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February 05, 2021 11:02 PM UTC

Weekend Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“A harmful truth is better than a useful lie.”

–Thomas Mann

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41 thoughts on “Weekend Open Thread

  1. Two things..

    It is so encouraging to see COVID related hospitalizations going down. Sadly, it will take a while before the mortality numbers follow suit, as I understand things. We will be eligible for vaccine on Monday. 

    All the more reason for all of us to double down on safety. It is unlikely that Covid -19 will ever leave us, but as safety measures, vaccines, and treatments improve we can learn to take down other viruses along with this scourge. We have checked and upgraded our masks. We can beat this virus, but we have to do it together.

    On a lighter note; has anyone else noticed the odd coincidence that CHB and Repeal and Replace disappeared from these pages at the same time? Curious, that.

    Which was puppet and which was master? 

    1. CHB still lurks, I think. R&R??

      FWiW,I think they are two different men. Different writing and thinking styles, slightly different politics. I irritate them both equally.

      If you want to de-lurk them, say something nice about Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. That’ll do it.

        1. No, pretty much…It’s just you I irritate, to a mind-numbing and ridiculous extent. 

          Occasionally R&R or CHB will chime in on the tree-bashing, as I acknowledged. Others tolerate or even manage respectful discussion and disagreement. 

          Hadn’t heard that you were elected as blog spokesman for “EVERYONE”. 
           

          On another topic, anyone else on Jeffco ( or your own  county) re-org meeting? 

          1. Yeah, it’s pretty much everyone.  Just yesterday you played Ride of the Valkyries again and attacked Alva for not following rigid gender and racial quotas on the daily quote!

            The. Daily. Quote!

            Gawd, what a perfect world you live in, flightless bird, when the worst thing in it is the fact that lesbian Lithuanian auto mechanics are under represented in the daily barking quote!

            The horror.  The horror!

  2. Surprising to find Lauren Boebert getting attention from fivethirtyeight.com

    She was one of 8 congress critters written up for a quick summary of public opinion surveys of members of Congress:  The surprising part of this to me was that 37% of the survey respondents knew something about her.  The ratio of attitudes was about what I expected: 12 favorable, 25 unfavorable, -13 net. [numbers for Boebert are an average of YouGov/The Economist and Morning Consult/Politico]

  3. Back in the day, they called ‘useful lies’ rumors and the rule of thumb was that if you wouldn’t say it to the individuals face then don’t tell it to me cause I don’t want to be a witness to what you say.  Truth can be twisted but it can also persist past the current situation waiting for a fertile moment to burst forth again.  Lies just wither with age and examination.

    Rumors are just a variation of the party game where someone whispers something to the person next to them then that person repeats what he/she heard to the next person.  Not much nutritional communication or innovation in that kind of mindless repetition.  What if the rules changed so that the next person had to add something to the telling or repeat it to the person on the opposite side of the circle.

    The ultimate copout for the folks who repeat rumors is that if it turns out to be false then they can say: ‘Well it was just a rumor’.  Good speech avoids rumor because it detracts from working with the current circumstances.  Speech is important for activists.  How we speak about our opponents.  How we speak among ourselves.  How we speak to the public are all critical contexts for how successful we are at achieving our objectives which are lofty calls to service.  There are many effective ways to communicate a hard truth.  It just takes some imagination and gumption.

    1. Reminds me of a social science theory I studied years ago: Gossip, a close cousin to rumor, serves a societal purpose. It helps set societal norms. We talk about the guy down the street cheating on his wife to establish that cheating on your spouse is unacceptable.

      Fox News has demonstrated how the power of media gossip, couched as opinion, has polluted a large section of our society. If the people on TV are fostering racist, sexist, xenophobia then it becomes the norm. 

      1. Interesting.

        A perfect gathering place for the intellectually lazy. The creation of the echo chamber on the right seems like it was a key to its success. Those looking for enlightenment aren’t likely to find it on OAN or on late night Salem Broadcasting programming.

        They will, however, find validation that their hastily derived or long-standing but never questioned biases are true…and God says it’s OK to rebuke those _______. 

  4. Terrific cover of a terrific song. It's a tribute to the late, great Ronnie James Dio that a powerhouse like Jeff Soto has to work his ass off to sing a number Dio belted out almost effortlessly.

    Sons of Apollo – Gates of Babylon

    And these guys have a new studio album coming out for the first time in over 20 years. I guess 74-year-old bass god Tony Levin got a bit bored, what with no Stick Men or King Crimson tours.

    Liquid Tension Experiment – The Passage of Time

    1. Thanks for the links, Genghis. T. Lev is an inspiration for us old geezers.

      Thanks also for the Goldpile/Spacemind Soundcloud links a while back (I seem to remember it was you who posted, but if not, thanks to whomever did.)

      Onward.

    1. We already had our sports for the day. The Kitten Bowl was much more fun than the human game, and our two old cats were fascinated by all those little kitties running around on the screen.

  5. US House “GQP” members, charted

    This is an interesting visual posted by annieli on Daily Kos. The original graphic was in an article by Phillip Bump in the Washington Post, using data from Kos.

    Bump’s premise is that there are now three main factions in the House Republican caucus: Trumpists, an “accountability caucus”, and “pro-Democracy Republicans”.

    From Colorado’s delegation,  Lamborn and Boebert are Trumpists. Buck is “pro-Democracy”. The Post’s graphic groups the members by presidential vote  margin in their states. So it’s easy to see the Trumpers ( Including Boebert and Lamborn), who are representing the GQPers in their own districts, but not the overall voters in their states. 

    Bump’s conclusion:

    What we can take away from this, though, is that for every House Republican willing to hold another Republican to account, there are seven who toe the Trumpian line.

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