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October 25, 2007 03:19 PM UTC

Thursday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“If we took away women’s right to vote, we’d never have to worry about another Democrat president. It’s kind of a pipe dream, it’s a personal fantasy of mine, but I don’t think it’s going to happen.”

–Ann Coulter

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      1. So, let me get this straight.  The commentator’s point is that if you need to use someone else’s words to make a point, you’re “stupid”.

        And you are trying to reinforce that point by re-posting a video of him saying it’s “stupid” to mindlessly repeat someone else’s dogma?

        Sometimes you do such great work for us, Go Blue.

            1. That’s right. I am Dick Cheney, but do not disturb me during important Cabinent meetings since that’s when I like to take naps Who cares that California is burning, not me!

        1. The point was that the modern conservative movement, limbaugh watchers in particular, have authoritarian personalities.  They need a “father figure” to obey and an enemy to justify their fear.  This is the traditional road to fascism.

          What he said was stupid was thinking both GWB and GHWB were right when they had diametricly opposed foriegn policy views or not believing that climate crisis is real despite overwhelming scientific evidence.

          The point is, worshiping of authority leads people to repeat ideas without critically thinking about what they are actually saying.

          I am not saying it doesn’t happen on the left, but I would argue that it is less common. Philosophically when the american left goes overboard they act like a nagging wife not a jackbooted dictator.

          1. That is true so far for the American Left, but the American Right hasn’t gotten anywhere close to the Nazis or the Taliban.  People may think that we’re in a “facist” state now, but those people (in my opinion) have no real idea of what a facist state is.  I would guess that it’s the fear that they latch on to to justify their hate from what I’ve read so far.

            The best examples of left or right going over-board are found in other countries.

            But the real question is, what’s the difference between a jack-booted dictator and a nagging wife?  At the end of the day, aren’t they both trying to get you to do something you don’t want to?

            1. No. a naggin wife has a contractual relationship with you. you can break it or you can negotiate a better deal. a jack-booted dictator will use the police power of the state to break you, jail you or kill you…

              1. Because either your [side] is saying that there has never been an example of a left-wing dictatorship, or America as is now is currently a police state.

                Either assertion seems pretty ridiculous.

                1. No, what I am saying is that a jack booted dictator is not the same thing as a nagging wife….

                  hope your love life is not as srewed up as your analogies

            2. …we had the likes of Henry Ford and Prescott Bush and others that admired the Nazis to the point they tried to overthrow our government.

              Is that close enough?

              As to today, I would offer that our current version of “fascism” is kindler and gentler.  Not exactly jackboot Kristal Nacht, but the squeeze is on.

              Don’t forget, the fascism of Spain, Itally, and Germany were all different flavors. 

        1. ….because of name recognition and because he did well last year in H.D. 58 running against a popular Dem for C.D. 3. 
            But this race will definitely be competitive next year.

  1. that this facist, neo-NAZI hate-monger is invited to “real news shows” and treated like some sort of authentic political commentator, but if Rosie O’Donnell were to say, “If we took away straight white men’s right to vote, we’d never have to worry about another Republican President.  It’s kind of a pipe dream, it’s a personal fantasy of mine, but I don’t think it’s going to happen”, she’d be pilloried?

      1. her ghost writers pen a new diatribe for her she goose-steps to the “Today Show”, “Good Morning America”, and “The CBS Morning Show”.  She has been on “Hardball” several times (remember when Elizabeth Edwards called her out?—That was on Hardball).  Donnie Deutsch just had her on his show when she told him, in true NAZI fashion, that Jews needed to be perfected.

    1. 1often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

      2: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control

      Yes, Coulter is a fascist.

  2. This doesn’t take place in Colorado, but the way the media have lazily reported hearsay, it may as well.

    From that bastion of liberalism, The Christian Science Monitor (and reprinted in several other papers)…

    “The media got most of the basics wrong. In fact, I have never before witnessed such a disgrace in professional journalism. Myths replaced facts, and journalists abdicated their solemn duty to investigate every claim because they were seduced by a powerfully appealing but false narrative of racial injustice.

    “I should know. I live in Jena. My wife has taught at Jena High School for many years. And most important, I am probably the only reporter who has covered these events from the very beginning.”

    Can you imagine the outrage if whites from all over the country descended on a small town to protest the prosecution of a Caucasian kid who severely beat a black kid?

      1. What point is this post trying to make?

        The best I can come up with, is that it’s using an article to minimize the lack of action regarding the incidents leading up to the acts of the black students and to minimize the over-prosecution of those acts.

        Mychal Bell deserved the 10 months or so he got while awaiting his trial and appeal – that’s about appropriate under juvenile prosecution guidelines.  Beyond that, the actions of the prosecution, judges, and school officials was distinctly less than ideal.

  3. For the Boulder-based bloggers here, if any of you have a moment or a thought to post on my diary on the Boulder ballot initiatives I would be very grateful.
    Liberals, moderates, conservatives, people who heard something from their Aunt Betty… I welcome all your comments. Thanks.

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