” for bringing it up. There is, as donkeydem pointed out, one single clause in the resolution dealing with supporting our troops…but I cannot see this resolution as anything other than clear support for the President and his goals in Iraq.

I admit that many other Democrats voted for this resolution, just like many Democrats in Congress voted for the war authorization. Alice Madden, though, was one of a handful of Democrats who voted against the resolution even though that position was politically unpopular at the time.

Because donkeydem was apparently unaware of this resolution when he called me a liar repeatedly, I figured I would share it with the rest of you as well. I’m still waiting for an apology from donkeydem…but somehow all I expect to get is spin.

CONCERNING HONORING PRESIDENT BUSH’S LEADERSHIP IN HIS EFFORT TO PROTECT THE UNITED STATES AGAINST SADDAM HUSSEIN.

WHEREAS, The dictatorship of Iraq has continued to develop weapons of mass destruction in violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 1441; and

WHEREAS, Iraq’s dictator, Saddam Hussein, has demonstrated a willingness to use weapons of mass destruction against neighboring nations and the citizens of Iraq; and

WHEREAS, Saddam Hussein threatens the Middle East and the world with the threat to use weapons of mass destruction; and

WHEREAS, Saddam Hussein and his regime maintain a continuing, documented involvement with the global terrorist movement; now, therefore,

Be It Resolved by the Senate of the Sixty-fourth General Assembly of the State of Colorado, the House of Representatives concurring herein:

That the General Assembly expresses its support of President George W. Bush and his cabinet, in cooperation with the United States Congress and the United Nations, for their unwavering determination to either disarm Saddam Hussein or remove him from power, and also expresses its support of the men and women of the United States armed forces for their courage and dedication to this mission.

Be It Further Resolved, That copies of this Joint Resolution be sent to President George W. Bush, Speaker of the House J. Dennis Hastert, Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of State Colin L. Powell, and each member of Colorado’s congressional delegation.

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  2. Man, that last thread did NOT go well for Joan’s supporters.

    The only thing more ridiculous than her people shrieking about how “unfair” and “vicious” the Jared supporters are (while they instigate all the bashing) is the knee-jerk insistence that any negative fact brought to light about Joan is a “lie.” It’s really quite pathetic, and you managed to make them look really stupid.

    Yes, Joan Fitz-Gerald supported the Iraq war by voting for this resolution. She further revealed her ignorance/opportunism regarding foreign policy by supporting a joint statement last year in support of Israel’s disastrous invasion of Lebanon (it’s true, look it up) — an invasion that has now toppled much of the Israeli government and been condemned by hum rights organizations around the world for a high level of civilian casualties and widespread use of cluster munitions. Great job, Joan!

    Yes, Joan Fitz-Gerald tried to use Amendment 41 as a weapon against Jared Polis and with the exception of a few pissed off insiders and lobbyists, it is backfiring.

    There will be more disclosures of this kind–many more. If Joan’s supporters continue with these silly denials and personal attacks on Jared’s private life in response, they will disgust the voters of CD-2 and send Jared to Congress overwhelmingly.

  3. I missed this one but can’t see how this will help her in the primary.  It will be ineresting to see if this becomes a campaign issue.

  4. Lucky for Jared that he wasn’t in a position to vote on any war resolutions.  Unless the CO State School Board took a position on it.  He does say he was against it from the start, though.  If so, then good for him!

    I doubt this resolution vote will help Joan in CD-2, and could quite possible hurt.  I don’t recall Boulder being a hotbed of support for the war.  This could become a major problem for her, given the continuing mess that this war has become and that Bush’s name was specifically in the title of the resolution.

    If I were the Polis team, I’d get busy on “Fitz-Gerald voted for Bush’s war” mailing, emails, etc.

    1. Why not?  Perhaps they understood their charge, and stuck to issues over which they had jurisdiction.  That actually speaks well for the state Board of Ed, unless of course, Jared tried to get a resolution on Iraq before the board, and was unsuccessful.

