Weekend Open Thread

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–Mark Twain

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  1. davebarnes says:

    Peluzzer: “what does Putin have on the President, politically, personally or financially,”?
    The gloves are off.

    • mamajama55 says:

      And about freaking time. No more pretending. The stakes are too high.

      • Duke Cox says:

        How long, mama, have we been waiting for the Dems to grow a pair and call the bluff of this Bully and all his Bully Boys? It took a woman to do it.

        I must say, the nation is fortunate to have "Nancy" two heartbeats away from the Presidency, and running the political machine that is engaged in disassembling a tyrant.

        Better late than never.

        • gertie97 says:

          And the perps behind the ill-fated coup against Pelosi for (gasp!) being too old are silenced.


          • MADCO says:

            Neither she, nor anyone else is "too old"

            However. I want progressive candidates to win. Everywhere. Almost everytime. Where I grew up the D primary was the election. No one knew or cared if there was an R in the general. 

            No one is too old. But voters are not always motivated by noble, well informed intention.  If Speaker X can get 1 more progressive vote than Speaker Y, I want Speaker X.  

            I don’t believe Speaker Pelosi is Speaker X.

          • mamajama55 says:

            Pelosi is not "too old". I respect elders. I just don't care for her habit of preemptively ruling out options before members even vote on them – Impeachment or trial for war crimes was "off the table" for GW Bush or Dick Cheney. The public option was "off the table" when talking about the shape of Obamacare.

            Last year, Pelosi said that impeaching Trump was "off the table". This year, she is still saying that impeachment needs to be bipartisan (fat chance of that) and should wait for action until Mueller releases his report. And the House will definitely subpoena Trump's tax returns – which will provide evidence for impeachment if it shows that candidate Trump lied about his wealth and how much Russian oligarchs have loaned him.

            As savvy and skilled a politician as Pelosi is, (and she just proved that), she has to be keeping a weather eye on the Congressional Progressive Caucus (CPC), which is now the largest caucus among the Democrats. 44% of Democratic members are Progressives. 23% of the House as a whole are members of the CPC. This makes it the second largest caucus in Congress, after the powerful Republican Study Committee.

            She cannot afford to take the desire of Progressives to impeach Trump "off the table".

            • gertie97 says:

              She's a realist. Until and if there is a reasonable chance of getting 67 votes in the Senate for Trump's removal, Pelosi should keep impeachment off the table.

              Remember what happened to Republicans after Newt led Clinton's impeachment in the House?

  2. davebarnes says:

    Data, lots of data.

    Public’s 2019 Priorities: Economy, Health Care, Education and Security All Near Top of List


    • MADCO says:

      So says "the public."
      but really?  Are the Kardashians still famous for being famous? Do more people still care about who is or isn't hosting the Oscar's than the winning margin in OC?

      Priorities are jobs, education and money. Sex, drugs and rock and roll. 
      less than the poll respondents are even registered – and even fewer voted in 2016.

  3. And miraculously, not a single Free-dumb Caucus member decided to hold their ground and object to the CR last night.

  4. Voyageur says:

    Let us give thanks to a truly good and smart person, Nancy Pelosi, for leading Americans to a small but significant  victory in the fight to restore this nation to sanity.

    • The realist says:

      And do not ever forget she accomplished something through her expertise, her years of experience, her negotiation skills, her political skills that no other Dem in the House would have likely been able to do. She also understands the psychology of a very sick malignant narcissist. At the age of 78, she is the best person the Dems could have had for Speaker. How long would the #TrumpShutdown have continued without her work? The age thing frankly pisses me off – I saw it play out recently in a county Dem Party. Are we not bright enough to evaluate people without reference to their age? 

  5. JohnInDenver says:

    I'm not certain if Sen. Bennet's cri de coeur was strategic or merely responsive, but it did get his picture in the Washington Post again. Jennifer Rubin chose him as Distinguished pol of the week: What you were wishing someone said

    She concludes:

    We’ll see if Bennet decides to enter the 2020 race. In any event, he earned plenty of kudos (I suspect privately from some Republicans who don’t like Cruz any more than Democrats do) this week. For that we can say, well done, Sen. Bennet.


  6. davebarnes says:

    The Dumpster® craves SOTU speech while Nancy says: STFU.

  7. Voyageur says:

    The age issue is important for the presidency, because at this stage you need to add ten years to get to the election and serving two terms. Bernie is already 77 .  Would he be mentally sharp at 87?  Or even alive?  Not likely. Where dave barnes is ridiculous is in judging by a candidate's generation, not her age.  He thinks Amy Klobuchar is too old at 54 beccause her "generation"  — an utterly arbitrary concept, includes people as old as 72.

    Bu t the speaker, in contrast, is chosen for a two year term.  She seems sharp as a tack and is my choice.  As for MJ's fulmination that Pelosi insists that impeachment be a bipartisan process — read the constitution.  It takes a two -thirds vote o f the Senate to convict!  

    A purely partisan impeachment is not just a waste of time, it is an obscene abuse of a constitutional process.

    Nancy Ro cks.

  8. mamajama55 says:


    Kamala Harris will be a formidable candidate. Check out her announcement speech in Oakland (she finally begins speaking at 1:06 in the video). She hit all the right notes, and showed that she can work a crowd. 

    There are those concerns that she may be too friendly to the prison industry. But I didn’t see that in her financials. She seems like a candidate who could be a unifier of the diverse elements in the Democratic Party, and appeal to unaffiliated, as well. I still like Warren better, policy-wise. On a practical note, Harris’ history as a prosecutor will appeal to those unsettled by the lawlessness of the current administration.

    Ms. Harris is one to watch. 

    • Voyageur says:

      Gotta say, harris is a bit light on qualifications but gives one hellluva speech.   Her plan for yet another tax cut is a blueprint for bankruptcy.

      a very impressive debut.

  9. Duke Cox says:

    I think it is time to throw a little love at Sherrod Brown. He has been a favorite of mine for a long time. He is a mature white man with considerable experience and I believe pretty solid progressive credentials. Which means he has very little chance of gaining traction in todays' political climate.

     Of course, Warren, Harris, Castro, Gabbard, are all excellent.

    Any Democrat will be an improvement.

    • Voyageur says:

      Brown is great.  And the Republicans have  never won the presidency without carrying Ohio.

    • Gray in Mountains says:

      I've liked Brown since he hit my radar several years ago. If he is in, and still in, when CO has our primary, I'll send a check


      • JohnInDenver says:

        The more the merrier — as long as they stay on "what can I do for you" and "how the United States can be better." I especially want candidates to keep away from "I'm better than candidate x" or, even worse, "never mind me — candidate x is unqualified."

        On a variety of issues, Brown is fine. I continue to see him as among the best possible Vice President possibilities for younger, more charismatic campaigners if they become the nominee.

        My hesitation — his campaign speaking is even below Hickenlooper's low-key style.

        My criticisms-in-search-of-a-reply — why doesn't he have a bigger margin of victory personally and why can't he seem to help other Democrats in Ohio or surrounding states win elections?

  10. davebarnes says:

    And, then, we have Howard running as an independent.


  11. Gray in Mountains says:

    I've liked Brown since he hit my radar several years ago. If he is in, and still in, when CO has our primary, I'll send a check


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