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June 24, 2022 11:36 PM UTC

Weekend Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“Today’s tactical victory does not guarantee tomorrow’s strategic success.”

–Gen. Peter Pace

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  2. The fascist evangelical dog finally caught the car yesterday – and now is going to get dragged, if young people in particular get up and vote to remove anti-liberty Republicans who say the states cannot restrain guns but can control women. Thomas’ dog whistle about  taking away rights to contraceptives and gay marriage was a peculiar strategic error – but that was probably the section Ginni wrote. 

    2. The sooner we begin to focus on the real enemy, the sooner we win.

      The enemy is Christian Patriarchy. The theocrats are pervasive in the MAGAverse, and these latest circumstances are just part of a very long term plan.

      It is the devout wish of the Neo-Christian, corporate alliance to create a religious state, not unlike the Taliban or ISIS. Religious leaders calling the shots…only True Believers in positions of power. The King James version of the Christian Bible as Constitution.

      They are finally revealed.

       They have played their hand.

      1. The enemy has gone way beond Christian Patriarchy. That was the 1980's assimilation. Since then the GOP had acquired the Tea Party, the Randroids, the militant anti-government crowd, and whatever other bigots it hadn't previously round up. Then it sucked in the QAnon crowd.

        It's gotten to the point that any random kook with any random belief system can put forward any random anti-Democratic conspiracy and get cognitive dissonance buy-in from the whole mob.

          1. I agree. It's all about the money. Religion and other conspiracies are useful to keep the masses in line. But the bottom line is wealth and the power it buys.

        2. This must be what they meant about that "big tent". If it gets any more crowded in there, some of them will wind up with their asses exposed to the elements.

      2. Duke, so right. And important to recognize the true impact of what PR references – the so-called-Christian Patriarchy has ARMED itself with those happy to use weapons, violence, and insanity to achieve and enforce the new autocracy – Proud Boys, Oathkeepers, cult members, etc. If folks don't vote this year – forget 2024 – no matter how difficult it will be in some jurisdictions to exercise your right to vote, they can kiss this country goodbye. I wonder if Canada is doing some planning to prepare for refugees from the U.S.

    3. "Thomas’ dog whistle about taking away rights to contraceptives and gay marriage was a peculiar strategic error"

      Indeed. Why he (and/or his nut case wife) saw the need to include that gratuitous remark is peculiar.

      Maybe he felt he needed to put Kavanaugh and Alito on notice that this decision was not necessarily a single rescission of a recognized constitutional right. Not that anything Kavanaugh says has any credibility.

       

      1. You left out Gorsuch. It will be interesting to see how he figures in, going forward. Gorsuch has proven himself to be a good friend of Native American sovereign rights. Wonder how he'd react when the first anti-contraceptives case arrives at the SCOTUS in a couple years.

  5. Today is our wedding anniversary.  Fifty four years.  Two kids, two grandkids and numerous furballs.

    Best wishes to our Online friends and foes and confusion to the Fascist Imbecile Front!

    1. Congratulations to you and yours, V!  Nice to have some good news anytime, but especially now.  Wishing you the best for many years to come, and looking forward to your comments and insights in this most of interesting of forums.

       

      1. Thank you all so much.  Growing old is not advisable as a solitary journey.

        And a special shout-out to not a skinny cook and Karen, who have nurtured a long-term, loving relationship in the face of hostile bullies.

  7. I just checked out the website for one of my state rep candidates:  Dede Wagner.

    Looks like she is a MAGA True Believer who has been endorsed by both Nevilles and Tim Leonard (didn't go to jail for contempt?).

    She is also very disturbed about the "perverted LGBTQ sex education which the progressives are indoctrinating our children with" and accuses Colin Larson of being "the one Republican in the House who votes the most with the Socialist DEMs." (There are a number of things wrong with that sentence, but I digress.)

    She also believes that "all men are created equal." Nothing about cis-gendered women or non-binary folk. 

    She is mostly silent on reproductive choice (a smart position in a state like Colorado) but trashes Larson for his 77% score from Planned Parenthood while he claims to be pro-life.

  10. This is Pridefest weekend in Denver, as it is in Oslo Norway, Was very saddened to read that a nutcase with a gun went on a rampage in a popular gay bar in Oslo. Last I heard 2 dead and 20 injured. 

    The war against hate never ends.

  12. Interesting peek at what’s happening in CD 3.

    Secretary of State daily report of State Primary Ballots Returned: June 24, 2022

    I compared the Unaffiliated voting pattern statewide and in CD 3.  Of those turned in and processed:

    State Unaffiliated Primary Ballots Returned: June 24, 2022

    ……………………..Dem………Rep

    Statewide # .. .62,339……80,332

    Statewide % .. .43.69% .. .56.31%

    CD 3 # ……….. .4,960. .. ….19,500

    CD 3 %. …… .20.28%. .. .79.72%

    Seems like a sizeable surge of Unaffiliated voters choosing to vote in the Republican primary.

        1. There are some (as yet an unknown number) who registered and voted in previous Democratic primaries, but in 2022 decided to become Unaffiliated in order to have access to a Republican primary ballot. 

          Detailed analysis will be possible AFTER results are known.  But there is a possibility that embarrassed or "establishment" Republicans, appalled former Republicans who moved out after January 6 and became Unaffiliated, and strategic Democrats who temporarily shifted their registrations to Unaffiliated will vote for Bim Boebert to join Madison Crawford as a flash in the pan MAGA star.

  13. History of the Supreme Court by Ian Milhiser at Vox.

    It’s not surprising that an institution made up entirely of elite lawyers, who are immune from political accountability and cannot be fired, tends to protect people who are already powerful and cast a much more skeptical eye on people who are marginalized because of their race, gender, or class. Dred Scott is widely recognized as the worst decision in the Court’s history, but it began a nearly century-long trend of Supreme Court decisions preserving white supremacy and relegating workers into destitution — a history that is glossed over in most American civics classes.

