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August 28, 2007 03:13 AM UTC

Say Goodbye to Larry Craig

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  • by: DavidThi808

(We at Colorado Pols have never thought about whether we had a “wide stance” while going to the bathroom, but perhaps we should… – promoted by Colorado Pols)

Here we have another Republican demonstrating their fealty to family values. Cheating on his wife, devastating his family (his poor kids), and being a lying scumbag – these guys are awful.

Right up there with Ted Haggard, in his case voting the exact opposite fo the life he was living. At the rate this is going I expect the next articles to be:

  • Doug Lamborn found to be an underground agent for the Taliban.
  • Marilyn Musgrave is secretly married to her lesbian partner of 20 years.
  • Tom Tancredo is found to be running the largest coyote network in the country.
  • Wayne Allard is discovered to have had an original thought.

Nah – the last one is too far-fetched.

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63 thoughts on “Say Goodbye to Larry Craig

    1. Whenever I hear that phrase I get so depressed.  To think that a man still gets a woodie thinking that his woodie is bigger than the other guy’s woodie is like watching mental kindergartners regardless of their chronological ages.

      Maybe at 6’3″ I’ve never had to worry if I was standing tall enough.  I won’t comment on my woodie factor!

    1. Anyone with the cojones to stand up a la A Few Good Men is too much for Bush to handle.  Same goes for Patrick Fitzgerald, Carol Lam, or other US Attorney who’s crossed swords with this Administration, no matter how Republican their credentials.

  1. Craig has been one of those “rumored to be…” Republicans for a while now; this incident just brings out into the open what was “ok” while it was merely rumor.  Being Idaho, though, Craig is done for; the only question is, how long does he stick it out?  If he’s lucky, he’s already had “The Conversation” with his wife, and he doesn’t have to spend his time coming clean to his family; in that case, he can stick it out until his term is up if he so chooses – maybe he can even become a rational voice.  Nah – more likely that Lamborn is a closet agent for the Taliban.

    1. was something along the lines of his official statement today — “the police misconstrued my actions” — then I think he has a long way to go.  But being a “closet” homosexual is a whole different thing from soliciting sexual contact in a public restroom — isn’t it??!! 

    2. which will only make it more of a story.  I can’t say I know to much about Idaho politics, but I imagine he’ll be primaried pretty soon.  As red as that state is I can’t imagine they’d let him make it to the general election.

        1. Americans are pretty forgiving if you own up to your mistaks, but he isn’t doing that and the more he denies it the worse it will be for him.  I hope he sticks it out until the general, but I doubt it.

          1. (until you realized it’s seriousness and start weeping.) He plead guilty and says – what was it? He was pressured into it? Or he just wanted it to go away? The man is a US Senator (and made a big deal about that upon his arrest, according to the report). If there’s anyone in America who can fob off a trumped up charge with the police (if not the press) with no trouble, it’s a US Senator. So his guilty plea means they had him cold.

            He will resign, it’s just a matter of time. The GOP doesn’t want any more trouble like this. Over at redstate.com there’s a thread about this and someone made the comment that the “October Surprise” of Mark Foley cost them 10-20 seats in the House. (While he was a factor, I doubt he was that decisive, but let them wander in that wilderness for a while longer.) They’ll force him out if he isn’t man enough to do it on his own for that reason alone.

      1. On the news this morning, a woman was defending Craig saying “there is no evidence, just the other man’s word…” Ok, lady that other man happened to be an undercover police office, and his word is evidence!

        What’s with the apologists in the Republican Party? It seems no matter what happens, there is someone lunatic there to defend them and ultimately blame Clinton for all their problems.

        1. Did his defender conveniently forget the guilty plea? as well? Cripes, these are the same people who still harp on Whitewater, the great investigation that found nothing incriminating on the Clintons. (And no, right wingers, I’m not going to get into that with you. There was nothing, you know it, so let it go.)

        2. Being part of the group and thinking like the group is more important than being logical or morally correct. 

          I love to watch bumper stickers, not only for their content, but the cars that they are affixed to.  I’ve observed that there is a high incidence of Broncos and/or Avalanche stickers along with Support our Troops or Bush 04.  And in turn, they are often on a large SUV. 

          I don’t think I’ve ever seen a Broncos with a SOT or Bush sticker on a Subaru Outback!

          1. I can’t recall it exactly, but I saw some surprising right wing sticker on a Prius a few weeks ago. Not SOT (you will see those on smaller, sensible cars if you go to the outer burbs), maybe it was some pro GOP stuff, but it made me wonder why the driver was behind the wheel of the official vehicle of the Hollywood Liberal Elite.

