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December 29, 2022 12:10 AM UTC

Thursday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“It’s not that I’m so smart, it’s just that I stay with problems longer.”

–Albert Einstein

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    1. That’s actually not correct. Social Security still uses the Department of Labor’s Dictionary of Occupational Titles that has had some updates. The DOT, however, is considered generally obsolete. There are more recent publications such as county business patterns for the various states.

      Last time I checked this was in summer, 2021, to confirm a job title & job description for a non-profit I was doing some work for. Do a browser inquiry for the DOL DOT (spelled out completely) and you should find more current information.

    1. I was just coming to post about this. This recount throws out the window what I always say about recounts: that they don't change many vote totals. This one changed over 200 votes!

      It makes me question they original counting process. (I don't know AZ's procedures.)

      1. I had the same response. That’s 623 more total votes than were counted for Mayes and Hamadeh in the canvass. 507 of those were from Pinal County (presently run by Republicans I assume, R58/D41) where Hamadeh gained 392 votes and Mayes gained 115

        From Wikipedia:

        Pinal voters now trend more Republican than traditionally conservative Maricopa County, and it has become a safely Republican county. Donald Trump carried the county by the second-largest margin for a Republican since statehood.

        BTW, 200 is 0.0008% of the total statewide vote. 

        1. Apache County also had a pretty substantial discrepancy. Mayes gained 59 votes and Hamadeh gained 13, out of 26,424 total votes for the two candidates. 

  4. Don't forget: Santos created many of his fake biographical details on a laptop.

    You know who else had a laptop? Yep, Hunter Biden.

    Here, fixed it for you, George (or whoever you are)

  6. As this continues to intrigue people, there are more and more elements emerging.  SOME may be criminal — others are "free speech" that probably are not matters for criminal or civil court action, or even FEC action. 

    AP's headline this afternoon: 

    Time of triumph for GOP turns into ‘distraction’ with Santos

    an ethics complaint may end up being the least of Santos’ problems.

    Federal prosecutors in New York have started to examine Santos’ background and his financial dealings, a person familiar with the matter said Thursday…. The district attorney in Nassau County, New York, announced on Wednesday an investigation into the fabrications Santos made while campaigning to represent the district,

    And of course, wanna-be Speaker McCarthy isn't speaking.

          1. Yeah, I saw that after I mentioned it. Too bad.

            However, the concept of recalling a member of Congress has not been tried yet. Some states (including Colorado) do have provisions for it on their books. But there is a legal question if such provisions are constitutional. No case has been tried yet to answer that question. There exist legal opinions by think tanks and attorneys general going both directions.

            Perhaps we should try to recall Boebert (on the grounds it is now obvious she is a Russian operative) to test the constitutionality.

            All that aside, New York does not have provisions for recall at all, so for Santos it is a moot point.

            1. Congressional Research Service says Federal elected officials are not subject to recall.    https://www.everycrsreport.com/reports/RL30016.html

              As to removal by recall, the United States Constitution does not provide for nor authorize the recall of United States officers such as Senators, Representatives, or the President or Vice President, and thus no Member of Congress has ever been recalled in the history of the United States. The recall of Members was considered during the time of the drafting of the federal Constitution in 1787, but no such provisions were included in the final version sent to the states for ratification, and the specific drafting and ratifying debates indicate an express understanding of the framers and ratifiers that no right or power to recall a Senator or Representative in Congress exists under the Constitution. Although the Supreme Court has not needed to directly address the subject of recall of Members of Congress, other Supreme Court decisions, as well as the weight of other judicial and administrative decisions, rulings, and opinions, indicate that (1) the right to remove a Member of Congress before the expiration of his or her constitutionally established term of office is one which resides exclusively in each house of Congress as expressly delegated in the expulsion clause of the United States Constitution, and (2) the length and number of the terms of office for federal officials, established and agreed upon by the states in the Constitution creating that federal government, may not be unilaterally changed by an individual state, such as through the enactment of a recall provision or a term limitation for a United States Senator or Representative. Under Supreme Court constitutional interpretation, since individual states never had the original sovereign authority to unilaterally change the terms and conditions of service of federal officials agreed to and established in the Constitution, such a power could not be “reserved” under the Tenth Amendment. Even the dissenters in the Supreme Court decision on the Tenth Amendment and term limits, who would have found a “reserved” authority in the states regarding “qualifications” of Members of Congress, conceded that the exclusive authority to remove a sitting Member is delegated to each house in the expulsion clause of the Constitution, and that with respect to “a power of recall … the Framers denied to the States [such power] when they specified the terms of Members of Congress.”

