Tuesday Open Thread

“Sometimes by losing a battle you find a new way to win the war.”

–Donald Trump

31 Community Comments, Facebook Comments

  1. Voyageur says:

    Face it. 

    Trump stinks!

    Great God Almighty.

    Trump stinks.

    Stay upwind, America.


  2. Zappatero says:

    Senate Dems come out guns ablaze in Kavanaugh confirmation hearing. Will SFL Bennet weep over the loss of decorum?

    • JohnInDenver says:

      Zappatero — good to know your focus continues to be on Bennet at these moments. Here's his first response this morning.

      Bennet, US Senator for Colorado  2 hrs ago ·

      Handing over 42,000 more pages just hours before hearings begin is not transparency—it’s an effort to undermine the Senate’s ability to fully advise and consent. This is more reason to wait until all the documents are released before holding hearings.


  3. DENependent says:

    A week ago I said:

    Maybe things will change, but for me I think it telling that after a week that opinion polls show no significant change after the convictions and guilty pleas. Democrats and other patriotic Americans were eager to see the Manafort and Cohen news of last Tuesday as the turning point. It may be part of what causes the dynamics to change, but unless something new comes out it will not. The convictions by themselves are not changing the minds of GOP voters.

    I am glad to say that two weeks on my one week opinion was too gloomy. 538 is now showing Trump with a net approval of -14.1%. He has been more unpopular in the past and this may turn out to be one of the frequent brief downturns, but it is starting to look like a trend.

    Democrats are also showing what may be a shift in their direction, going from 47.7% on the generic ballot mid-August to 49.7 today (538) and a full 10 points ahead of Republicans. Because of the uncertainties involved in polling this can still give a wide range of outcomes. On one end Republicans retain control of the House with Dems. only picking up 17 of 23 seats needed for a majority. On the other end a real wave has them picking up a historically important 59 seats.

    • ParkHill says:

      I noticed in the 538 house map, that there are a large number of pink and a small number of light-blue districts. This is an indicator of how effective gerrymandering has been to pack Dems into dark blue, and spread Reps out of dark-red into pink districts. Here's hoping that all those levees built to withstand a 10-year storm, get overwhelmed by at 50 year storm. We're at the margin where a percentage point more in the Dems favor has a big effect.

      The press focusses a lot on Trump offending the College educated and Female segments. It focusses less on whether Trump's anti-immigrant and racist policies will drive hispanic voting turnout up. There is a lot of room to grow Dem votes in states with lots of hispanic voters.

  4. DENependent says:

    Badly Named 14ers:
    Castle Peak in the Elk Mountains
    Elevation: 14,279 ft (4352.2 m)
    Rank in Colorado: 9th Highest

    The Bad: The problem with this name is its obviousness. Though the 14er is the tallest of the bunch there are 24 other places in the US called “Castle Peak” according to the USGS including two others in Colorado. (Castle Peak in Mesa County and Castle Peak in Eagle County.) That does not even start in on all the places called “Castle Mountain” or “Mount Castle”.

    Possible Fixes: Adding another word to “Castle”. There is a mountain in Utah called Red Castle and other in Montana called Storm Castle. Aside from those the range of modifiers seems fairly wide open. It could be Silver Castle Peak for the history of silver mining in Colorado as well as the snow. Another possibility would be Ute Castle Peak for the tribe that used to live in the area. Surprisingly there is not yet a “Black Castle” or “Gray Castle” mountain anywhere in the US.

    • Conserv. Head Banger says:

      And your point is………   ??

      • DENependent says:

        Colorado's great mountains deserve great names. Creative ones. Pretty ones. Not boring, common ones. Places like mountains get their names from a combination of common usage and political action.

        So I am going through the lists of Colorado mountains and picking out the ones I think are good and the ones I think are terrible. Because it amuses me and will give me something to post that is more interesting than "Trump stinks".

        • mamajama55 says:

          Tater Heap is a great name for a mountain… isn't it, Tom?. Also the Grand Tetons in Wyoming, of which my mom mischievously asked, "But why are there three of them?"

          Other than that, we seem to be stuck with names of early explorers, Ivy League Colleges, and dead governors. Not that there's anything wrong with dead governors, Pols!


          I do think we need a swamp or landfill named after Doug Bruce. A “Superfund” site sounds kinda cool until you know what it is.


