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September 17, 2007 03:36 PM UTC

Monday Open Thread

  • by: Colorado Pols

“A Christian is a man who feels repentance on a Sunday for what he did on Saturday and is going to do on Monday.”

–Thomas Russell Ybarra


46 thoughts on “Monday Open Thread

  1. In the thread here Gecko said

    I’ll vote for her[Hillary] the day you vote for a conservative.

    As I voted for Allard the first time (before I realized he was an idiot) and vote a straight Republican/Libertarian ticket in the Boulder County races (to encourage them), that means Gecko will be voting for Hillary.

    1. I did not say that you would need to vote conservative 10 years ago. I meant that when you vote conservative this election, I’ll vote for the Beast.
      I voted once for a Democrat myself so old news doesn’t count………..wink wink

      1. I will vote for every Republican on the ballot for Boulder COunty offices in ’08 – every single one.

        And if they have a candidate running against Stan Garnett I’ll probably even donate to their campaign.

        So there you go…

    1. Greg Kolomitz and Sheila McDonald are two of the top pros in Colorado politics.  I have not heard an explanation as to why they are no longer working for Polis?

  2. Two important men who have interacted with Bush for years dis him:

    Vincente Fox, in a new book calls him “the cockiest guy I have ever met in my life.”  No shit Sherlock.

    Greenspan, in his new book says about Bush and the Republican congress: “My biggest frustration remained the president’s unwillingness to wield his veto against out-of-control spending,” Greenspan writes. “Not exercising the veto power became a hallmark of the Bush presidency. . . . To my mind, Bush’s collaborate-don’t-confront approach was a major mistake.”

    So why is it 1/3 of Americans still back this child-president?

    Greenspan says this about Clinton.  Reagan worshippers please note. “However, he calls Clinton a “risk taker” who had shown a “preference for dealing in facts,” and presents Clinton and himself almost as soul mates. “Here was a fellow information hound. . . . We both read books and were curious and thoughtful about the world. . . . I never ceased to be surprised by his fascination with economic detail: the effect of Canadian lumber on housing prices and inflation. . . . He had an eye for the big picture too.”

    During Clinton’s first weeks as president, Greenspan went to the Oval Office and explained the danger of not confronting the federal deficit. Unless the deficits were cut, there could be “a financial crisis,” Greenspan told the president. “The hard truth was that Reagan had borrowed from Clinton, and Clinton was having to pay it back. I was impressed that he did not seem to be trying to fudge reality to the extent politicians ordinarily do. He was forcing himself to live in the real world.”

    Dealing with a budget surplus in his second term, Clinton proposed devoting the extra money to “save Social Security first.” Greenspan writes, “I played no role in finding the answer, but I had to admire the one Clinton and his policymakers came up with.”

    Greenspan interviewed Clinton for the book and clearly admires him.”

    Full story at: http://www.washingto

  3. How do you spell out of control no bid security contractor and perpetrators of the first assault on Fallujah?  B-l-a-c-k-w-a-t-e-r

    September 17, 2007 Blackwater License Being Pulled in Iraq By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Filed at 9:55 a.m. ET BAGHDAD (AP) — The Iraqi government said Monday that it was revoking the license of an American security firm accused of involvement in the deaths of eight civilians in a firefight that followed a car bomb explosion near a State Department motorcade. The Interior Ministry said it would prosecute any foreign contractors found to have used excessive force in the Sunday shooting. It was latest accusation against the U.S.-contracted firms that operate with little or no supervision and are widely disliked by Iraqis who resent their speeding motorcades and forceful behavior.

    More here:


    1. How dare they do something like this ?  You can’t kick our cowboys out of Dodge.  They are only supposed TO LOOK LIKE they are calling the shots.  Do we have to overthrow them again ?

        1. Private Powell
          Submitted by Rick Perlstein on September 15, 2007 – 1:25pm.
          Here’s a bizarre new interview with Colin Powell.… He simultaneously warns against a “terror-industrial complex”-“an industry that only exists as long as you keep the terrorist threat pumped up”-and goes on to defend blithely defend the outsourcing of security and combat positions to Blackwater and other private contractors.

          War profiteering goooood; just not too much.

          He’s asked, “Is it fair to pay these contractors more than soldiers get when they take comparable risk?” Yes, indeedy, it is: “You pay what is necessary to get somebody to do the job as a civilian…. It’s not a matter of fairness. It’s, if you need these people you have to pay them a wage that will get them there. You’re competing in an open labor market.”

          Of course that’s nonsense, as the interviewer usefully points up in a followup: “Why can’t we use, say, the Army to protect people like Bremer and the ambassador instead of companies like Blackwater?” His answer-soldiers have better things to do than be bodyguards-is silly. He’s uncomfortable, and turns on his heels to leave. He’s no Dwight D. Eisenhower. He strikes me, in fact, as rather a creep, and one eager to preserve his options in the marketplace to boot.

          The interview, by the way, was by a college journalist. Can’t expect our dithering professionals to be quite so sharp and penetrating.