          2. Avoid turning your car into a progressive billboard–it can turn the police against you before the even ask you “Sir, do you know why I pulled you over”

            One should only ever place three stickers on your car in colorado 1. Bronco sticker 2. native sticker 3. Eagle globe and anchor

            The Eagle globe and anchor is the only sticker (even those PBA stickers) that I have ever seen work to get you out of a ticket.

            1. after years of haranguing them about the “Ring” test,
              the one that forces those who fail the test to join the country’s oldest branch of service;
              and about the role of the “Iwo Jima” Memorial in DC culture;
              and about how the Corps is an imitation of real Infantry, with the littoral thrown in for excuses;

              after all that, how’m I gonna desecrate my ’85 Suburban with the globe and anchor ?

      2. then in the general election, assuming those six Dems field a presentable DINO, they can return home to support their candidate. Hopefully many RINOs will do the same and Values Voters will skip over the Senate race in disgust if Craig’s name is on the ballot. 

  2. I think repressed homosexual feelings have a lot to do with homophobia.  Ted Haggard is the obvious example.  We all know that story.  Many of you probably know the story of Tyler Whitney, Webmaster for Tancredo’s presidential campaign.  As a member of a group now classified as a hate group, he was extremely outspoken against gays (even holding a sign saying “Go back in the closet” at an anti-gay rally) before being outed himself.  http://pridesource.c

    Larry Craig is just another one that got caught.  All of these people were extremely homophobic… all outed in a very public manner… and all more than deserved it.

    How long until Dobson and Lamborn get outed?

    1. Being anti-gay, I think, doesn’t necessarily mean being a repressed gay.  But it does mean denying a that portion of our sexual spectrum that is potentially so. 

      I’ve never had a homosexual encounter, but I certainly can recognize some other men as being very attractive and sexual.  For me, however, such acknowledged attraction is only interesting to myself and it falls very far short of my response to an attractive woman.

      And if another man feels likewise, but doesn’t have the draw to females, so what?

      1.   He looked like he spent hours each day in front of the mirror primping and fixing himself up not to mention spending a fortune on hair products.

          1. None of your colleagues on the right (Dobby, Haners, Blah, Capt. America, Rizzo, etc.) have shown their faces.  They’re probably awaiting instructions from Faux News how best to spin this latest sex scandal for right wingers.

            1. But to be honest with ya, I don’t have a clue who this Larry Craig feller is.
              It is getting a little ridiculous though, just how many hypocrites there are out there that are getting uncovered these days.
              I bet if the truth were known, there would be literally thousands more found out.
              Don’t make sense to me.
              If you are straight, fine.
              If you are gay, fine.
              But to be a closet gay, and then bash people who are openly gay, or threaten others that they will die a thousand firey deaths if they turn gay, is simply wrong.
              IMHO

              1. sounds like the republican party of the 50’s/60’s. Sadly, it is all but dead and replace by a group of corrupt individuals who are looking out for other neo-cons.

              2. Well spoken, Gecko.

                I could be OK with Republicans if they could just leave me alone as a gay man.  But as you say, when they’re all closeted and bashing other gays it’s just infuriating.

              3. Right on Gecko.

                If we could all just agree to leave each other alone on stuff that doesn’t matter, we might actually be able to listen to each other on stuff that does.

            2. So the fact that I’ve been busy at work and am only now getting a chance to look at what’s been going on means that I’m waiting for instructions from “Faux News”?

              I thought that only conservatives were supposed to be judgemental, but thanks for clearing that up.

              1.   And I probably shouldn’t have lumped you in with the rest of that group. You’re more of a Gecko-type conservative than that other bunch.
                 

                1. Just saying that I get my marching orders for Fox (if I watch T.V., the last thing I watch is the news channels-unless you count the daily show and colbert report as news)-I get my views from no body else.

                  It’s just been hectic at work, and when things get hectic, I just perfer to read exchanges as opposed to participating in them.

  3.   So after being busted for trying to get some “Tea Room” trade, Republican Senator Larry Craig insists that he engaged in no “inappropriate” behavior and that the cops “misconstrued” what he was up to.
      Pray tell, what exactly was he up to?  Maybe he was doing research as to the percentage of men at a given hour in the rest room of a major midwestern city’s airport who were circumsized?  Call it the Pole Poll.
      Or maybe he was there to inspect the recently collapsed bridge with an eye towards federal funding to rebuild.  If so, he simply got confused as to which erection he was there to work on.
      At least David Vitter had the decency (and I use that term loosely) to conduct his sex-scapes behind the closed doors of a brothel.
      It’s too bad Larry Craig didn’t have Mike Jones’ number on speed dial when he really needed a friend.