  5. Like Jared Polis says about himself, Will Shafroth and his family opposed the Iraq war from the beginning. CD-2 is not the type of district that will support someone who flip-flops on an issue like this.

    Why choose Shafroth over Polis then? When Will Shafroth was defending open space in battles with the likes of Doug Bruce, Jared Polis was writing articles FOR the Independence Institute supporting the privatization of the United States Postal Service and advocating a school voucher position similar to that of Bob Schaffer.

    Will Shafroth is the best fit for CD-2 because his personal values truly match up with those of the vast majority of Democratic voters in the district.

  6. In defense of the vote, at the time of said vote, this resolution made much sense to much of the country.

    1. Saddam was in violation of UNSC Res. 1441 by his refusal to provide adequate documentation about his WMD programs.
    2. Saddam did prove willing to use chemical weapons against both Iran and the Kurds.
    3. Saddam did threaten to use his WMDs on the region (if attacked).
    4. Saddam’s regime did support and encourage terrorist acts by paying their families posthumously.
    5. The resolution calls for the support of the President (strong GOP plug here) in co-operation with the United States Congress and the United Nations, for their unwavering determination to either disarm Saddam Hussein or remove him from power.

    It’s a far stretch from this resolution to support of the war itself.

    1. This was after the vote for the war authorization in Congress. This was in the height of the build up to the war. To say that this was anything other than support for the war is silly.

        1. This resolution clearly has wording intended to synergize with the Congressional act.  It also clearly doesn’t refer strictly to a post-invasion stand.

          When was Colorado Senate Joint Resolution 03-016 passed compared to the actual date of invasion?  I can’t find a legislative calendar from back then.

          1. Sorry, I wasn’t following this thread anymore. The resolution was about a month before the actual bombs started falling. Anyone paying attention new war was inevitable at that point.

            Keep in mind that this was about 4 months AFTER the Congressional war authorization vote. People like me were saying that we shouldn’t invade, that it was a bad idea, that Bush was a moron, that Hussein had been in check since the first gulf war. Joan, along with many other Dems, indicated that they believed the President, supported the President, supported his goals including removing Hussein from power. If that isn’t supporting the war, I don’t know what is. Clearly everyone voting in support of the war 4 months prior in Congress supported these same things. Why does it make it ok to happen later?

            1. I was against the war from the start.  I knew things didn’t add up.  But I don’t fault other people if they didn’t see it that way; there was a lot of mis-information out there and reasonable people could see different things at the time.

              The resolution in question was not a “support the war” resolution any more than the Congressional resolution was.  In fact, it’s almost an exact duplicate of the Congressional resolution – UN support and all.  President Bush reneged on the contract supported by this resolution and by the one in Congress; he did not work in conjunction with the UN or with Congress any more than appearances required.  He specifically bypassed the UN and Congress when issuing the order to start the campaign; one might even say that he never had proper authorization to start this war based on those conditions.

              But that doesn’t make the resolution any different than it appears – a partisan, broadly worded, hard-to-disagree-with, had-no-practical-effect, non-binding resolution that was designed to elicit campaign slogan responses.

              And that’s all you’re using it for.

              1. If you agree that this was essentially a non-binding, but nonetheless official version of the Congressional war authorization…then I don’t think we are in disagreement about that. We just disagree to what supporting that type of resolution means. There was a LOT of mis-information at the time. I wouldn’t expect people not paying close attention to catch all the BS that was floating around.

                My point, is that Joan Fitz-Gerald WAS paying attention. In fact she was forced to take a position on it with this vote. She bought into the BS hook, line, and sinker. What is to say that next time something like this happens (and mis-information always happens in politics) she won’t fall for it then?

                Remember that Mark Udall and Diana DeGette voted against the congressional authorization and Alice Madden voted against the state resolution. In other words, Democrats that were paying attention to the very important event (and weren’t just blindly following polls) knew better. Joan Fitz-Gerald should have known better as well. The fact that she didn’t concerns me about her future decision making abilities in tough situations.

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