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March 27, 2017 07:14 AM UTC

Monday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“The great proof of madness is the disproportion of one’s designs to one’s means.”

–Napoleon Bonaparte

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    1. Sebastian Gorka, like Smellyanne,  are two peas in a pod…

      Sebastian Gorka, now a fierce defender of Trump, once said he had 'no depth' and was 'full of bluster'

      "On the right the Republican side, we have the New York real estate mogul who's very full of bluster, full of sturm und drang, makes lots of statements about how we're going to win and how the US army is going to be undefeatable, but there's no depth," he said. "There's no plan. There's no strategy. So I can't judge him because he's really a black hole, so the last one that's really serious is Senator Cruz."

       

  1. Cardinal Burke: If Pope won’t answer dubia, ‘we simply will have to correct the situation’ – NewsMon Mar 27, 2017 – 9:55 am EST

    So I scouted for Pope Francis news this morning, and found this about Francis not answering "dubia". Says I, "Why should Frank answer Dubia? Dubia hasn't been President for over 8 years now. "

    Turns out that a "dubia" is some religious pronouncement, in this case about homosexuality, contraception, divorce, remarriage, and communion. These conservative cardinals are threatening the People's Pope with a "formal correction" if he doesn't give them some "moral clarity" on these issues.

    This, together with some mysterious anti-Francis posters which have appeared overnight in Rome, is probably associated with Trump senior advisor Steve Bannon. Bannon openly opposes Pope Francis, whose messages of peace, compassion, and tolerance counter those of Bannon / Trump administration.  Bannon's ally in this is Cardinal Raymond Burke, who is proposing that Francis answer the "dubia" or face a formal rebuke from the church.

    OK, I'm a Unitarian heathen pagan, and no Catholic "dubia" will make much nevermind to me.  But I'm a believer. I like Francis' messages of peace, compassion, and tolerance, and yes, I do think that the world needs Francis' "moral clarity", if not precisely the moral clarity (intolerance, condemnation, and punishment) which Bannon and Burke promote.

    BTW, Seeking for "moral clarity" from a Trump administration official should send your irony meter off the scale.

    This authoritarian right wing BS and foreign interference  has not just f'd up our American elections – these people have ambitions to spread their disease to France, (via "French Trump" candidate Marie Le Pen) the European Union, and now to millions of Catholics worldwide. And yes, Cardinal Burke does have ties to Putin, to Breitbart, and the whole far right wing cabal, which seeks to reassert white Christian dominance in the style of the worst excesses of the Catholic church.

    The  good news is that this effort is not winning everywhere; frequent Breitbart contributor Geert Wilders was not elected in Holland; Cardinal Burke's undermining was crushed by Pope Francis, and fears of a papal “coup” seem to be overblown. However, in France, Marine Le Pen's candidacy is polling higher than anyone else's in a crowded field of candidates. France could elect a female Trump, and Bannon could score another beachhead in his dream of a new world order, in which capitalism furthers  "western Judeo-Christian" values. The vehicle for spreading those "values", quite simply, is war. Bannon is a big fan of war, specifically war on a global scale.

    An international market for Breitbart News was part of that dream; but now with the President's ear, as well as influencers within the Catholic church and some European governments, Bannon's  reach has expanded exponientially.

    If this doesn't scare the crap out of you, it should.

      1. That is an excellent "big picture" piece, cook. Thanks for posting the link. Bannon's Breitbart News supported all of these nationalist "populist" candidates.

        Bannon is right about one thing; we are in a "war of values" – Values of secularism, participatory democracy, tolerance, peace, and compassion, vs. those of bigotry, corporate authoritarianism,  and religiously-justified intolerance.  The teapot tempest inside the Vatican, and the ginned-up fear of immigrants in this country are just two aspects of this global conflict of values.

         We push back by voting, writing, marching, showing up, using our purchasing power, speaking out, creating art, calling up, and every other duty of a citizen in a democracy. That is  our part in this "war of values".

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