      1. sorry.  It’s fiscal year end, and my industry is at it’s busiest, groveling and angling for one more contract. 

        I predict that Blackwater gets bought out by DynCorp today, and all that leaves Iraq is the Blackwater name.  Novation agreement.

        But this could be portentous. 

        I asked Secretary Rice last Summer to consider creating a commission on Iraqi Civilian Losses, a sort-of Truth & Justice Commission that allows Iraqis to have someone hear their grievances. 
        Not for reparations.
        Not for apologies.
        But just to show some respect for the suffering we’ve brought to these people. 

        She told me, through Ambassador David Satterfield, her point man on Iraq, to jump in a lake.  She completely prohibited any such initiative.
        The fear was that it would highlight two hidden aspects of the war:
        …..the destruction done by aerial bombardment; and
        …..the wanton destruction of sadistic Mercenaries blasting through traffic (and worse, much worse.)

        I’m hoping that the Secretary claims the idea as her own, and we have a Commission by this time next month. 

        1. but these contracts are all now bid competitively.

          That’s how I got my 15 minutes of fame,
          throwing a monkey wrench into the process on a $475 Million contract for mercenaries. 

          The judge threw the case out because I couldn’t line up backers willing to put in writing that they might consider providing operating capital. 
          Without $8 Million in tentative commitments,
          the Court ruled I wasn’t a real playah, with a realistic chance of performing any contracts for non-Merc services in Iraq. 
          Without playah standing, case dismissed. 

          Oh, and all those folks saying they are opposed to the war,
          and would be willing to help end the war, if only they had the chance ?

          Well, I contacted every Dem activist or candidate that I could think of
          who said they opposed the war, and who was worth that kind of cash. 
          None of them were so committed that they would tell a judge in writing that they might think about supporting my effort. 

          …..The only way this war stops before January 2009 is through the courts, the one branch that still functions. 

          Danny, I’m passing the baton …

  4. “Meanwhile, as Biden’s blunder proves, there are risks to trying to make phony cultural connections with working-class white men, most notably perpetuating the perception of Democrats as a party that is uncomfortable in its skin. With few if any votes to be gained — and plenty of votes to be lost for being inauthentic — Democrats finally seem to realize that cultural contortionism in the pursuit of Bubba produces little more than smiles on the faces of Republican consultants like Ayres.”

    More in Salon

  5. While the Schnake/Sims group sit in their Front Range offices, telling lies about the Wyoming Governor, misrepresenting facts (and refusing to offer corrections when confronted with hard data), and compare people like local elected officials with Osama Bin Laden, real Western Slope residents speak out on Roan Plateau.

  6.   Associated Press is reporting that the men’s room stall where Larry Craig was busted has become a big tourist attraction at the Minneapolis airport, with men going in to have their pictures taken!
      Perhaps the Human Rights Campaign and/or the Gill Foundation will commission a plaque to be placed at the site to memorialize the incident.
      With any luck, by the time the GOP convention opens next summer, the souvenir shop adjacent to the rest room will be up and running where visitors can buy tee shirts, coffee mugs, dildoes, and stuff red, white & blue elephants.
    P.S.  Craig’s hearing on his motion to withdraw his guilty plea is Sept. 26th.

    1. He’ll be a big hit with people like John Andrews, Shawn Mitchell, and other Cons were subscribe to his style of thinking where there is only good and evil in this world, and they are good and everyone else is evil.

  7. I spied a short article on page 39 of Friday’s Rocky Mountain News titled, “Thompson doesn’t have view on Schiavo case.”

    The third paragraph states, “I can’t pass judgment on it. I know that good peole were doing what they thought was best,” Thompson said. “That’s going back in history. I don’t remember the details of it.”

    Uhh, yeah, March 2005 was waaay back in history. Yep.

    In the last paragraph Thompson is quoted as saying, “Local matters, generally speaking, should be left to the locals.”

    By saying local matters should be left to the locals I don’t suppose he defines “locals” as individuals and their families, does he? Nah. Didn’t think so.

      1. some regular ol’ people might not recall it (I can’t imagine who that would be), but anyone with an opinion on that situation will remember enough details to be able to state their opinion.

        And, anyone who ever entertained the thought of running for president surely paid attention to the sad circus that became the Schiavo case.

    1. write up your own diary about the gang of four articles.

      Instead of just sitting around and complaining it is possible for conservatives to actually be pro-active and do something. This goes for public policy as well as blogging.

    2. Moonie, welcome back but this is hardly news.  We all know about what the Demcoratic millionaires (Gill, Bridges, Styker and Polis) did to rescue this state from the mess in which the Republican millionaires (Bensen, Coors, Both Ways, et al.) and the Republican ideological wing nuts (Andrews, Bruce and Caldera) put us.

  8. Even the Rs who wanted to sit on their hands couldn’t because his message was so right on (except of course for the likes of Roy Palmer).

    It was growth and economic development and very difficult to refute.  My favorite part was how not only is the US a debtor nation to China, but it is also a debtor nation to Mexico.  Mexico is our tenth largest lender.

    So Tom T how about them apples?

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