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March 09, 2006 09:00 AM UTC

Thursday Open Thread

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  1. Botero is on Fox 31’s good day colorado. HE is saying Tancredo only talks about immigration, he failed to mention the fact that Tom has worked to recognize Tiawan a recognized country, fought for helping stop the genocide in Sudan, and he has faught for a flag burning amendment. Aside from that the distinguished Congressman has fought for conservative valuse across the board. I wish Tom the best since he recently lost his mother, and good luck to him in this years elections.

  2. Oh please.

    Tom is talking about building a wall between here and Mexico.  Probobly the dumbest and most EXPENSIVE idea about illegal immagration.

    This is waht Tancredo is really about.  Violating the law.  From the Rocky Mountian News:

    Charge leads Tancredo to change site

    Tom Tancredo removed link to office Web site.
    By Rocky Mountain News
    March 9, 2006

    A complaint from an opponent Wednesday prompted Rep. Tom Tancredo to alter his campaign Web site.
    Until Wednesday, the campaign Web site http://www.Tancredo.org included a link to the Littleton Republican’s official, taxpayer-funded congressional site, http://www.house.gov/tancredo.

    The link to the government site was removed after Democratic opponent Bill Winter cited congressional ethics rules banning the use of taxpayer resources in a campaign.

    “Tancredo’s use of taxpayer dollars to finance his partisan political campaign is a violation of the voters’ trust,” Winter said in news release that equated the case to some of the biggest scandals in Washington.

    Tancredo’s campaign counsel, Jon Ponder, said he removed the link shortly after learning of Winter’s complaint.

    “We make every effort to keep the campaign and congressional (office) separate,” Ponder said. “Even if it is not a technical violation, it needs to be removed.”

  3. I dont think Tom would mind a wall, but a wall is not the plan he prefers. As for the link, i would assume it was there for constituents that found that site that wanted some help from the congressman, i see no foul in that. So go back to drinking you liberal kool-aid

  4. I just don’t see anyone having a chance against Tancredo. The guy is flirting with a run for President for goodness sakes. His seat is about as safe as it gets.
    There is only one person who has a wisper of a chance and it’s neither Botero nor Winter.

  5. It is aginst the *law*.  Evidently Tancredo supporters see no foul in that.  Interesting.  I also find it interesting that it was the RATT PAC (Republicans Against Tom Tancredo) that exposed the violation in the first place.

    I am concerned about illegal immigration myself, but Tom is really loosing touch on this issue.  He rufuses to address the causes AND proposes very taxpayer intensive burdens to fix it.

    Crazy.

  6. Tom Tancredo is a prejudiced man who wants to keep any immigrant out of the country.

    Oh wait, that’s not ture, he only wants to keep Hispanic immigrants out. He doesn’t talk about the Canadian border where white people, and by the way, terrorists, enter our country!

  7. He has stated on 60 Minutes, that he would like to build a wall!  That’s his plan for our country, building a wall across the southern border of the U.S., and keeping it patrolled by the military.  That’s the craziest plan around!

  8. Green Party Candidate for Summit County Commissioner

    Doug Malkan, Co-Chair of the Green Party of Summit County has announced he is a candidate for Summit County Commissioner, District 1, on the November 7, 2006 ballot. Doug was nominated as a candidate by consensus at the Summit County caucus held March 8, 2006.

    “We need a voice on the commission that we can depend on, and someone who has a track record of fighting for the environment, for open space, for affordable housing and for better local government,” Doug said.

    More at:
    http://www.MetroDenverGreens.org

  9. Are you kidding, Tancredo isn’t safe at all anymore!  Both Botero and Winter have a shot this year. 
    Tancredo is completely out of touch with America, he’s on a crusade to improve only his name recognition, not the issues the rest of us deal with everyday!
    Botero is a new name, but he has an interesting background.
    Winter has been working hard and proven himself to the right people.  He’s really taking a stand.

  10. So who wants to bet that “I can’t believe it IS butter!” is eithe rJuan or Bill?
    Those are about the only two guys I can think of who would write that last post with a straight face.

  11. Paccione faces ethics protests
    Complaint filed over an election brochure
    By LINDSAY RENICK MAYER

    DENVER – Rep. Angie Paccione might have to defend herself before a House Ethics Committee over a fundraising brochure she said was never meant to go out.

    Eleven constituents filed an ethics complaint against Paccione on Wednesday, saying she abused her office by offering rewards to fundraising teams involved in Paccione’s campaign against U.S. Rep. Marilyn Musgrave for the 4th Congressional District seat.

    http://www.coloradoan.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060309/NEWS01/603090302/1002

  12. Botero is right, Tom is a “one trick pony” who cannot even do his trick very well anymore.  He would basically roll over and do anything Jon Tanton asked him to do, and has given some VERY questionable organizations like:

    The Pioneer Fund (modern day eugenicists)
    Coalition for Concerned Citizens (white supremacists)
    California Coalition for Immigration Reform (white supremacists)

    – access to Congress!  He has a LOT of grassroots republican opposition (obviously, as Juan Botero is symptom of that) in his supposedly “safe” district.

