Monday Open Thread

“Be the flame, not the moth.”

–Giacomo Casanova

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  1. FrankUnderwood says:


    Today's N.Y. Times has a story about the white supremacist group connected to Dylann Roof and all the money the group has given to Republican candidates including Ted Cruz, Rand Paul and Rick Santorum.


  2. Zappatero says:

    Democrats had their "come to Jesus" moment wrt racism within the party. Yes, D's were obstructionists and Luddites on slavery and civil rights for decades – Sean Hannity never fails to remind his listeners of this little fact;  and he never manages to explain the evolution of the 2 parties over time to those same halfwits:

    But slavery wasn't just a chapter in American history. It was, and remains, our original sin. The Democratic Party, once home to the KKK and the white supremacists who called the South home, has had its reckoning with it. In the "greatest trade in American political history," Republicans acquired states' rights, secession and nullification in exchange for Democratic ownership of the general welfare, due process and equal protection in a more perfect Union.

    Over time, the Party of FDR, JFK and LBJ got New England and the new West, while the solid south went to the Party of Lincoln. Democrats got John Lewis, Martin Luther King, Jr. and Lincoln himself.

    The GOP got Jesse Helms, Strom Thurmond, David Duke and Steve Scalise. (As the always colorful former Louisiana Democratic Governor Edwin Edwards aptly described Duke, "We're both wizards under the sheets.")

    For today's Republican Party and its stranglehold on the South, neo-Confederate nostalgia is a feature, not a bug. Obamacare, abortion, gun control and the national debt are just new forms of slavery. If the Supreme Court, as expected, ends state bans on gay marriage,evangelical leaders and GOP presidential candidates including Rick Santorum and Mike Huckabee have called for civil disobedience. North Carolina Republicans have told Tar Heel State wedding commissioners they need not do their jobs for same-sex couples. Texas GOP leaders, including Governor Ted Abbott and Congressman Louie Gohmert, have warned that the U.S. military's Jade Helm exercises are just a ruse for the feds to take over the Lone Star State.

    The transformation of Dixie from a Democratic to a Republican bastion has proceeded largely as Nixon Southern Strategy architect Kevin Phillips ("from now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don't need any more than that") hoped and President Lyndon Johnson feared ("there goes the South for a generation"). In a telling moment two generations later, South Carolina Republican Congressman Joe Wilson shouted "you lie" at the first African American president during a joint session of Congress. While many Americans responded with shock and scorn, others replied with cash for Wilson's campaign coffers. One gun manufacturer commemorated the event by offering a receiver for the AR-15 rifle featuring Wilson's words "you lie" etched into the anodized metal. That episode recalled another one involving one of Wilson's Palmetto State predecessors back in 1856, when admirers sent canes to South Carolina Rep. Preston Brooks after he viciously caned abolitionist Massachusetts Senator Charles Sumner in the Capitol. 

    Do both sides "do it"? 

    Just came across the origins of our Juneteenth celebrations and what the wonderful citizens of Texas did after the Civil War:

    Juneteenth is the oldest known celebration commemorating the ending of slavery in the United States.  Dating back to 1865, it was on June 19th that Union soldiers, led by Major General Gordon Granger, landed at Galveston, Texas with news that the war had ended and that the enslaved were now free – two and a half years after President Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation of January 1, 1863.

    The Emancipation Proclamation had little impact on the Texans due to the minimal number of Union troops to enforce the new Executive Order. However, with the surrender of General Lee in April of 1865, and the arrival of General Granger’s regiment, the forces were finally strong enough to influence and overcome the resistance.

    Attempts to explain this two and a half year delay in the receipt of this important news is that it was deliberately withheld by the enslavers to maintain the labor force on the plantations.


    Mississippi, the state that gifted the nation with Haley Barbour, Trent Lott

    The 13th Amendment to the Constitution, which abolished slavery, was ratified in 1865. Lawmakers in Mississippi, however, only got around to officially ratifying the amendment last month — 148 years later — thanks to the movie "Lincoln."

    The state's historical oversight came to light after Mississippi resident Ranjan Batra saw the Steven Spielberg-directed film last November, the Clarion-Ledger reports.

    After watching the film, which depicts the political fight to pass the 13th Amendment, Batra did some research. He learned that the amendment was ratified after three-fourths of the states backed it in December 1865. Four remaining states all eventually ratified the amendment — except for Mississippi. Mississippi voted to ratify the amendment in 1995 but failed to make it official by notifying the U.S. Archivist.


    • Duke Cox says:

      Nice work, Zap….

      I remember life in the segregated south (Georgia) all too well…

      The Republican party is trying to dance on a tightrope.. I think the "Old/New " Republican ala Mike Coffman and Cory Gardner is not going to work for much longer…

      Nixon and the RNC accepted the racist mantle in order to win elections, as I understand it. Johnsons’ lost southern generation may be about over.

      This is about to really bite them in the ass…hard.


      • FrankUnderwood says:

        Nixon and the RNC accepted the racist mantle in order to win elections

        So true. It's like that old saying, "One man's garbage is another man's treasure."  The Democrats started shit-canning the likes of J. Strom Thurmond (w/ the civil rights plank in the '48 convention platform), then Lester Maddox and George Wallace were shown the door, all of whom the GOP gladly embraced. 

        And it wasn't just Nixon. I remember in 1980, St. Ronnie kicked off his general election campaign in Meridian, Mississippi. Anyone else remember what Meridian, Mississippi is famous for?

        And who can forget Willie Horton?  And yet they wonder why the best they can do is to get 10 percent of the African-American vote……


  3. marklane1351 says:

    The stopped being the party of Lincoln long ago. Lincoln believed in civil rights for all. He would have supported the ACA. He would not have tolerated the tea party wing of the party, nor would he have taken a lawsuit to the Supreme Court that would take health insurance away from 6.5 million people. He would not have kidnapped people off the street, taken to black sites to be held without due process. He also would not have had people tortured. Yes, waterboarding is torture.'This country established that long ago when we prosecuted Japanese officers for war crimes and torture because they waterboarded Americans.
















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