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December 29, 2006 08:00 AM UTC

Blizzard Number Two Open Thread

  • by: Colorado Pols

How’s the snow (and snow removal) in your hood?


16 thoughts on “Blizzard Number Two Open Thread

  1. Only the streets with warm pipes under them are clear in Longmont. Aside from that, you’d better have 16″ of ground clearance and 4WD. Either that or nerves of steel to listen to the frozen slush savaging your car’s bottom like a Congressman working a hot young page.

    Seeing a lot of heavy equipment, but mysteriously, very little snow being MOVED. Neighbors are hand-shovelling their streets to get out.


    These are the people who are going to save us from a real DISASTER?

    Yeah. Right.

    1. …”savaging your car’s bottom like a Congressman working a hot young page.”

      That joke alone has made my hellish week in CA with the “fam” magically better…

      On a more serious note, my street in Boulder never saw a plow before I left on Sunday and according to my girlfriend there is still an 5in ice slick paving our street.  I don’t assume that will change this week…

    1. the bit on the Drew Cary show where during a blizzard with the utilities out (including heat) and he’s standing at the back door, spraying a couple of aerosol cans, yelling, “Come on global warming!”

      You have to wonder what your local politicians are thinking of every time they ask for money for some special project, and they can’t even keep the main roadways open.  Someone needs to take them to task when they can’t even perform basic municipal maintenance.

    2. One consequence of the melting of the Artic ice cap will be to lower the salinity rate in the Atlantic ocean which will reduce its carrying capacity and alter the Gulf Stream which brings warm water north from Africa. Result: much colder Northern Europe.  I do not know what impact the melting ice wil have on pacific waters…but it may well be bigger snow storms…..

      1. those who study the phenomenon now call it “climate change.” The earth’s overall temperature is indeed rising but that doesn’t mean it’s getting warmer everywhere.

      2. Has been warming and cooling over and over again for millions of years.
        Of course that is why dinosaur bones are found along with tropical leaves, in areas that are now arid, or frozen.
        Still it seems weird. The earth warms up, so temps drop.

        1. ….the earth is too young for there to have been dinosaurs roaming around when those atheist, pinko, Commie, gay-loving, tree-hugging scientists claim the dinosaurs were around.  Everybody knows this!

        2. …that’s more because of Continental Drift.  But don’t you wingnuts all believe the earth was formed 6,000 years ago?  I thought fossils were put here by the devil to test our faith in God’s word.

          Actually, snow is one of the products of global warming.  As the oceans warm, evaporation rates increase.  Higher evaporation rates during the winter mean more snow. The warmer it is, the more it snows, provided the winter temperatures are still below freezing.  Warm air holds more moisture than cold air.  When it’s too cold, the air is dry and there’s little precipitation.  Look a weather map that shows today’s snowstorm.  The precipitation follows the warm front.  When the cold front comes through, the storm is over.  The air is too dry to hold moisture.  (Actually, that’s sort of an oversimplification of today’s storm.  Today’s storm is associated with a stationary front–two air masses moving in opposite directions. Warm, moist air from the Gulf has collided with cold, dry air from the northwest.  The round bumps on the map of the front show the direction of warm air movement and the pointy ones show the cold air movement.)

          On a global scale, it’s not until after years of warmth-caused snow, until the snow and ice are deep enough winter after winter to stay around into the summer, until the polar ice caps extend to northern and southern mid-latitudes, that the earth will cool a little because snow and ice reflect more solar radiation than soil and trees.  As the earth cools, there will eventually be less snow in the winter to replace what melts in the summer, and the ice caps will eventually retreat.  Yes, it’s cyclical.  But we’re making it worse.  It only takes a few degrees in each direction.

          We can’t do much about natural climate cycles.  But we can do something about greenhouse gases.  If there’s a component of global warming that we can control, why shouldn’t we control it?

  2. I can remember my father putting the chains on the 49 Studebaker so that we could get to Sunday school.  When my ex and I moved to Colorado in 1972, 4WD was rare, mostly farmers, hunters, and some Jeep-aholics.

    VW’s and Corvairs often got through when the rear drive cars couldn’t.  FWD and the patt time 4WD Subaru’s were just starting to appear.

    So the rest of us made do with chains.  The buzz of chained vehicles going up and down the street after a snow storm was common. 

    I’ve not seen a chained private vehicle for several years. I would put a chained 2WD roughly on par with an unchained 4WD.  I say roughly because of factors like steering can’t equate.

    Whatever happened to chains?

    1. is what I remember hearing.  I remember going up skiing with the family and having to chain up at least four or five time a season to get over Loveland or Vail pass.

    2. were the main source of traction rather then chains.  They were effective in ice and snow. and one hell of a thrill ride on rain covered pavement.  The chain law (we still call it that rather then whatever phrase CDOT wants to change it to) was chains and/or studded snow tires.

      1. They weren’t invented or available until ??? about 1970?  It was always chains before that.  It was the studded tires that wore down roads, not chains.  Those carbide tips chewed up pavement, while plain old steel chains were eaten up by the pavement!

  3. On my street in unincorporated Douglas county we got plowed last Thursday about noon, and it looks like they did two passes last night.  I would expect we will see another one tonight or early tomorrow.  It’s just not a problem.

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