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August 27, 2011 02:44 AM UTC

Irene open thread

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  • by: MADCO

(Is that 2012 or Deep Impact? – promoted by Colorado Pols)

I’m looking forward to see the tea party signs that say “Keep Yer Gov’t Hands Off My Disaster Relief”

Isawthismoviebefore

Mayor of New York has ordered evacuation.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t…

“We should be like 1900; we should be like 1940, 1950, 1960,” (Ron) Paul said. “I live on the Gulf Coast; we deal with hurricanes all the time. Galveston is in my district.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com…

And we should all ride horses or walk. And chew tobaccy. And order our heroin from the Sears catalogue.

GOTP leadership wants spending cuts to offset any disaster aid.

But, Cantor added, “the federal government does have a role in situations like this. When there’s a disaster there’s an appropriate federal role and we will find the monies. But we’ve had discussions about these things before and those monies will be offset with appropriate savings or cost-cutting elsewhere in order to meet the priority of the federal government’s role in a situation like this.”

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com…

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20 thoughts on “Irene open thread

  1. Last year a small earthquake and the hottest summer (almost). This year, the hottest summer (almost) and a bigger earthquake. Now a hurricane. I miss sitting through a blizzard.

    Some of you might remember I was a Red Cross volunteer in Denver. Here I am the same, only getting busier. Last week was an apartment fire; this week we had an earthquake, I spent yesterday at the shelter we have set up for those displaced from their apartments.

    I am on standby for activation for Irene. I will either be driving around in a Red Cross emergency vehicle or helping in a shelter. I do know I will be doing something though.

    The USDA sent out an e-mail to let us know that if Irene causes damage that prevents us from making it into work, or the office is damaged we were to take our laptops home along with work for Monday. The success of that happy thought depends on having power and communications. The power company has been telling everybody and anybody who will listen that they expect the power to be out for a long time. Nice.

    It is about 8 pm EDT and the first bands of Irene clouds are over head.  My boat search this weekend will be more of wondering if anyone is inside the hull – under water. At least I will have a good idea of which boats can survive a tropical storm/hurricane on Chesapeake Bay.

    Did you know? The Republicans have cut earthquake and hurricane funding? eh? And they are going to not fund a replacement satellite for the weather service either?

  2. Like Pam, I’ve also left Colorado and all the blessings of its temperate weather behind. As a lifelong Coloradan, I’ve never really had to deal with extreme climate situations; sure we had the occasional blizzard or drought, but never something on the scale of a hurricane or tornado.

    Unlike Pam, I’m not volunteering for the Red Cross. That means that my preparation for Irene has consisted, more or less, of buying several plastic jugs which can be filled with water. I’ve also stocked up on bread, cereals, crackers, and everything else which won’t perish if the power to the refrigerator goes out.

    I live in the Tenleytown neighborhood of Northwest Washington, DC. It’s a very wealthy area, known affectionately as “caucasia” by those the city over. Still, even in an area notable for its prim and proper wealth and stodgniess, you can sense a little panic. The ACE Hardware store in my building sold out of flashlights, batteries, and wood paneling yesterday morning. The local Safeway had an employee standing next to the bottled water aisle making sure no fights broke out over something as simple as water. Even at Whole Foods, a bastion of wealthy aloofness, checkout lines were backed up deep into the aisles with shopping carts filled with Fiji water and Almond Milk. All the trappings for a delightful little dinner party, really, with Irene as the guest of honor.

    I can’t say I’m panicking because of the hurricane; we’re too far inland and my neighborhood is at DC’s tallest point. I am, however, a little nervous that everybody else is panicking quite so much. No matter how this hurricane hits the city, this kind of primal self-preservation is an indicator of just how bad things might get in the wake of Hurricane Irene.  

    1. Tides for New York (The Battery) starting with August 26, 2011.

      Day        High      Tide  Height   Sunrise    Moon  Time      % Moon

                /Low      Time    Feet    Sunset                    Visible

      F   26      Low  12:41 AM     0.5   6:17 AM    Rise  3:18 AM      13

         26     High   6:34 AM     4.4   7:38 PM     Set  5:53 PM

         26      Low  12:40 PM     0.5

         26     High   6:42 PM     5.4

      Sa  27      Low   1:28 AM     0.1   6:18 AM    Rise  4:29 AM      6

         27     High   7:22 AM     4.9   7:37 PM     Set  6:29 PM

         27      Low   1:32 PM     0.1

         27     High   7:30 PM     5.6

      Su  28      Low   2:14 AM    -0.2   6:19 AM    Rise  5:42 AM      2

         28     High   8:07 AM     5.3   7:35 PM     Set  7:02 PM

      http://www.saltwatertides.com/

  3. … in around 1900, when there was no official policy/handling of disaster prep/relief?

