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February 19, 2018 06:32 AM UTC

Presidents Day Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

Today is the day we honor our commander in chief.

Remember, to not do so could be considered treason.

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26 thoughts on “Presidents Day Open Thread

    1. This is glorious. These kids, brought up on "gun drills" the way the Boomers were on atomic bomb drills, are refusing to be victims;standing up and fighting back. Here's hoping this wave of angry young people swamps the "god, guns and gays" legislators right out of office and out of power.

  1. This one’s for Nutlid…

    “Prohibition… goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes… A prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded. ~Abraham Lincoln

  2. Senator Cory Gardner (R-NRA) needs to start thinking about what he plans to do after he loses his re-election campaign:

    Don’t Let My Classmates’ Deaths Be in Vain

    By CHRISTINE YAREDFEB. 18, 2018

    We need to vote for those who are for stricter laws and kick out those who won’t take action. We need to expose the truth about gun violence and the corruption around guns. Please.

    A lot of politically aware teenagers will be newly minted voters in 2020. Mike Coffman should also take note.

    1. These students have clearly defined the problem…and its solution.

      Wayne La Pierre has the blood of innocents on his hands. The rank and file of the NRA needs to make a choice. Does the NRA represent people or corporations..?..

      If it is the former…LaPierre needs to go. He has sold his soul to the Devil, and needs to be removed from his leadership role. If the NRA doesn't change itself…it will be done by the community.

      Too many have died because YOU are a gun industry toady, Sen. Gardner…why don't you set an example and sponsor legislation to ban possession of military weaponry by citizens?

       

    2. Some of them already are, Davie. I don't know if kids start school later in Florida than elsewhere, but several of the seniors the media are talking to are 18 and 19.
      They are fired up to vote the lawmakers they believe helped kill their classmates out

      1. This time, this tragedy will not simply fade away.  It has awakened the next generation of activists.  The author of that article is just a freshman in high school, and the impact of guns on her and her friends lives (and deaths) will be everlasting.

        1. Strange Bedfellows……… I already cited a reference from Hightower Lowdown about how an unlikely coalition of progressives and common sense conservatives took back the Colorado Springs city council last year from the minions of the bloated plutocrats.

          1. Chris Hayes of MSNBC, some years ago,  did a Venn diagram of the interface between the Tea Party agenda and that of the 99% movement. There was a significant overlap of shared concerns but disagreement on the culprits.

            The Tea Partiers believed the "little guy" was being screwed by the government…the 99%ers believed the little guy was getting screwed by the banks and big business. I said then and it continues to be true..there is no difference between the two. They were both right.

            As it currently stands, thousands of long time Republicans are deciding they cannot become "Trumpublicans". 

            Now is the time for those who believe the words at the foot of the Statue of Liberty are still relevant, to remove the minions of Big Money. I believe American voters will completely rebuke the Lords of Wall Street.

            Republicans let this happen…they need to join with Democrats and Independents to rid our nation of these thieving, racist, betrayers of our constitution…these Russian sympathizers…these Trumpians.

             

             

             

             

            1. Agree on all accounts, Duke I had a lot of empathy for the early Tea Party; they had rightly identified  the culprits. Then along came Chuck and Dave and the ‘party’ transformed to a ‘freak show’. 

  3. I bookmarked these two articles some time back as bookends to a conversation about those who feel 'voiceless'.  The first was the December Denver Post article, Colorado’s growing political divide leaves rural communities feeling forgotten and voiceless; the second, an interview of Fr. Greg Boyle by Krista Tippett on inner-city gangs.  There's little regarding this feeling that separates a farmer from Iliff from a Los Angeles, innercity gang member.  The common thread is a political system that gives those without a seven-figure bank account a voice; one that defines 'them'(whoever they may be from your personal perspective) as the enemy. As it turns out there's nothing but 'us'; we could live in a world of abundance.  

    There's enough for everyone.  

    Longer tables, not taller walls.  

    If we want to change the world, let's change the metaphor.  

    The Boyle interview is nearly an hour long but well worth the time. 

     

    1. The two articles share themes of compassion and community. There is no "them" – it's all "us". I liked the Boyle interview a lot. He must be one of those people who light the way forward.

      What's needed, I think, is some kind of foreign exchange program. Live for two weeks in an alien environment. Two weeks in Montbello, two weeks in Brush. We used to have a program like that in my high school. Expeditionary learning.

      I have to say that just once, I'd like to see one of these "Trumper Safari" pieces speak to the truly voiceless rural people – the Somali meat plant workers, the Mexicana high school student, the brave little striving Democrats who are still not quite brave enough to put up a D candidate against a Sonnenberg or a Becker.  

      That would be a more balanced picture of rural Colorado.  

      1. We live in a sound bite world so programs like this don't get the traction they're due. I think the rural-urban exchange program is a great idea.  Maybe some enterprising legislator can figure out a way to direct some of the marijuana tax dollars to a 'scholarship' program to foster deeper understanding between the two camps.  As we're seeing with the Florida high school kids re: guns, perhaps kids are the only constituents able to move our rural voices beyond 'Obama Tears' schticks and into authentic discussions on the future of rural Colorado and the interdependency with our urban counterparts. 

        I'm sure you've seen this, but for those reading this post who haven't, please read the Luke Runyon piece "The High Cost of Cheap Meat".  Then for good measure read "Methland".  I'm not a vegan but this construct makes me think about it a lot; what we've allowed to happen to the industrial meat complex in this country since the days of George Gillette is borderline criminal.  

  4. I just got my 2017 tax returns back from the accountant today. She also included an analysis of what my taxes would have been if we were already under next year’s “Tax Cut and Jobs Act.” Bottom line, I would have paid an additional $837 federal income taxes, and a proportional corresponding increase as a result in my State taxes.

    Guess I won’t be getting that Costco membership next year, after all?

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