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May 16, 2006 08:00 AM UTC

Tuesday Open Thread

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  1. It looks like Fern O’Brien is getting some good press on her campaigning in Northeast Colorado.  The Greeley Tribune never disappoints, especially with this headline straight out of the 1940’s: “Woman to Run for Attorney General.”  Sterling Journal Advocate: “Democratic Attorney General candidate Fern O’Brien stopped in Sterling Saturday as a part of her tour across northeastern Colorado.  A working mother of two from Gunbarrel, O’Brien announced her run for office in March.”

    She’s got the state assembly this weekend – knock ’em dead, Gunbarrel Fern!

  2. Photo latest fuel in Churchill flap
    Author says CU prof used picture of hers without permission

    By Berny Morson, Rocky Mountain News
    May 16, 2006
    The photograph of a child’s grave in University of Colorado ethnic studies professor Ward Churchill’s 2004 book about Indian boarding schools jumped out at Brenda Child.
    That’s because Child, a member of the Red Lake Ojibwa tribe, took the picture and published it in 1998 in her own award-winning book on the same subject.

    “I was surprised that was there because he’s never sought my permission to use it and it appeared without my knowing that it would be in his book,” said Child, a University of Minnesota faculty member in American studies.

    Worse, from Child’s standpoint, is the caption Churchill appended to the photograph. It said that half the children at the nation’s Indian boarding schools suffered the same fate as the child whose grave is pictured in the photograph.

    That figure is a “tremendous exaggeration,” Child said. “That is just beyond belief.”

    rest:

    http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/education/article/0,1299,DRMN_957_4701982,00.html

  3. TonyT,

    Not all rural Coloradans are crazy, thank you very much, and Fern O’Brien has shown a deep interest in our issues.  That means a lot to me, especially since Suthers has shown he couldn’t be bothered.  I think I know who will win the support of out-state voters like me, and it’s that kind of support that won races for Romer and Salazar.

    I know I don’t post often, but I’ve got to stick up for us non-Denverites!

  4. Why doesn’t CNN or other national news stations actually visit inside Mexico?  I don’t think we understand the level of poverty that exists at our southern border.  We cannot begin to understand the gravity of the situtation until we truly know what is going on in Mexico.  The American public needs to be educated about what is happening, so we can make informed decisions.  How many of our Colorado representatives have actually visited Mexico in the past few years?

  5. Why should we care how much poverty there is in Mexico?  Seems to me that that is an issue that is better addressed by the Mexican government, rather than ours.

    Or are you advocating that the U.S. meddle in the internal affairs of Mexico?

  6. Mexico has the same natural resources we do, and a solid workforce to boot. 

    If they weren’t so politically corrupt they could have the same great economy we do.  It’s just easier for them to send ’em up here to us idiots.  At the least, our illegal policy should match Mexico’s, which if anyone has read it, is pretty darn strict and carries big teeth for violators.

  7. The only way to stop immigration is to make people NOT want to leave their home country.

    The easy solution: levy tarrifs on imported goods from Mexico (or any other country for that matter) that are manufactured in places with less strict labor and environmental regulations.

    But that would never happen, because multi-national corporations don’t care about the planet or the workers.

  8. Yet again, this comes back to an internal issue in Mexico that needs to be fixed.  Are you advocating that the US meddle in the affairs of Mexico?

    It’s their problem, and once we stop being the release valve for them, they will be forced to fix it.

  9. A Nonymous —

    Unfortunately, it has become a problem.  The problem is not just singularly labeled in American security.  The problem has a lot to do with the fact that the people of Mexico are seeking a better life in America, economic refuges. That is tied to job opportunity and the economic woes of Mexico. 

    Mexcio is meddling their people in our country.  They are impacting our nation in many ways.  Are you suggesting that Mexico has a right to meddle in our affairs, but that we cannot try to solve them?  We need to understand “why” millions of Mexicans are leaving their homeland for America to offer solutions.

  10. Can’t say I really see why their country is so fouled up should be our problem to fix.

    I see their attempts to meddle in the internal affairs of the United States as a criminal act by their government.  However, solving their problems is another matter, if you want us to fix all of their internal problems and make them a profitable economy, why don’t we just annex them and get it over with?

  11. A Nonymous —

    We have TWO choices.  1) We build a wall along the entire length of the southern US border  to protect against an economy in Mexico that is greatly tied to illegal drug activity and a government of corruption.  2) We attempt to offer solutions with the Mexican government, (investment and economic) working together to solve problems between the US and inside the Mexican government. 

