Friday Open Thread

“Leadership is a potent combination of strategy and character. But if you must be without one, be without the strategy.”

–Norman Schwarzkopf

39 Community Comments, Facebook Comments

  1. Voyageur says:

    Trump stinks.

    Manafort could go to jail today.

    Let the singing begin.

    The long arm of the law is closing in on Trump.

    Stay upwind, America.

  2. Gray in Mountains says:

    I agree with all the sentiments expressed above. But, another thing…

    I have a little heartburn about UAF voting in our primary. It is not a good long term solution to a problem that exists. I'd like to suggest that UAF have their very own primary. Let them collect signatures to get on ballot and select their candidate. We'd probably end up with a 3 way every election so let's have an instant run off.

    • RepealAndReplace says:

      If the numbers put out so far as to the number of indies participating in either party's primary is any indication, you need not worry about them effecting the outcome.

      I never expected this massive influx of unaffiliated voters participating in the primaries. Some may be unaffiliated as a matter of principle (i.e., both parties are rotten).

      But most indies are apathetic. While they complain about the wretched choices they have in November, they cannot be bothered getting involved in the process earlier in the year.

      • davebarnes says:

        "Some may be unaffiliated as a matter of" a desire to choose which primary to participate in.

        "Some may be unaffiliated as a matter of" a desire to [ineffectively] reduce the amount of political crap (phone calls, junk mail) they receive.

        • mamajama55 says:

          So Dave, now that you could theoretically turn in either primary ballot (depending on how much ratfucking you want to do), do you receive twice as much political mail?

          Just curious.

      • Duke Cox says:

        True, dat.                                            

      • JohnInDenver says:


        Why do you think unaffiliated are not going to effect the outcome? As of June 14, the illustrious Secretary of State reports 234,065 ballots turned in — 49,661 unaffiliated. That's 21% of all ballots, a number that certainly can impact primary, multi-candidate races.


        • RepealAndReplace says:

          That's an increase from the number which was posted last week when it was much smaller even as a percentage. So I stand corrected. In a close race, they could make a difference.

  3. Pseudonymous says:

    Manafort to await trial in Graybar Hotel.  Good news is– no more ankle monitors! (he had two).

  4. Zappatero says:

    Trump going down. He will go down swinging and doing as much damage to our Democracy as possible. He will not finish out his term, but Democrats do no one any good by waiting until November in some kind of strategic electoral move. The fact that Colorado’s Democratic congressional delegation is woefully silent as this goes down in real time, and that CPols doesn’t seem to have any thought of prodding those representatives, is a sign of cowardice and impotence that must change. 

    • unnamed says:

      As opposed to the fact that some of them have been speaking out or outright protesting the separation of immigrant children from their parents.  I am seeing more and more of that from Dems in and out of Colorado.

    • Voyageur says:

      Don 't you think the inaction of Colorado Democrats is Chris Cillizza's fault, Zappy?

      • unnamed says:

        Why blame Cillizza when he can blame SFL Bennet?

        • Voyageur says:

          Beca use Bennet is just a Cillizza puppet, that's why. 

          Yeesh.  Do I have do all the heavy lifting around here?

        • Zappatero says:

          I’ll be clear: Bennet is a fucking coward for any number of reasons: 1) he values bipartisanship over every other principle of governance. This is a dodge. 2) He only endorses the safest policy choices on his own. 3) He would obviously be a Republican but for their antidiluvian social beliefs. 

          All of this points to someone playing it safe who will retire an 80-year-old senator who hasn’t done anything of significance his entire career. And CPOLS will sponsor a Gofundme for his statue. 

          • RepealAndReplace says:

            Using your definition, pretty much everyone is, at some point, a fucking coward.

            He would obviously be a Republican but for their antediluvian beliefs….

            So would I. What is your point?

      • Zappatero says:

        That would be idiotic. How  could you jump to such a conclusion? … oh, wait. 

        The reason I criticize Jason and Alva’s reliance on Cillizza is that he is one of the most superficial, and WRONG, pundits who had a large investment in the Bullshit email story that helped elect our current president, and every time they quote him they encourage his incompetence. 

    • JohnInDenver says:

      I'm continually confused by your stance, Zappatero.

      What would you have Democrats DO? Why do you see them (us?) as "waiting until November"?

