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who is planting this crap?
Obviously so deep and logical thinking on politics is way above my head!
More evidence that the Dem presence in CO will be here for a long time! This is great. Good luck, Ultimate Politics!
The punchline for Ultimate Politics is “Not left or right, but Right or Wrong!”
Isn’t that the tagline of the Peter Boyles show?
Perhaps we have an opportunity to hear another point of view. Let’s give it a try.
needs to post something beyond the default text you get when the blog is first defined. Unless they are waiting to figure out what their point of view is.
It ain’t that hard.
I hate to be cynical but when two people register today, and their first and only posts are to plug this new radio show, it smacks of marketing rather than honest posting.
I hope ashlarah and tiger.1801 end up being real posters with real viewpoints to express here but their posts remind me of Herb Rubenstein’s shills from the CD7 Dem primary last year.
participate. I am on Kos and MyDD, DU often. I can see attacking me if I was a troll, but just because I haven’t posted before?
I am looking for a good CO political blog where I can relax and talk politics. Guess I will keep looking.
BTW, nobody tells me what to say. WTG, mighty Aristotle, that is, if you just like to talk to yourself.
..which is certainly worth noting.
Although we get pretty testy around here, you sure are starting out with a chip on your shoulder. Makes me wonder if he isn’t correct.
Like parsing said, I was making an observation. I have seen this sort of thing before and it’s kind of disappointing (especially with such an unwarranted hostile reaction) because I come here to engage, not be advertised to. But to each his / her own.
Oh c’mon, you gotta be heartier than that to survive blogland. Pull up a chair, pour a stiff drink, and start posting. Our bark is worse than our byte:)
long enough to recognize Aristotle: there is an Aristotle on every blog. I have lost patience with anyone that tries to shut someone else down without really good cause. Sometimes I get sick of the barking, and if Aristotle is going to behave that way to newbies, he is going to have to be prepared for the occasional one that will bite.
The reason I lurk rather than post here is that I moved back to CO nearly three years ago after a long absence. The political landscape had changed greatly. I am familiar with national politics and most of the politics in my county, but I am still putting the pieces together on CO state politics. So, I thought this blog would be a good place to start making the picture whole.
I posted on this thread because one of the things that bothers me most these days is the stranglehold MSM has on our thinking. I am, therefore, thrilled there is another voice to counteract that.
That is also the reason I find blogs attractive. I hope they will save our democracy by providing a place to exchange information beyond the MSM filter and for discussion.
As to the show about which this thread was started, I believe it added something that is otherwise missing. I met the two Iraq vets that discussed the war at a peace rally recently, but did not hear then what they had to say today.
The same with the woman that called in from Military Families Speak Out. She spoke at another peace rally, I believe, but what she had to say this morning added much to that.
I don’t care upon which side of the political spectrum you fall, it is alarming that our military would bring a brigade back from Afghanistan only to immediately return them to Afghanistan within 72 hours, before many had even had a chance to see their families. Alarming and heartbreaking. I knew before the program this morning that our military was stretched too thin and needs to be rebuilt. That is now more real to me.
You sure got me wrong. Stick around, you’ll see.
But, I think you also have me wrong.
I am, usually, more patient. I posted here after hours of blogging elsewhere.
I will probably do more lurking than posting here for awhile longer except maybe on national issues. I still have a ways to go putting CO politics together.
I really didn’t mean to single you out or anything like that. So I apologize for that. We just see that sort of thing every now and then. It happened a lot during the primary cycle last year and it was just so insulting to our intelligence that it’s kinda made me vigilant for people trying to pull the wool over the eyes. (The other person, tiger.1801, has yet to put in another appearance – could mean nothing, but we’ll see…)
This site is a good place to get your bearings. I lived out of state for 8 years, came back less than 2 years ago. It helped me figure out what’s going on although I’m far from expert on the subject. (I didn’t pick the blog name Aristotle because I think I’m so smart or knowledgeable.) But there are national issue debates too, and philosophical type of debates which are more my forte.
Anyway, let this be my welcome to the happy happy coloradopols family.
I look forward to talking with you again on other threads.
Before returning to CO, I lived in WA state and AZ. In both places I had just begun to get my political bearings when we had to move. I hope to get atuned more quickly this time.
My time out of Colorado was all in Seattle.
and Auburn for 10 years. I have to admit is was a pretty place, but the clouds, hills and trees made me claustrophobic.
I like being able to see a long way here in Colorado. And the sky is higher.
Even on programming blogs I have seen people occasionally shut others down without clear cause. On political blogs it seems to happen regularly.
With that said – I do not recall Aristotle having done so. I think it was a very legit observation. But stick around and post on other subjects and you will easily prove him wrong.
but what is MSM and why does it have a stranglehold on our thinking?
Main Stream Media.
As to why, there are a lot of possible answers and probably all have a kernel of truth. Such as General Electric owning, I forget which TV network. GE probably has more income from defense matters that any other company than actual airplane makers. Now, do you think GE will report on anti-war activities, on soldiers trying to get a CO discharge? Not hardly.
Think of the famous Downing Street memo. It took months of bloggers on the net to get this into the MSM, where it had a lifespan of a day or two. A smoking gun that should have impeached GB, but no,……on to Paris Hilton.
of large numbers of media outlets is a problem, whether it is Disney, GE, Times Warner or Murdoch. With AP and UPI ubiquitous in both print and online, it is hard to find some genuinely researched reports.
It takes persistence for bloggers to get through that MSM filter. Sometimes it is discouraging. I have been doing some citizen journalism. It doesn’t get a lot of attention, but the few reports I have done are there for anyone that searches.
My hope is that citizen journalism becomes common place (it isn’t too hard, you just need a camera, a computer and internet connection). The internet is exciting now, like Ben Franklin’s printing press. When enough people realize that they have other sources of information, MSM will have to be more careful.
I have a bias on my reports. I am transparent, though, about my reporting. I am clearly advocating that we leave Iraq. My reports on John Edwards are also supportive, but the speech videos are unedited (except for having to segment the speeches for YouTube).
I will probably try other videos that are edited for purposes of persuasion – editorial video pieces. For now, I have just wanted to make an edited source of speeches available.
I don’t mind when I see this in other CJ reports. It is the pretense at balance in MSM and the slickness that bothers me.
People going about their business thinking they live in a current events reality. Yeah, right.
I miss Rubenstein’s shills. They were an upbeat bunch.
I remember their typical posts – screen names like “colorado mom” or some such thing and saying “I think Herb is the only one who will try to end the war. Everyone I talk to is talking about him.” Nice tone, but utter crap – he never polled better than 10% and finished right around there in the primary.
Well, actually now that I think about it, the reason those posts were so irritating is that they read exactly like mailer copy. No one ever writes or talks like that. But at least there was none of the nastiness like the Lamm and Perlmutter shills got into.
“swell” and “neato”? Maybe I’m just imagining that part.
But then again they might have had one upbeat shill who posted that way and one staid shill who posted the junk that got under my skin.