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July 29, 2024 12:47 AM UTC

Monday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“Do we participate in a politics of cynicism or a politics of hope?”

–Barack Obama

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14 thoughts on “Monday Open Thread

    1. Umm… Like, who are you talking about?

      Anti-democracy is more like it. I’m thinking Venezuela is more like the Republican Party, and the Heritage Foundation, right?

      “The Republican Party is a failed state, and Donald Trump is its warlord.”

      1. I was talking about the land known as the workers' paradise ….. Venezuela.

        Don't know if either the Republican Party or the Heritage Foundation ever expropriated private private property like the Chavez-Maduro regime did but if so, you may be right.

        Park Hill, you don’t find it to be the least bit ironic that masses of people are voting with tier feet by traveling through the Darrien Gap to leave a nation where all are equal to seek work in a country like the US of A with its exploitative class structure and no universal health care?

        How is that possible?

        1. Death threats, rape, murder, a cratered economy and useless currency in Venezuela. How can Maduro be so incompetent, sitting on a pile of oil like that ?

          1. It is amazing. Even if you assume that there will be a certain amount of kleptocratic tendencies in any totalitarian government – even a totalitarian regime where all are officially equal – there's that old saying, "Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered."

            Apparently, they don't know that while they're expected to pocket some of the oil revenue, it might be nice if some – or even most – of that money went to things like police, schools, hospitals, etc.

            1. I guess it's not what you have but what you do with it. Maduro could look at all of the good things Norway does with their oil revenue as an example, but he won't, because he's an idiot.

    2. Typically if the United States has "serious concerns" about an election process, I take that with grain of salt. I don't know much about Venezuala. Though I do know that recognizing an unelected "interim president" as we did with Juan Guaidó raises some "serious concerns" for me.

      1. It's nice to see someone take up the cause of Nicholas Maduro.

        And here I thought you were a one-trick pony, Joe, shilling only for Hamas.

  1. Even Bernie Sanders has reservations …..

    https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4795432-kamala-harris-democratic-anxiety/

    Unlike Bernie, my concern is less her ability to connect with the Bernie Bros and more a concern for a potential Willie Horton lurking umder the resumé of the head of the second largest justice department in the country.

    Except Willie Horton won't be called Willlie Horton. It will be José Sanchez and José will be an undocumented immigrant. In that way the Trump campaign has a three-fer:  an appeal to racists, an appeal to xenophobes, and an appeal to folks who are not necessarily racist or xenophobic but just fear and dislike violent criminals being turned loose.

    I still think she is an improvement over Biden. She keeps some traditionally blue states blue (i.e., Minnesota, NH, Virginia) and she has a decent chance at carrying some of the swing states needed to win (e.g., PA or AZ, especially if she has Shapiro or Kelly as a running mate).

  2. Venezuela is much more a classic communist regime. Its economy is controlled by the state. Yes, they have "elections", but so do Russia and most other authoritarian regimes. Calling something "democratic" does not make it so.

    Don't equate Venezuela with Democratic Socialists in this country. Very different animals.

    And if you get your wish  ( tax cuts for gazillionaires) and Trump is elected, you can live in a condo in Mexico with your partner  and sneer at  and feel superior to all the Venezuelan, Honduran, Guatamalan and Salvadoran refugees. They don't give two shits about what the government calls itself. They're refugees.

     

     

    1. But isn't "classical communism" just another term for socialism taken to its logical conclusion?

      At any rate, we got rid of Jamaal Bowman last month. With any luck, that crackpot Cori Bush loses next week.

      Looks like democratic socialism is losing some of its appeal. Big surprise.

      1. I would certainly question your opening query about,.  "classical communism" is.."socialism taken to its logical conclusion."

        That answer is no. Do you have some sort of basis for such a supposition? I seem to recall this subject from some "comparative governments" class. The distinction between "socialism" and "communism" has been realized for a very long time.

         

      1. The precise mix of motives is challenging to estimate.

        Venezuelan displacement is one of the largest forced displacement crises in the world. The country, once a refugee hub in the past, now marks 7.7 million people being displaced globally due to widespread violence, economic pressure, food insecurity and more. Dreaming of security and a better life, 6.5 million, among 7.7 million, have fled to Latin America and the Caribbean.

        Among those who come to the United States (estimated 500-700,000), there is a mix of unauthorized immigrants and those seeking asylum.

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