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May 17, 2019 07:18 AM UTC

Friday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“It is more of a disgrace to be robbed of what one has than to fail in some new undertaking.”

–Pericles

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  1. I've been wondering when the RMGO is planning to begin its recall campaign of Jessie Danielson in SD 20. Considering the mountains of paper flyers blasting her, that I received last summer and fall, from registered agents Katie Kennedy, Mike McCauley, Rick Enstrom, fronting for their dark money PACs, I'd think Danielson would be a prime target. 

      1. R & R: it's sort of "swingy."

        Since Trump got elected, I'm thinking all bets are off for the Rs to reclaim the district. As you know, Cheri Jahn had SD 20 before and she was fairly conservative as Ds go.

    1. The Nevilles' Values First Colorado organization is currently trying to recall Reps. Sullivan, Froelich, and Bridges, according to the Recall Colorado website.

      RMGO is not, per se, running recalls. They claim only that they are "supporting" the Sullivan recall attempt. There is, however, a lot of overlap between RMGO and the Nevilles' organizations. For example, RMGO's Director of Operations, Seth Chapin Walters, is the registered agent for the Tom Sullivan recall.

      However, the paid petition drive on the Sullivan recall is organized through the Neville-funded "Decide Colorado" business, whose registered agent is Brenda Stokes, vice chair of the Arapahoe County GOP. The Decide Colorado facebook link to to the Sullivan recall attempt is recalltomsullivanhd37

      Here’s a screen shot:

      TRACER lists active recall groups against Rochelle Galindo,  Leroy Garcia, Bri Buontello, Sheriff Spurlock, and Tom Sullivan. Nothing against Jesse Danielson.

      1. It seems …weird to me that anyone can run a recall for any reason almost anytime.

        Hey I lost on electionday, but don't you worry I'll get a recall going shortly after that, and when no one is paying attention – I'll get in there yet.

        1. To me, it's an admission by COGOP that they can't win legit elections in Colorado anymore. And they refuse to run electable moderate candidates, because RMGO or one of the Neville PACS will blanket the district with propaganda against said candidates.

          So COGOP has given in to the bullying, and there doesn't seem to be any way out for them – but I do believe that "recall fever" will in the long run be good news for Democrats.

          States that only allow recalls for criminal conduct don't have these problems.

  2. Cory Gardner gets noticed by The Hill:”Senate Republicans running away from Alabama abortion law”

    Other Republicans facing tough reelection races in 2020 dodged questions on the Alabama law.

    Sen. Cory Gardner (R-Colo.), when approached, said he was late to a meeting and referred questions to his office. Aides to Gardner did not respond to a request for comment.

    Gardner is one of two Republicans running next year in a state Clinton carried in 2016.

    1. The main reason I stayed Republican for 32 years was that the GOP was free trade and Democrsts, like Mondale, were protectionist.

      Now Trump has destroyed even that.

    2. "Tariffs are the taxes that made America Great" – Pat Buchanan (yes, he's still alive)

      A tariff may be described as a sales or consumption tax the consumer pays, but tariffs are also a discretionary and an optional tax.

      If you choose not to purchase Chinese goods and instead buy comparable goods made in other nations or the USA, then you do not pay the tariff.

      The problem is that we're also imposing tariffs and pulling out of trade agreements all over the damn globe. Hence, my celery that used to be $1.29, from Mexico, but now it’s $5 / lb, since the US is no longer in NAFTA.

      I don't think that consumers, farmers, small business people will be buying lyin' Pat's spin.

      1. Technically you may not pay the tariff but you do pay the higher price.

        Example.  Colorado-grown sugar costs $4 a pound.  I save by buying Cuban sugar at $1 a pound. Then Trump imposes a $3 a pound tax/tariff on Cuban sugar.

        Now, my Cuban sugar costs $4 a pound.  The only way to avoid the Tariff is to buy Colorado sugar at $4 a pound.  

        So I'm screwed either way.  I either pay $4 a pound for my sugar or do without sugar.

        That's how tariffs work and how they are designed to work!

         

        There is nothing optional or discretionary about tariffs, as MJ wisely noted.

      2. Original NAFTA is still in place.   NAFTA 2.0 (USMCA) is negotiated, but has not been ratified.  As a "negotiating with Congress" position, Trump has been threatening that if USMCA fails, he'll pull us out of NAFTA.

        So I don't know why your celery has gone up so much … but it isn't for lack of a trade agreement with Mexico.

        1. My understanding from the produce manager at my town's one big grocery store was that it was a retaliatory price increase (on celery) imposed by Mexico, in reaction to Trump tariffs on other products. I’ve also seen cold weather and a juicing fad blamed for high demand/ low supply of celery.

          Other trade turbulence may ensue before the USMCA is ratified. Tomatoes, most of which are grown in Mexico, are next. And that is a US tariff.

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