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October 10, 2006 03:28 PM UTC

Tuesday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

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  1.   The Post is reporting the flip flop in Beauprez’ stand on giving in-state tuition rates to illegal immigrants between ’02 and this year. 
      Other than maybe abortion, can anyone identify a single issue where he has maintained a consistent position over the past five years? 

    1. He spends money that we do not have, and still pushes tax cuts. He is a good neo-con.

      I wish that the republicans would get back to running good republicans rather than allowing these neo-con nut jobs to take over. What I find funny is that CA’s Gov. Schwarzenegger may be one of the last few republicans in office (knows how to cut deficits and where to spend money).

      1.   Didn’t he sell the family farm to a developer?  If so, when he had the chance to preserve agricultural land in agriculture, he didn’t……

  2. How can we take CO pols serious if you can’t even get the candidates names right.  Again as several people pointed out yesterday the Democratic candidate for AG’s first name is Fern NOT Fran.

    Don’t take this personally please just fix it.  It’s disrespectful to the campaigns and it makes this site look high school not to have something so basic correct.

    1. This, in combination with your posts yesterday, leads me to believe that you hate typos more than any person alive.

      Honestly, what do you care if ColoPols looks less professional?  And I’m not so sure that Fern would take mortal offense either.

      I’m not trying to offend you, but seriously now, nobody even noticed that thing except for you, and I’m not positive that anybody else really cares.  They’ll fix it when they fix it, if they feel like it. 

      1. First, I disagree.  I think the O’brien campaign would mind if they knew their candidate’s name was wrong.  This shows a lack of respect for the candidate and for the process. 

        This mistake tells me that whoever is behind writing these “big lines” isn’t putting a lot of thought into what they are doing.  If they aren’t putting a lot of thought into what they are doing then how can we take any of their ratings serious? 

        Right now at least five people have pointed this mistake out, it’s been over 24 hours and they still won’t fix it.  Again it is another sign that CO pols is asleep at the wheel.

  3. Nearly 50,000 Coloradans registered to vote in the six months ending Sept. 14, as residents took greater interest in influencing their government. Today is the last day to register to cast a ballot in the Nov. 7 election.

    “If you are not registered to vote or have recently moved, please be sure to turn in or update your registration materials before today’s deadline,” Secretary of State Gigi Dennis said.

    Statewide registrations are up across party lines, with 18,113 more Democrats, 17,515 more Republicans and 12,465 more unaffiliated voters registered than in March, according to statistics at the secretary of state’s office.

    The rest are registered with other parties.

    Although Democrats showed a slight edge during the past six months, that advantage reversed recently. Republicans did 35 percent better than Democrats from mid- August to mid-September, possibly indicating a last-minute Republican voter registration push.

    During that period, Republican registration increased by 7,987, and Democratic registrations grew by 5,901.

    In early September, Steve Truebner, a veteran Republican specialist in turning out the vote, joined GOP gubernatorial candidate Bob Beauprez’s campaign.

    The total of 2,951,559 registered voters is about 4,000 fewer than the total in September 2004, but that was a presidential election year, when voting is typically much higher.

    Since then, the election rolls have been purged of people who failed to vote and are assumed to be dead or moved. So the 48,591 newly registered voters in the past six months are new voters in Colorado or former voters re-registering.

    Interest in voting could be driven by public concern about the war in Iraq, media reports on voting-machine doubts and rising numbers of absentee voters and campaign advertising as Election Day draws closer. Colorado also has 14 ballot issues driving people with special interests to the polls.

    Denver has seen 8,000 new voters register since the August primary.

    Arapahoe County, a GOP stronghold with 6 percent more Republicans than Democrats, saw the pace of voter registration double from August to September, County Clerk and Recorder Nancy Doty said. Some 4,300 people registered in September, she said.

    “Maybe people are starting to pay attention because of all of the TV ads,” she said.

    But Denver’s populous suburbs are becoming more and more unaffiliated, with about one-third of the voters looking hard at both parties’ candidates.