          • DENependent says:

            Tater Heap Mountain would certainly be amusing and unique. It might be a good name for a mountain near the San Louis Valley because of the potato farming. There is a Devils Tater Patch in Tennessee, a Long Tater Hill in Missouri, and a Round Tater Hill also in Missouri. Plus a few Potato Hills here and there in the US. Though I am not taterheaptom.

            Anyone happen to know of a round shaped mountain for mamajama?

            There are some awesome names on the Mountains as well as the common, uncreative, or inappropriate ones. Not going to tip my hand on any of those yet so I have something to post tomorrow. Also, I like some of the explorer names. Pikes Peak is historic, alliterative, and while it is not unique (there are apparently about 16 places named Pikes Peak including ours) it certainly is the most famous of the bunch.

        • Voyageur says:

          But Trump DOES stink!

          • DENependent says:

            <Homer Simpson voice>BOOR-ING!</hsv>

            In all seriousness, it is less interesting than a Republican loyalist repeating the partyspeak (not a word from 1984, but it should have been) without the slightest glimmer of self-awareness. They are at least fun to knock down or use as a pivot to another topic.

            • Voyageur says:

              But Trump stinks!

              Great God Almighty.

              Trump stinks!

            • Voyageur says:

              The 1984 term was "Duckspeak."

              And Trump stinks.

              • Conserv. Head Banger says:

                Castle Peak; the 14er; was named in part because of being surrounded by towers that resembled a castle's. I assume you've seen the "row of gendarmes" on Castle's south ridge?

                • DENependent says:

                  I have seen pictures, but I need to see it in person some year.

                  I think as a description the "castle" part is great, but the trouble is that so many mountains remind people of castles. I think just as human built castles are not just called, "the castle" it needs a modifier. Something else to say, "the unique, wonderful mountain in the Maroon-Bells Snowmass Wilderness and not some other Castle Peak".

                  • Voyageur says:

                    Call it "Trump stinks Castle."

                    That's uniquewink

                    • DENependent says:

                      Let me set you up with someone who can converse on your level.

                      <Enter Republican Parrot> "Squack, Dems suck. Libtards. Squack. Wanna cracker, none for lazy takers. Obama sucks."

                    • Voyageur says:

                      Buy a clue, mushhead.  A n effective slogan is quick, irrefutable, and spread by repetition.. Trump Stinks is perfect.

                      But don't worry– I can converse on your level too.  Just as soon as I can afford the necessary lobotomy.smiley

                  • Conserv. Head Banger says:

                    Looking at pictures of the "row of gendarmes" is not the same as viewing them from the summit of Castle.

                    Trust me on this. Did Castle over a 4 day weekend in 1992, followed up by South Maroon in the same weekend. South Maroon has a feature on its south ridge standard approach unique to the 14ers: moveable tundra. 

  5. Pseudonymous says:

    Looks like everyone who submitted signatures is "on the ballot."

    Campaign finance proposal makes Colorado’s 2018 ballot, rounding out 13 measures voters will face

    Secretary of State Wayne Williams said Tuesday that Initiative 173 has qualified for the ballot.  Under the initiative, if a candidate gives or loans their campaign more than $1 million, opponents in the race can accept contributions that are five times greater than the current limits in state law.

    The measure qualified with a projected 136,326 valid signatures, Williams’ office said — well above the 98,492 needed to secure a place on the ballot.

    The approval of the initiative rounds out the ballot measures Coloradans will decide in November. The 13 ballot initiatives, if passed, would have lasting impact on multiple fronts.

  6. MichaelBowman says:

    If your GDP is increasing every quarter and unemployment is down while the market is up, that means very little when other ways of measuring your economy don't match the positive data from the GDP, market, and unemployment numbers. 

    Large quantities of elderly people declaring bankruptcy simply isn't something that occurs in a healthy economy.

    I’d ask our #Avatarof(in)Sanity to comment but given he has a cushy federal job, the protections of his union, health care and a pension (thanks to the largess of the American taxpayer) I’m not sure he can empathize.  Is this what you mean by #MAGAt? Return to debtors prisons for the broke elderly? 

    Soaring bankruptcy rates signal a 'coming storm of broke elderly,' study finds

    Older Americans are filing for bankruptcy at more than double the rate of just 25 years ago, a sign of a "coming storm of broke elderly," a new study finds.



    • Davie says:

      I'm sure I speak for Moddy when I say the obvious solution is to cut back on Medicare and Medicaid.  Raise those premiums and deductibles!  Cut reimbursements!  That will allow seniors to learn to become self-sufficient, and finally get out of those hammocks and get a real job that no one else wants!

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