    Ahh, nostalgia – longing for the days when you could die a rugged individual without Big GumMint gettin’ in the way.

    1. “We should be like 1900, we should be like 1940, 1950, 1960,” said the Texas congressman in weighing in on the matter during a stop in New Hampshire. He regarded FEMA as a “great contribution to deficit financing.”

      The presidential contender explained that he lives on the Gulf Coast back in the Lone Star State. He said, “We deal with hurricanes all the time. Galveston is in my district.”

      The Galveston Hurricane of 1900 is to date the deadliest natural disaster ever to strike the United States. By contrast, the second-deadliest storm to strike the United States, the 1928 Okeechobee Hurricane, caused more than 2,500 deaths, and the deadliest storm of recent times, Hurricane Katrina, claimed the lives of approximately 1,800 people.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1

        1. I believe epidemics are a separate category, be they glue or flu. In any case , yeah, 6000 people dying in Galveston  probably demonstrates how much we don’t want to go back to 1900.

          I can see his presidential campaign now.  Well actually I can’t because it’s not as if he has a chance of being nominated. But perhaps in some alternate universe he does and his slogan will be “back to 1900”

            1. To be most accurate maybe we should break it down, as they do under, different sub-categories. At any rate, I’m in no hurry to return to 1900 conditions for hurricanes or epidemics. Or surgery or dental work. Or summers without air conditioning but, for women, with multiple layers of under and over corset,shift and petticoats. Or practically anything about being a woman or a minority. Or sex without reliable birth control.  Etc.  

              1. No cars.

                No Federal Trade Commission.

                No Federal Reserve Bank.

                No voting for women.

                No birth control except abstinence.

                Like expectancy under 50 – for those who made it past childhood.

                No vacines,

                No penicillin

                Not much soap.

                No electrified cities, let alone ruralities.

                No Israel.

                No Social Security.

  4. I was activated about 4pm; arriving at my ARC headquarters about 4:30pm. I was completely soaked by 4:35pm while doing my vehicle checks. Then I started loading the Heater Meals and comfort kits into the Emergency Response Vehicle (ERV). After that only my feet were dry inside my boots.

    The rest of the evening, to about 8pm was in and out of the storm. Continuing wet and windy. We were in a tropical storm, sustained winds over 35mph and lots of rain.

    I was told to stay where I was until needed for other operations. Nothing occured and my relief driver showed up about 7am. I went home.

    I am not expecting to be deployed anywhere now that Irene is up and gone. The damage is spotty around here. We have had a series of heavy thunderstorms that knocked over most of the easy pickings so anything that fell over last night were tough.

    My power is out, neighbor said since 10pm, Boo and I are careful about battery use. The gas still works so I am cooking up piles of chicken, the rest of the refrigerator occupants will be in the dumpster tomorrow. The power company said they have no time line for the power to be fixed; downed lines, blown transformers and needing special crews. Very normal for where I live.

    If you have never been in a tropical storm you have missed the best shower of your life.

    Okay, maybe not that. You get soaked and wind blown. That is the truth.  

  5. Just crossed into Canada – good luck Canada.

    So, it missed my cousin and friends in Florida.

    My friends’s family on the Outer Banks were evacuated – property damage is likely but won’t know for a day or two.

    Missed the fleet- out to see, coming back to Virgina.

    Apparently didn’t do much in DC.

    Drove right over Atlantic City – mostly empty.

    Delivered small surge in NYC.

    Flew right over my brother’s house in westenr MA – seriously- the eye crossed right over them.

    Safe is good. Even when it’s expensive.

    Sure, cost benefit analysis can be done, and should be part of the after reports.

    Thanks to all the 1st  responders and volunteers who were on duty. COndolences to the  families and firends of the fatalities.

    Maybe  prayer saved the day. If so, clearly the storm wasn’t really punishment for gat marriage.

    Ron Pauls’ candidacy is no officially done. Fork please, 1900 style.

    Cantor better figure out the offset/disaster aid fast.

    Meanwhile, the US military got Al Queda’s #2.

    Pre-season football ended. and a bajillion other things happened.

    Irene out.

  6. Kudos to President Obama and east coast Governors and emergency personnel for the way they got ahead of Hurricane Irene. Despite substantial flooding, many people were evacuated and death counts are (so far) relatively very low. A lot was learned from the terrible tragedy of the Hurricane Katrina. PREPARATION IS EVERYTHING.

    My sympathies to the 21 families who lost loved ones in the storm.  

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