    The American people ratified three constitutional amendments — the 13th, 14th, and 15th — to eradicate Dred Scott and ensure that Black Americans would enjoy, in the 14th Amendment’s words, all of the “privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States.”

    But then the Court spent the next three decades largely dismantling these three amendments.

    Just 10 years after the Civil War, the Supreme Court handed down United States v. Cruikshank (1875), a decision favoring a white supremacist mob that armed itself with guns and cannons to kill a rival Black militia defending its right to self-governance. Black people, the Court held in Cruikshank, “must look to the States” to protect civil rights such as the right to peacefully assemble — a decision that should send a chill down the spine of anyone familiar with the history of the Jim Crow South.

    The culmination of this age of white supremacist jurisprudence was Plessy v. Ferguson (1896), which blessed the idea of “separate but equal.” Plessy remained good law for nearly six decades after it was decided.

    After decisions like Plessy effectively dismantled the Reconstruction Amendments’ promise of racial equality, the Court spent the next 40 years transforming the 14th Amendment into a bludgeon to be used against labor. 

    This was the age of decisions like Lochner v. New York (1905), which struck down a New York law preventing bakery owners from overworking their workers. It was also the age of decisions like Adkins v. Children’s Hospital (1923), which struck down minimum wage laws, and Adair v. United States (1908), which prohibited lawmakers from protecting the right to unionize.

    The logic of decisions like Lochner is that the 14th Amendment’s language providing that no state may “deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law” created a “right to contract.” And that this supposed right prohibited the government from invalidating exploitative labor contracts that forced workers to labor for long hours with little pay.

  14. So…

    Roe v Wade is history. 

    Now the Evangelical Army, the Catholic Establishment, and their myriad troops have won their victory. 

    They will celebrate, then turn themselves toward their next target. They are not done.

    This is not about babies. This is about power.

    1. For a change, Duke, you don’t go far enough.

      Overturning Roe is about the imposition of foreign law on the country; Catholic dogma as promulgated by the Vatican and adhered to by some of the far right evangelical groups.

      Catholic dogma forbids any kind of contraception and encourages abstinence; the so-called “rhythm method.” Dogma also considers homosexual “behavior” as being immoral (even though it’s genetic, and not necessarily a choice). 

      Indeed, they are not done and the words of Justice Thomas foretell a possible future. For now, the most important action is to protect Colorado.

      Our own resident religious nutcases have plans, of that I am certain. Wanting to know some plans is the main reason I’ve never un-subscribed from the Centennial Institute’s emails, which I found myself on when I attended part of the Western Conservative Summit a few years ago. 

    1. "Sixteen kooks??" Personally, I like the picture of the four women holding the yellow signs at the state line. That picture needs to be shared far and wide.

  17. Not a Catholic, but leery of some of the anti-Catholic scapegoating I see in response to SCOTUS' abortion ban. Catholic justices make a perfect smokescreen for propertied interests, just as they did in the early Church when Roman property rights were at stake before the new Faith.

    The issue here is protecting PATERNAL inheritance, as it always has been, and you always see it rise when an aristocracy is threatened. Look to the money that made this happen, not the ideology. Ideology never wins the day historically without money.

    1. Meiner, I for one am not “scapegoating” anyone. I was born & raised Catholic; even spent my freshman year of high school in a monastery studying to be a priest. The moral upbringing was good, but the hierarchy doesn’t practice it. If you want to learn more about the moral depravity of the church, read “Absolute Monarchs,” by the late English historian John Julius Norwich.

      The enemy here is the ordained hierarchy. Studies & polling that I’ve seen for years reveal about 1 in 4 Catholic women of child-bearing age has gotten an abortion. Around 80% of the same women use artificial contraception. The bishops can’t control their own flocks, so they try to control others.

      1. One interesting study was just covered by a Daily Kos writer:

        Christian abortion alternative organization does study: Results not what they were expecting.

        In one study, Pew Research tells us that in the U.S., Christianity has been on the decline, and in 2015, 70% of Americans identified as Christian. In that same year, a Christian abortion alternative network, Care Net, commissioned an abortion study performed by Lifeway Research, a Christian research organization. Their findings? Not what one would expect.

        In 2015, 70% of abortions were performed on Christian women, the exact same percentage as Americans who identify as Christians.

        The survey was not exclusive to Roman Catholics.  Actually, it focused on women who said they had terminated a pregnancy

        • This nationally balanced sample was screened to only include those women who indicated that had ever had a pregnancy termination/abortion medical procedure
        • The completed sample is 1,038 surveys

        Though old (2014 publication), Guttmacher Institute published a study that found

        • Many abortion patients reported a religious affiliation—24% were Catholic, 17% were mainline Protestant, 13% were evangelical Protestant and 8% identified with some other religion. Thirty-eight percent of patients had no religious affiliation. 

        I can't find a statistic on women's religious affiliations in 2014 (or nearby years).  My impression or reaction:  Those numbers seem a close match to proportions of religious affiliations for women for Catholic, mainline Protestant, and "other,"  It seems low on Evangelicals and high on "no religious affiliation."

  18. Great Pridefest ar Civic Center today. Thousands, easily, in the crowd. All peaceful- good security- this was the first time I had to have my backpack screened at one of these events. Dozens of cops at every entrance or intersection, so no opportunity for cowards to plow into crowds with their vehicles. 

  19. Official it is.  Avs win game 6, 2-1, to capure Stanley Cup.

    Okay, Marx was wrong.  Sports are the opiate of the people.

    But how sweet it is!

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