               

  7. Here are some links to about the restaurant. Still would like to hear from a local.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/lauren-boeberts-former-gun-themed-restaurant-replaced-by-mexican-restaurant-2022-12

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/boebert-mexican-restaurant/

    https://www.politicalflare.com/2022/12/lauren-boeberts-gun-themed-restaurant-is-being-replaced-by-a-mexican-restaurant-and-people-are-loving-it/

    https://occupydemocrats.com/2022/12/26/no-tacos-for-you-colorado-mexican-restaurant-replaces-lauren-boeberts-gun-themed-failure/

        1. Barnes, clearly you don’t know what a margin call is, since you chose to promote the wsj instead of defining the term.  ( The condescending mansplaining was just gravy- I get it).
          So since I had more time to research this evening, let me enlighten you.

          The original story was not in Barron’s, which is behind a paywall, but in fintel, quoted:

          A margin call is triggered when the value of the collateral securing the loan falls below an agreed ratio, and more cash or stock needs to go to the lender to maintain the account in balance.

          The lender makes a margin call to protect itself from the risk of the investor defaulting on the loan.

          Or, as LBPoS wrote, Musk will have to pony up a lot of cash.

          So now you know. You’re welcome. 

           

            1. I'm late today and just seeing this. I actually did know the answer. When I was in high school, our American history teacher had us play a stock market game for a week so we'd really grok the Crash of '29. 

  9. Today's most thoughtful post anywhere on the internet: Big Tech Facing Creative Disruption

    A couple of years ago we were worried big tech had a forever monopoly. Now…

    Over the past 30 years we’ve seen big tech grow to dominance and then a worry that they have become this set of unbreakable monopolies. And yet now we’re seeing many of them facing the possibility of being displaced.

  10. From Tina Nguyen @ Puck

    Among the resentments that threatens to blow up more publicly is the feud quietly simmering between Greene and Lauren Boebert—a long-gestating mutual loathing that’s been the talk of the MAGA school cafeteria for months. “They hate each other. It is like giggling vitriol,” a G.O.P. activist with ties to the Freedom Caucus told me. (Representatives for their offices didn’t respond to requests for comment.)

    1. ‘Puck’ is a pay site. The Greene-Boebert feud can be tracked on Yahoo News. Greene is also now feuding with Tulsi Gabbard over her dismantling of George Santos on Fox News.

        1. David, I pay $15.99 per month for the Denver Post online. I pay for subscriptions to print editions of The Economist, Washington Examiner, National Review,  Mother Jones,  The Week, and Wired. I think that is sufficient. 

          1. To re-balance your portfolio, I would drop National Review & Mother Jones, and add either WaPo or NYT, and TPM. The Colorado Sun is increasingly valuable as great news source.

            Talking Points Memo is the best investigative news site going. Fortunately Vox.com has the best long-form articles aside from The Atlantic, but it is free.

            I finally dropped the Times after one too many idiotic "balance" article, and far too many "beat sweeteners"

            1. I was reminded today that I also get Reason, when the current issue arrived at my p.o. box. 

              I had the Times for a couple years, but seldom read the stuff. I was real fortunate to get a competent person when I called in to cancel. No more out of state newspapers. I like the Sun. But to get the reporters I want; like Jason Blevins; the cost would have exceeded what I pay for the Post when I last checked.

              I like the current mix and not inclined to switch.

              1. Banger, If you pay for the Denver Post, you have full digital access to the Washington Post. Makes sense, now that so much of the D. Post’s content is syndicated from there and the N.YT.

      1. I got to know a beautiful stripper in Casper Wyoming, back in the eighties. I was singing at a place called, "the Sage Club".

        Such a fond memory…of her…not the bar.😏😄

  12. This may be the best thing on the interwebs today. If you didn’t watch Greta tackle Tate’s small dick energy on Twitter, the guy today is understanding that “karma can be a bitch”…

    ‘Toxic’ influencer Andrew Tate is arrested in human trafficking raid at his luxury villa in Romania after PIZZA BOX in his smug video clap-back at Greta Thunberg gave away his location

    Andrew Tate has previously boasted to his followers that ’40 percent’ of the reason he moved to Romania was because the police were less likely to pursue any sexual assault allegations against him.  

     

    1. Musty is still searching for that one true issue that will make people vote for Republicans again. It wasn’t guns, except for that tiny minority that has huge arsenals that they think  Pelosi is coming for. It wasn’t abortion, cause most Republican women need abortions at some point in their lives, like everyone else. Plus they don’t actually care about real, as opposed to hypothetical, babies.

      Fear of blurring gender lines hasn’t proved to be a vote-getter, either, with most people knowing a gender-bender of some variety.

      Musty will have to adapt her messaging to ginning up fear of brown people taking over. That seems to be the main talking point left for Republican operatives.

      1. What she really means is re-thinking how they package a 'sale' to the sane middle. Something just believable enough it can grab a few votes, enough for them to reclaim power and then go on about ignoring the overwhelming majority that rejects their (faux) pro-life ideology. 

        "When someone shows you who you are, believe them the first time" 

        ~Maya Angelou

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