It’s been about two years now since ProgressNow Colorado brought us the pitiful story of Melissa. You remember, Melissa is a single mother with with two children (one an adult by now), who worked minimum wage and wanted to enjoy the stuff everyone else got to do.
ProgressNow feigned compassion for Melissa’s circumstances but happily used her situation to campaign and fund raise, for legislation increasing the mínimum wage. The legislation passed. It’s time to hear from Melissa on the great strides she has made with an increasing minimum wage.
Let’s hear from Melissa! Or has ProgressNow moved on to the next prop?
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Colorado minimum wage is now $10.20 /hour, after Colorado voters resoundingly passed Amendment 70, and minimum wage will increase each year until it is $12 an hour in 2020.
Colorado's economy is booming – and the higher wages have contributed to the boom. I also credit renewable energy and cannabis jobs for the growth. We have one of the best economies in the country, with 2.9% unemployment, great job market.
Rents are high and housing is scarce – that's the downside of being so prosperous. So my guess is that things have improved some for Melissa, getting higher wages. Colorado has also kept its Health Exchange, and low income people like Melissa can still get their health care subsidized.
I doubt if PCN is going to run a Melissa update just because you asked them to, but then again your concern is touching. Perhaps you can reach out to residents at your local homeless shelter and ask them if getting $2 more per hour now has helped them or hurt them. We'll wait with bated breath for your response.
Here’s the original video, since you hadn’t linked to it.
I'm touched by your concern for Melissa as well. Perhaps better questions might be: what would Melissa’s minimum wage be today if it had simply kept up with inflation? A gradual rise over time that could have been easily absorbed in small increments. Or, what has a $15 minimum done to
destroy(not) affect the Seattle economy? At the risk of quoting Henry Ford for so many obvious reasons, the guy understood that his workers needed living wages to buy goods that fuel an economy.Or, we can keep going down this road, destroying the real job creators? (spoiler alert: it's a consumer with disposable income).
Bowman? Do you really exist or is this an avatar controlled by Willie Nelson?
I’ll let you decide for yourself next Saturday? We’ll have our ‘Tip and Ronnie’ moment – I know you’re old enough to remember those days 😁
PS: I look forward to you directly responding to the questions posed above. So far you get an A+ for an ‘artful dodge’.
Bowman. Can’t make it next Saturday, got a friend in town from Missouri. Give my regards.
No politics at meet-up, enough of that here. I agree workers need to be paid for the skill set that adds value to the product or service. That skill set is what makes a living wage. Melissa has a minimum skill set hence a minimum wage.
A minimum wage will always be a minimum wage no matter what dollar number you attach to it, $15, $20 or even $100, it will always be the minimum.
If the real job creator is the consumer, with disposable income, who is doing the most to destroy a living wage? The GOVERNEMENT! Every time the Governement spends a dollar your disposable income goes down because the Government gets it from you.
Sorry to hear that, Pear. Will look forward to the next opportunity.
Not true, Pear. The Trump administration, like the Bushes that preceded it, does not believe in taking money by taxes. It just borrows from China. But at least the Bushes were smart enough to let China run a trade surplus, which they then borrowed to pay for tax cuts. Trump wants to wreck world trade and still borrow money. In the end, he will have to monetize the debt, printing press money, with high inflation. We will pay a terrible price for the stupidest president in America history.
Plus, he stinks.
God Almighty, Trump stinks!
He has a very good brain (attached to his mouth). Or something. Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States…
At 22 trillion in debt, the price has already been paid.
Be truthful Pear, your side of the aisle only cares about the deficit when they’re the minority party.
Yep, the editors of Fortune Magazine nailed it:
Naturally, it'll have to be up to Democrats to shovel up all of the GOP elephant crap they leave behind, letting guys like Pear to blame it all on us due to their lack of common sense and logic.
Rember that time the black guy in the White House called for transparency and moved the credit card purchases of the Iraq War from 'off balance sheet' to 'fully disclosed'? Or that time Cheney said 'deficits don't matter'?
Yes, Republicans are very familiar with using accounting tricks to pretend they are doing something productive:
When government attempts to reign them in and close loopholes the lobbyists, like biblical locusts, descend upon Capitol Hill, successfully thwarting said efforts (funded by the free cash they have exploited via the loopholes). Then, when they're caught with their pants down they claim they're working within the confines of the law.
Do I have that about right, Pear?
It's like the little boy who shoots his parents and then pleads mercy upon the courts because he's an orphan. Except in this case, no need to plead: the makeup of the courts over the next several decades will make sure
Little TommyWall Street will continue its plunder on behalf of the 0.01%.Neither side cares.
That's absurd. Republicans like Reagan, Bush and Trump care very much about deficits, as in, "Merry Christmas fellow millionaires! We'll keep cutting your taxes until we finally stop wasting any spending on weak, poor, old or sick people who are drinking our wine, eating our food, breathing our air! God is going to destroy the Earth anyway, so eat, drink and be merry until the End Days arrive!"
Pear, to the extent your description of GOVERNEMENT! [sic] is lobbyists and the military-industrial complex, we are in complete agreement.
If only Melissa would just work a little harder?