    1. From the police report per rollcall.com:

      “I could see Craig look through the crack in the door from his position. Craig would look down at his hands, ‘fidget’ with his fingers, and then look through the crack into my stall again….

      “At 1216 hours, Craig tapped his right foot. I recognized this as a signal used by persons wishing to engage in lewd conduct. Craig tapped his toes several times and moves his foot closer to my foot…. The presence of others did not seem to deter Craig as he moved his right foot so that it touched the side of my left foot which was within my stall area,” the report states.

      As Dan Savage asks, there’s more than one way to construe playing footsie with a complete stranger at an airport bathroom?

      And as a commenter at Daily Kos said, the big tent sure has a big closet.

      h/t, as always, to The Stranger

  4. He should resign.  So should Vitter.  It doesn’t matter if he was soliciting a man or a woman.  He was illegally soliciting sex and cheating on his wife and he plead guilty to the crime.

    1. Soliciting Prostitution is illegal! I don’t care if he found God or was forgiven by his wife, the man broke the law and no man is above that.

      Go to Jail, do no collect $200.

        1. From the Times-Picayune…

          Solicitation for prostitution is a misdemeanor although it’s probably too late to prosecute a 2001 offense. The statute of limitations in Washington, D.C., is three years and two years in Louisiana.

          I’m not 100% familiar with the case, but this only now came to light, right? There wasn’t any investigation back in 2001, was there?

    1. but I’ll point out that it was the pudgy guy who was doing the cruising – no word right now on the cop’s looks, but I would bet that a younger, more handsome detective would catch more bathroom perverts* than an older one.

      Still, judging from what I’ve seen on the internet there is no  type of person that someone else can’t find attractive on some level. As they said on Seinfeld once, only 5% of the population is really attractive. The rest of us (yes, I belong to the vast majority here) all find a way, and that includes old pudgy closet cases.

      * For lack of a better word

  5. I’m afraid I don’t have time to paste the links, but Senator Craig has held a news conference to deny that he’s gay!

    Thanks for clearing that up. I’d hate for my anonymous men’s room footsie sessions to be construed as such…

    1. like most of these hypcrites, is that many people do not care if he is gay.  Yet, he is defending his heterosexuality.

      From http://www.editorand

      “In its story today about Craig’s arrest, the Statesman revealed that it had uncovered evidence of other Craig liaisons or sexual advances, including allegations that he had sex with a man in a Union Station bathroom in Washington, D.C., but had not previously reported it. “Until Monday, the Statesman had declined to run a story about Craig’s sex life, because the paper didn’t have enough corroborating evidence and because of the senator’s steadfast denial.”

      But the paper also revealed, “Over five months, the Statesman examined rumors about Craig dating to his college days and his 1982 pre-emptive denial that he had sex with underage congressional pages. The most serious finding by the Statesman was the report by a professional man with close ties to Republican officials. The 40-year-old man reported having oral sex with Craig at Washington’s Union Station, probably in 2004. The Statesman also spoke with a man who said Craig made a sexual advance toward him at the University of Idaho in 1967 and a man who said Craig “cruised” him for sex in 1994 at the REI store in Boise. The Statesman also explored dozens of allegations that proved untrue, unclear, or unverifiable.”

      Where there’s smoke, there’s gay-fire.  Funny how those rumors and accusations don’t stick to most folks.

      1. he is from Idaho, one state whose redness is beyond dispute. They might care more than most of us in post Will and Grace America do.

        But it’s sad, really. I think this is really about his closeted nature which is the result of such a homophobic culture in which men like Haggard and Craig were reared. If you are gay, you have to repress it as something sick and wrong and live a double life where anonymous bathroom sex or solicitation are your only outlets, even while you have a wife and children at home. And of course you have to preach hard against homosexuality or work hard to deny them equal rights just in case anyone thinks you’re a fag. (Which is why you have to wonder about the loudest homophobes – you don’t think Fred Phelps has anything to hide, do you?)

        As I’ve said before, things are changing and incidents like this are going to help that along. I don’t think it will happen as quickly as Civil Rights (especially since it’s possible for the ignorant to perceive homosexuality as a choice, something that never could be believed about race) but I think I’ll see full legal gay equality within my lifetime, and that homophobia will be regarded by future generations as being from beyond the pale as racism is by my generation.

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