    3) We ignore the problem and place an estimated 3 addtional border agents for each mile of the US border, beginning in two years.

  12. OK Patriot, tell you what, figure out a way to pay for it, and I may agree with you on option #1 provided we can be assured that the corrupt government of Mexico won’t rip us off.

    However, the concept of raising US taxes to solve a Mexican problem is not an option. And don’t go into your typical Bush-bashing, the war, etc.

    Offer a real solution to the problem.

  13. BREAKING NEWS
    Churchill investigation uncovers academic misconduct

    by Sara Burnett and Kevin Vaughan, Rocky Mountain News
    May 16, 2006

    BOULDER — A University of Colorado investigative committee found deliberate and serious misconduct by ethnic studies professor Ward Churchill, including plagiarism, fabrication, and “serious deviation from accepted practices in reporting results from research,” according to a report made public today.
    The committee also noted Churchill was “disrespectful of Indian oral traditions” when he wrote the U.S. government distributed blankets infested with smallpox to Mandan Indians in 1837 on the Upper Missouri River.

    Three of the five members of the committee said the transgressions were serious enough that CU could revoke Churchill’s tenure and fire him. But two of those three said the most appropriate sanction would be a five-year suspension without pay.

    Just think how fast they’d have fired him if he’d had a “Bush/Cheney” sticker on his car.

  14. Bottom line (literally, in the article):

    In all, the process could take several more months to resolve. Lane and Churchill also have indicated that they could take CU to federal court, further prolonging the case.

    Ward Churchill is now officially the worm in the apple of higher education.  What a joke CU has become.

  15. CU’s had more than its share of problems, but they did the right thing as far as I can tell in investigating Ward Churchill’s academic integrity.  These charges are pretty serious.  Churchill should be finished.  Seomtimes the system kind of works.

    Let’s all just hope he’s out of there without further litigation, so students returning in a couple months don’t have to deal with this particular circus again.

  16. Churchill is to CU as cancer is to a body, and CU needs to pull a big declownectomy in order to win back a lot of respect that was lost over the past few years. Don’t give this shithead a buyout either. 

    You can say or write whatever you want, however offensive, but plagiarism can’t just be excused. He needs to go.

  17. A SOLUTION FOR THE BORDER

    A Nonymous —

    1) We must stop the bleeding of our border to offer an immigration plan that will work.  As long as illegals can be rewarded with citizenship, then the system fails.

    SOLUTION —

    A. Round-up illegals in our country, (Texas, Arizona, California, or from Mexico) and offer them a very good working wage, since Americans will not take jobs those jobs — Bush said that one — and have the people of Mexico build the fence (wall, whatever) for US in a few months. 

    I say put the people of Mexico to work … to solve our border problem.  $20.00 an hour will probably have them coming across in droves, building the wall in a few weeks … and we could then have them fill-out applications, ID’s, fingerprints … then tell them this is the first step to becoming an American citizen — legally.

  18. CU’s had more than its share of problems, but they did the right thing as far as I can tell in investigating Ward Churchill’s academic integrity.

    Wow, using “academic integrity” in the same sentence as “Ward Churchill”.  Now that took some real literary license and ingenuity.  Hat’s off to you.

    Shamus has it right – a “declownectomy”.  LOL

    And while they’re investigating Churchill – how about an investigation of HOW A COLOSSAL FRAUD like Churchill got hired in the first place?  How about investigating HOW A COLOSSAL FRAUD like Churchill not only got tenure – but EARLY TENURE???? 

    Getting rid of Churchill is just the tip of the iceberg.  You can bet your last dollar that Churchill’s not the only fraud on campus.  If he got in, it’s very likely that others have as well.

    It’s time for the entire program to get the “declownectomy”.  I don’t envy Hank Brown, but it’s got to be done.

  19. Its a secret … shush !!!

    Verizon denies giving out phone info
    Telecom firm rebuts newspaper report that it gave out phone records or call information to National Security Agency.

    By David Ellis, CNNMoney.com staff writer
    May 16, 2006: 5:32 PM EDT
    http://money.cnn.com/2006/05/16/news/companies/verizon/index.htm?cnn=yes

    NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) – Verizon Communications Inc. denied earlier media reports that it entered into a contract with the National Security Agency, providing the government office with info about its customer phone calls.

    “One of the most glaring and repeated falsehoods in the media reporting is the assertion that, in the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks, Verizon was approached by NSA and entered into an arrangement to provide the NSA with data from its customers’ domestic calls,” the company said …

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