Tuesday Open Thread

“You can only really yell at the players you trust.”

–Bill Parcells

17 Community Comments, Facebook Comments

  1. Zappatero says:

    Dems: don’t get too cocky about 2018. Remember, Trump was going to lose according to everyone but his inner circle. If he has a re-elect in 2020 with a Republican Congress we will be seeing the most hideous campaign tactics in the history of mankind. 

    • RepealAndReplace says:

      In the meantime, we need to work harder at purifying the Democratic Party by ridding ourselves of those DINOs.

      • Conserv. Head Banger says:

        Here I agree with Zappatero. Hillary lost the 2016 election due to complacency on the part of her senior campaign staff; like taking Wisconsin, Michigan,  Pennsylvania for granted. Mark Udall lost in 2014 for similar reasons.

  2. mamajama55 says:

    Denver District Court Judge Laff will rule on an important case that will set precedent for  environmental justice law- whether Extraction Oil and Gas will continue to be able to poison the air and risk the health of poor kids of color at Bella Romero Academy in Greeley.

    Bella Romero is 82% Latino. Extraction decided not to build a similar well installation next to Frontier Academy, which is 73% white.

    Dave Young, candidate for Treasurer, teacher, and state representative from Greeley, has yet to comment on the Bella Romero case.

    Image below from Fractracker: Bella Romero playground overlooking proposed well site.


  3. Pseudonymous says:

    Bennet gets tough knocks from a few Polsters, so I think it's important to point out when he's making real strides to support people who are genuinely struggling.

    Democrats Add Momentum to G.O.P. Push to Loosen Banking Rules

    WASHINGTON — The most significant attempt to loosen rules imposed in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis is underway in Congress as the Senate looks to pass legislation within the next month that would roll back restrictions on swaths of the finance industry.

    Buoyed by their success in rewriting the tax code, the Trump administration and Republican lawmakers have now set their sights on helping the financial industry, which has been engaged in a quiet but concerted push to relax many post-crisis rules and regulatory obligations, particularly for thousands of small- and medium-sized banks.

    But unlike the $1.5 trillion tax overhaul, which passed along party lines, the effort to loosen the post-crisis rules is somewhat bipartisan. A group of Senate Democrats has joined Republicans to support legislation that would mark the first major revision of the 2010 Dodd-Frank Act, a signature accomplishment of President Barack Obama that has been deemed “a disaster” by President Trump.

    Upper Thurstonia isn't a place, it's a state of mind.

  4. Pseudonymous says:


    Democrats Condemned Trump's Language and Signed on to His Policy

    At some point, the Washington debate shifted from whether and how we will find some path to legal residency or citizenship for persons currently living here without either—the bipartisan consensus goal, opposed only by hardline right-wingers, from approximately the end of the Clinton presidency up through Trump’s inauguration—to whether and how we will change our immigration laws to restrict future immigration through official channels. The contours of those proposed restrictions are now the topic of discussion, though it is broadly agreed that the types of the immigrants to be excluded are largely the ones from countries Trump refers to as “shitholes.”

    This is why, when Durbin condemned Trump’s remarks, he didn’t actually condemn the idea of curbing “chain migration,” an inharmonious term for a policy designed to let Americans bring their families to live with them. What he did instead was make up a nonsense reason why Trump shouldn’t use that term.

    • Conserv. Head Banger says:

      I don't have a problem with immigrants bringing in members of their immediate families: parents, spouse, children, maybe even siblings. But when it gets to extended family like third cousins and somebody's great aunt three times removed, then, yes, that sort of chain migration should not be allowed.

      And I also have some affinity for allowing in more people with technical skills that our economy needs, or can use. Australia, Canada, New Zealand go this way, why not the US? Australia deals with uneducated economic migrants in that, if caught, they are transferred to Papua New Guinea and housed there at Australian expense. Maybe they eventually get into Australia, and maybe they get returned home.

      The late Edward Abbey had an interesting saying about immigrants coming up from Mexico and points south. Meet them at the border with open arms, and then give them arms so they can go back home and solve their own problems. 

      • The realist says:

        "And I also have some affinity for allowing in more people with technical skills that our economy needs, or can use."

        Then, please, send Donald Trump's mother home (whose technical skills when she immigrated were "maid"), before she gives birth.

      • notaskinnycook says:

        CHB, reading your recitation of who should be admitted made me think of the "Baby Huey" cartoon from Who Framed Roger Rabbit

        "Why, I'll take care of him like he was my own brother. Or my own sister.  Or my brother's sister. Or my second cousin who was twice removed. Or the ninth cousin who is nine times removed from his place off side. Or like a 16th cousin…who was sixteen times removed from my mother's side. Or a 32nd cousin who was 37 times removed from his father's side. Or like my 17th cousin who was 156 times removed, from any side!

      • mamajama55 says:

        So…you're advocating for gun running at the border? Shades of "Fast and Furious"!wink

        In the course of discussing a run-of-the-mill writing assignment ( Describe what you would do and where you would go in a country you choose), 11 and 12 year old kids were describing a nightmare scenario in today's Mexico:

        Competing gangs of rent-a-cops, armed gangsters lining people up and extorting from them, people put broken glass and barbed wire on their roofs to deter thieves, there aren't any street festivals at night because nobody feels safe walking at night anymore, there are sometimes dead bodies on the road that nobody stops to check on, feral dogs roam the streets. Police feel compelled to work in full body armor and carry assault weapons, just so that they can out-gun the gangsters.

        These are not the tourist town scenarios. This is what's happening in the neighborhoods of children who are American citizens, but who have families in Mexico. They are not political. But they understand that there is no future for them in Mexico today.

        I loved Mexico when I visited there 20 years ago. It is not the Mexico of today. Yes, Mexican corruption and fraudulent elections got it where it is today. So did American imperialism and the appetite for illegal drugs. I don't think that adding more guns to the mix is going to help anybody.

        Dreamers are taking over Senate offices today, because this is their reality, too…many will be deported to countries they don't know and that can't sustain them, because of Republican racism and bad policy.

      • Diogenesdemar says:

        Australia’s incarceration of immigrants on New Guinea has been nothing less than a crime against humanity.  I wouldn’t hold that up as anything other than inhumane, barbaric, or intolerable — to simply call it shameful is itself criminal,

  5. Old Time Dem says:

    Spouse, children, and siblings are allowed. That's it. Why create a strawman?

  6. MichaelBowman says:

    Someone thinks we need to fix things before it's all just one big shit hole…

    BlackRock’s Message: Contribute to Society, or Risk Losing Our Support

    This could be a watershed moment in Wall Street investing. Fink has the clout to make this kind of demand: His firm manages more than $6 trillion in investments through 401(k) plans, exchange-traded funds and mutual funds, making it the largest investor in the world.

    “Society is demanding that companies, both public and private, serve a social purpose,” he wrote in a draft of the letter that was shared with me. “To prosper over time, every company must not only deliver financial performance, but also show how it makes a positive contribution to society.”


    • mamajama55 says:

      Wow. That's actually good news. I have to wonder what prompted Mr. Fink's 180 degree philosophical turn. Does he have grandchildren?

      Perhaps the vision of catastrophic climate change, a permanent and growing underclass, and imported Russian-style oligarchy making "business as usual" impossible to sustain inspired him to use his powers for good.

    • Diogenesdemar says:

      I hope to god that “a positive contribution to society” doesn’t just get defined away, and watered down, by the lawyers and hacks until it means nothing more than “we provide jobs and pay workers” . . .

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