  13. He has stated on 60 Minutes, that he would like to build a wall! That’s his plan for our country, building a wall across the southern border of the U.S., and keeping it patrolled by the military. That’s the craziest plan around!

    Posted by: Fab at March 9, 2006 09:34 AM

    So what? I think that is a great plan. We are under siege, having our pockets picked by illegal immigrant who take from the public coffers and give nothing back to our society of any substance. The Illegal Immigrant trade is interlocked with the drug trade as well. Build a wall and patrol it with tanks… Sounds like a good plan. I guess I’ll vote for Tom this year.

  14. No, I’m not juan or bill, but I am someone who pays enough attention to know that this years political season is not safe for Tancredo anymore.  Perhaps that’s because i actually live in the district, and am affected by having Tom represent me.  I’m ready for a change, and Botero and Winter are better than what we have now.  Why is it that this year is the first Republican primary against Tancredo?  Because both sides are fed up with his nonsense.

  15. There are legal and illegal ways of entering our country.  Tom wants to stop the illegal ways.  He is not prejudice.  He has no problems with Hispanics coming to our country.  He does have a problem with Hispanics coming to our country bypassing the proper channels.  And so do I.  Also, Bill Winters needs to focus on his campaign that has no chance.  Yes, it was wrong to link his gov’t website from his campaign website, but for Winters to state that “Tancredo’s use of taxpayer dollars to finance his partisan political campaign is a violation of the voters’ trust”.  Tom’s gov’t site did not have a link to his campaign site, it was the other way around, so no taxpayer financing was done for his campaign.  Error corrected (shame on Tom), get on with the campaign.

  16. You think a wall is going to save you $$? 

    Right!

    It would be cheaper for us to pay them to stay home!  Not to mention the fact that a LOT of the illegal immigration in this country does NOT come across the Mexican border.  This is simply NOT a practical plan.  Fiscally OR practically.

  17. To ManoftheHour,

    That’s old news about Paccione. It was not her idea and she did not endorse it. She’s already handled it. It’s about as damaging as Tancredo having a link to his congressional site.

  18. I’m with President Bush, not Tancredo, on the immigration issue and support a guest worker program.  But face it, NO program will work without some better border security.  We aren’t literally talking about a “wall,” we’re talking a bout a Fence, probably two fences with about 100 feet between them.  We used sensors in Vietnam that could detect footfalls.  The Israelis have shown me very advanced stuff in their northern border with Lebanon.  You don’t patrol with tanks but you do use sensors, camera, satellites and other toys to deploy agents rapidly to these areas.  The cost is affordable and, to make the Democrats happy, could be paid for by rolling back Bush’s proposed tax cuts for the rich 😉
    Any 7-11 has better security than America’s southern border.  Yes, we need a fence.

  19. Sensors, cameras, satellites, two fences, and presumably thousands more agents over two thousand miles of border?

    Is this like Beauprez’s $4 million “Verus2000” boxes?  That is, who cares how much it costs.  Deficits don’t matter, right?

    Maybe we can pay for this with all that Iraqi oil money.

  20. I agree that illegal immigration is a problem.  A solution is the McCain/Kennedy Bill at the Federal level.  This is a real solution.  Tancredo doesn’t want a solution to the illegal immigration problem.  What would he talk about? He needs illegals more than employers do.

  21. A Different Standard for Senator Clinton
    By Roger Aronoff  |  March 10, 2006

    It is a sign of Hillary’s status as a media darling that the latest damaging development gets buried in the papers, if it gets mentioned at all.  Watching Senator Hillary Clinton play to the media, in the controversy over an Arab company managing U.S. ports, provided another important lesson in how our reporters operate by a double standard. After a Senate hearing on the matter, during a “press availability,” reporters were desperate to get Mrs. Clinton’s views on the matter, as if she had any credentials in the area. She spouted forth like an expert, as if she has been on guard against foreign domination and had an established reputation as the high protector of U.S. sovereignty.


    Why don’t any reporters ask her to explain her husband’s efforts to have the Chinese Ocean Shipping Company (COSCO), a subsidiary of the People’s Liberation Army of Communist China, operate the port at Long Beach, California? Shortly before his administration went to bat for COSCO, the 1996 Clinton-Gore re-election campaign received several million dollars from Chinese and other Asian sources, clearly a violation of campaign laws. But all that happened was that they had to give some of the money back. Attorney General Janet Reno refused to appoint an Independent Counsel to investigate that, and numerous other crooked fundraising schemes, such as Al Gore’s appearance at what CNN called the “infamous Hsi Lai Temple luncheon.”

    Our media don’t want to raise those issues, probably regarding them as “ancient history,” but there’s a more recent matter that should command their attention. There have been new developments in the Hillary-for-Senate campaign finance scandal.

    Rest:
    http://www.aim.org/media_monitor/4413_0_2_0_C/

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