MarketWatch: Americans are working hard and getting nowhere
Apparently according to Pear, every dollar the government spends on medical research, building and maintaining our infrastructure, ensuring clean food, water and air, is a dollar *not* spent on a comic book or a pack of mints!
Taxes are meant to consolidate funding for necessary things individuals or businesses couldn't afford to build for themselves.
Next up, Pear explains why insurance is a ripoff because everyone has to pay into the system, but only those few lucky ones that get sick or die ever get their money's worth!
Government spending — even spending for "military" purposes — can be a drain or a boon to economic growth.
As of now, both major parties have some people worried about the increase in spending, rising deficits, and spiraling debt. Unfortunately, neither side's "worried" people are enough to set policy within their own party and thus far, there are few indeed willing to develop a bi-partisan grand bargain, as that "cooperation" element of politics has been repeatedly walloped in primaries. (Neither Simpson OR Bowles are invited to speak to many political party dinners these days.)
ProgressNow Colorado doesn’t care about Melissa. Melissa is a tool to advance a socialist, communist economic model that puts powerful elites in charge of a subservient population. There is no freedom or liberty in their world but hey, everyone gets to wear a ribbon that shows they care.
The economy is booming, yes it is, I know it first hand. Thank you President Trump, if this is “V’s” version of stink, I like it! It doesn’t matter if it’s the wind or pot industries, or maybe that there are multiple 10 plus story office building going up every week in the area, people are working, the operative word, working.
Are you saying that an extra $2 per hour will lift a homeless person out of being homeless? So 2 dollars is the cure for mental illness, drug addiction, alcoholism, criminal activity?
No I don’t really care/concern for Melissa, because Melissa doesn’t care or have concern for Melissa. If Melissa cared about Melissa she would find a way not to have to ask government for a raise. The Government is not our friend, unless you are the government. I care about the union tradesmen, the software engineer, the truck drivers, the construction worker, the healthcare worker, the accountants, the public employees, communication workers, farmers, sales people of all types, machinists, painters, manufacturing workers, engineers, railroad workers and many others who make America work in a Capitalist society.
And I don’t spend every moment being angry.
I don't even know where to start. Too many facts wrong (Melissa didn't "ask government for a raise," for starters). But I suspect that you understand my points perfectly well – bottom line being that Amendment 70, which raised CO's minimum wage , was overwhelmingly approved by voters who were smarter than you, apparently, because their sneaky socialist ploy worked to help make Colorado the boom state that it is. In spite of your beloved Trump.
And at this point, you're just trolling for comments on your diary – which I certainly understand.
The not-skinny cook is in charge of putting together the next Pols meetup on the 14th at some Capitol Hill place – if Bowman can make it, you’ll have a chance to see for yourself if he is Willie’s avatar. (I suspect Willie has more important things to do…)
You're a pleasant enough person in real life. I think you probably have enough sense and heart to see around your party line blinders.
You are right, I was trolling. So much of this site is just an echo chamber of group think. It has lost my attention. Trump stink, Trump is Hitler, Republicans are Nazi’s, Obama was God on earth, hate everything not like me, hate 24/7/365, resist.
It’s not good to read or write this stuff every day. It’s much more fun and useful to get out and meet people. That’s where the true connection is made. Won’t be able to make a 14th, give my regards to the group.
Republicans are Nazi’s
Not ALL of them. Just most.
In fact, I said something nice about B.J. Nikkel just yesterday on this site. Can you identify a Democrat about whom you've said something favorable?
Yes, I think Hick has been good for business in Colorado. His social policy coattails leave something to be desired.
On Pols, we have enough political differences in strategy and tactics that it isn't only an echo chamber. We can get heated about even our small differences of opinion on policy, strategy and tactics.
Even Colorado's little $2 boost to the minimum wage has meant people being able to afford a car, or housing, or to be able to quit that 2nd or 3rd job and spend time with their families, which I'd guess that you would support.
It is difficult to dispassionately discuss issues when people's lives are on the line. So I'm never going to apologize for caring about, writing about, and talking politics.
Even though we probably disagree about most things, I believe that it's important to see and acknowledge different points of view, and to keep listening to people with whom you disagree. It's also hard to do well.
I appreciate that you have been willing to present a different perspective on here, and yes, it was nice to meet face to face and to socialize as human beings, not just Kabuki masks of "liberal" and "conservative" .
Even ‘beet red’ Nebraska jumped on that train four years ago.
PS: Trump has had practically zero to do with our booming economy. Our current fortunes are due to a number of progressive issues put in place over the last decade-plus.
Melissa isn’t a beggar, although they exist. What’s different this time around is the growing gap between the ‘haves’ and ‘have-nots’ is constructed.
Passed a sign yesterday, full time at Arby’s 11.25 hour. How can this be when the minimum is $10.20?
Do you know what minimum means?
It doesn't say "maximum wage"..ever heard of competition?
May also be "up to" $11
First its a minimum wage. Then its "healthcare." Next thing you know, we have a higher quality-of-life and longer life expectancy! I
ts a libprog (aka commie socialist) plot and all of you are either complicit, or merely useful idiots, being manipulated by the likes of Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, and Pol Pot! One need only cherry-pick totally irrelevant examples from history THE HORROR THE HORROR to see what I say is true. Everybody says so. Believe me.