      What would be a satisfactory statement that would have you stop bemoaning, claiming our Congressional delegation are "woefully silent as this goes down in real time" ?? A few (non-Colorado) Democrats have actually introduced the initial resolution calling for an impeachment investigation — which got voted down. Most others (including the Colorado delegation) have sponsored or co-sponsored resolutions protecting the Special Counsel as he conducts his investigation — which have been voted down. All of the Colorado delegation have objected to various aspects of the Trump Sad!-ministration, using their positions on committees and their communication options to rouse a response on particular issues.

      And while I'm at it, care to divulge which candidate is adequate to draw your support? I'm particularly curious about the present governor's race, but if you prefer to share some other commitment, I'd be happy to read that, too.

      • RepealAndReplace says:

        What would you have Democrats DO?

        Set their hair on fire, jump up and down, and nominate a bunch of Bolsheviks to run in competitive districts.

        Oh, and scream FREE STUFF at the top of their lungs.

        • notaskinnycook says:

          That's the one, R&R. Zappy would be happy with nothing less than a reanimated Che Guevara. I'd argue with him directly, but he's just become tiresome.


  5. Zappatero says:

    Check and Mate. 

    Have a nice day, all!

    • unnamed says:

      You can't checkmate yourself when all you play is checkers.

    • mamajama55 says:

      Zap – acknowledge the Master Baiters, but don't respond to the bait. You're all fellow members of the Democratic circular firing squad, plinking away at anyone attempting real world change, while reserving your own activism for snarky comments and writing the occasional check. 

      It's a fair question about what you want Dems to do… impeachment,  support single payer health care, support ____ policy, what?

      I've been critical of Bennet for his loyalty to the financial services industry, which got us into the PERA hole we're still digging out of. But he's also become a worthy spokesman for public lands, hemp, public health, and other issues.

      I don't read Chris Cilliza. I have no idea why you are so critical of Jason (Bane, Salzman, or both?) They're competent journalists and provide us with a forum here.

  6. Pseudonymous says:

    Exclusive: Democrats, anticipating heated primary, set earlier 2020 convention date

    The Democratic National Convention is slated to take place from July 13 to July 16, 2020, almost two weeks earlier than the 2016 convention.

    Democrats are currently considering eight host cities for their convention: Atlanta; Birmingham, Alabama; Denver; Houston; Miami Beach; Milwaukee; New York; and San Francisco.

  7. mamajama55 says:

    Rob Rogers, a  25-year veteran political cartoonist for the Pittsburgh Post Gazette, lost his job when he published the following cartoon:

    The Post Gazette was acquired by Block Communications, which is owned by the family of Paul Block, an ardent Trump supporter: The Gazette did publish a racist cartoon, but is refusing to run Rob Roger's anti-Trump work (19 of his cartoons were killed this year) –   Columbia Journalism Review

    As with our Denver Post, Block, following the Alden / Digital First Media model fired all the union people when the contract expired, and outsourced the printing.

    What you can do: continue to work for independent media. Follow Rob Rogers on Twitter – that's his only forum now.

  8. MichaelBowman says:

    Trump Wants to Bail Out Coal and Nuclear Power. Here’s Why That Will Be Hard.

    When Mr. Trump came into office, he vowed to revive America’s coal mining industry by rolling back Obama-era environmental regulations. But coal keeps getting edged out by cheaper and cleaner alternatives.

    For many utilities, the decision to abandon coal comes down to simple economics. Xcel Energy, Colorado’s largest electric utility, recently concluded that it could save $213 million by retiring two of its older coal-fired units a decade ahead of schedule and replacing them with a mix of wind, solar, battery storage and natural gas.

    “We built a lot of our coal fleet 40 years ago, and it’s costly to maintain,” said Joshua D. Rhodes, an energy expert at the University of Texas Austin. “Many utilities are now finding that there are plenty of lower-cost options.”

  9. mamajama55 says:

    Dreamers* and allies held vigil outside Gardner's Yuma home tonight. The Senator was down in Durango meeting with  people about the wildfire down there. His wife was at home, but escorted out.

    The demonstration was very peaceful – chanting, singing, music, poetry, stories. But they made their point- Gardner needs to quit pretending to care about immigration reform, quit waffling and talking out of both sides of his mouth, and actually work to get a humane policy passed.

    *”Dreamers” are young people brought to the USA as children, but who grew up here and are seeking to become citizens.

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