"Let The Crap Flow," Says Weld County Jury

21 thoughts on ““Let The Crap Flow,” Says Weld County Jury”

1. a truck load of manure be free speach also?

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   1. the volume you know 🙂

      Seriously – this is ridiculous. I dislike MM as much as anyone else but this is over the line.

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2. I am no fan of Musgrave–but being allowed to leave dog sht on her door is ok because of her job? Aren’t politicians still people? What’s next? Her beliefs may be a little wacko, but her district elected her—I don’t see home attacking her property can then be seen as free speech. What is she had a small child who was the first to encounter that? Is it ok then because her mother is a politician and we can do/say whatever we want to them?

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   1. It was her campaign office-not her home-and if a kid has never seen dog poop-well. Take it for what it was-free speech and a good laugh. And yes-Musgrave Is a Public figure and is subject to a little more than normal people-that comes with the territory.

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      1. It was a bad decision.  Leaving sh*t at her campaign office isn’t speech.  Saying she’s full of sh*t is (it is also correct, but that isn’t my point here).

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         1. So Marylin is allowed to leave crap at someone’s home, but they shouldn’t be allowed to leave it at her campaign office?  What if someone’s kid was the first to find the Musgrave campaign mailer?

            (This is a joke; don’t take it too seriously.)

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         2. But wasn’t that concidered free speech.

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      2. campaign office is better than the home–my bad. But I still think this kind of stuff is a no-no.

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   2. They are 100% correct about their opinion.

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3. Sorry, I couldn’t help myself.  If the worst thing that happens during a campaign involves dog poop on a door step, consider yourself lucky.  This trial was a waste of taxpayer dollars.

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   1. If we say these “little things” are ok, then what comes next. Some always push the envelope.

      I think it was a very bad decision – we need to keep politics a war of words and ideas.

      – dave

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4. This was a silly case that from the get go Musgrave’s people tried to use politically. DA Ken Buck kept it political. The jury probably “smelled” payback, and responded accordingly.

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   But, Weld County DA Ken Buck spent a lot of time and energy prosecuting this case, a lowly, crap-misdemeanor.  He sicked one of his top (murder-death-kill) deputies on the case, as well as a newby attorney.  He took two days of court time, and two days time of Detective Heck, the investigating officer who called the case a lot of “crap about crap.” How much time was this crime worth both in durable goods (cool diagrams, etc.) and man-hours?

   What was Mr. Buck’s connection to Guy Short who allegedly called the police in to investigate?  Did Mr. Buck’s role as Ms. Musgrave’s campaign chairman factor into this at all?  Most importantly, why did Mr. Buck claim “lack of manpower” when refusing to investigate fraudulent claims made by Mr. David Owen and Trailhead about Rep. Jim Riesberg last fall, but then spend any amount of time and money chasing a dog doo donator?

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   1. than I feel better about the decision.

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         1. You have a good point – if they made this big a deal out of it, then good for the jury slapping them down.

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      2. Jury nullification.

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   2. Thanks for the info Harold. It shows the danger of mixing politics and law. Stupid pet tricks and political shenanigans should stay outside of the legal system where we depend on unbiased and rational thought (the opposite of politics?).

      These events tend to self regulate. Seems that MM got a bit of sympathy momentum during the campaign from those that thought this was over the line. Who was it that had their campaign HQ vandalized? R O’donnell? He got some sympathy. Obviously not enough.

      The Duke lacrosse fiasco is a good example of the destruction that results from politics entering the courts.

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5. Look for a lot more juvenile pranks like this from both sides, as the campaigns heat up next year.

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   1. Having spent a good deal of time around Stan Matsunaka’s Greeley HQ (both campaigns)I can tell you that Musgrave’s supporters subjected it to much worse. Including, but not limited to, vandalism. Most of it harmless save the slashed tires. To my knowlege the authorities were never involved. We just considered the scource, cleaned the mess and went about the task of trying to win.

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6. you are lower than dog shit-deal with it MM

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   1. sounds like it was an insult to the poor dog that had to do his do-do.

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