    Arapahoe County typically votes Republican, but this year is anyone’s guess, Doty said.

    “I think (unaffiliated voters) are the key to who wins,” Doty said. “In the past, it’s been Republicans. But this year, it’s very questionable. Anymore, Arapahoe is becoming a swing county.”

    In Jefferson County, as well, “the unaffiliated voter is the key,” elections director Susan Miller said. “Our history is that unaffiliated voters tend to vote Republican, but who knows this year?”

    Polls show that the mood of the nation and the state has soured toward the GOP, and some pundits predict that this year’s elections could be the worst for Republicans since 1974 and the Watergate scandal, when President Nixon resigned in the face of impeachment.

    1. It’s good for a party, that is in complete control, to take a good smack in the face to put it back in check.  This is what the founding fathers had established to keep government balanced.  Remember, this is a representative government of all the people.  Not one a representative government for those that vote Republican.

      With all of the scandals, debacles, and complete denial of reality, there is no reason to vote Republican.  Rather than the compassionate conservatives we were lead to believe were in the Republican party, we found most Republicans are neither compassionate nor conservative.

  4. Your only surviving daughter is killing your grand children.

    You think that when taxpayers pay more money out of their pockets – it is not a tax increase.

    Your idea of activism is to go out and get an abortion to support planned parenthood.

    Campaign finance reform is the solution to shutting that damn talk radio up.

    You are the odd man out in the Republican party but you keep thinking your narrow views are “Mainstream.”

    You believe the BIG TENT is a place where conservatives are not welcome.

    1. you believe running a budget deficit is the way to pay for tax cuts

      when your idea of freedom is to take more federal government control and less state’s rights

      when you believe the BIG TENT is where you tell anyone who disagrees with you to get out of the tent

        1. the primary – thought he was the best man for the job. Would have voted for Rivera for sure, Rayburn – no way; Crank was a question mark in my mind. Lamborn was the one who I sat in a room and watched say “I believe God has chosen me to go to Washington to do his work” as close as I can recall. I wasn’t going to vote for him from the get go – I don’t believe in theocracies of any form. I can be a conservative without supporting a theocratic state. I still believe John Anderson would have won in a walk over versus Fawcett. Does that help?

          1. I also supported John Anderson and voted for him in the primary.  I think he’s a no-nonsense guy that’s able to think for himself.  He at least built himself on a solid foundation of issues instead of a campaign of sleaze.

            Rivera on the other hand is owned by Focus On The Family and the Dobsonites.  I’ll never vote for Rivera in any race.

            And so far as Lamborn thinking he’s God’s chosen one… that may please the Dobsonite extremists which will probably win him the election, but there’s a lot of people that don’t go along with the Dobsonites.

            I agree that Anderson would have easily defeated Fawcett.  Doug “holier than thou” Lamborn is going to have a more difficult time convincing the moderates and undecided voters.

            1. Rivera would have been a better choice than what we have… but I will never vote for him.  Not since he showed up for the after-school reading tutor program I was volunteering at in an underprivileged school district, and announced that all the kids would get to go outside and play soccer instead of that boring reading stuff today.  We all went outside, and there’s a camera crew waiting to take publicity photos of Rivera playing soccer with all these underprivileged kids.

              I know, you do what you need to do in politics, and those pictures will sell him better than his having a long record of real community service.  You also pay the price, though, and the price on that one is that I’ll never vote for Lionel Rivera in any race for as long as I live.

              I, too, voted for Anderson, and think he’d have beat Jay Fawcett in the general.  Alas, though, it was not to be.  I don’t know anything at all about Fawcett; but he’s not Doug Lamborn, and that’s all I need to know at this stage of the game.

          2. I only know about this race from this blog.  I was responding the the rant about RINO’s.  If I can hold my nose when her right wingers run, she should put up with “my kind” too. If they don’t stop shooting down fellow R’s, the party will implode. I agree about theocracies, no place for that in this country.  Take religion back to homes and churches, leave it out of government.  Can anyone say “Taliban”?

    1. Interesting though is that the fallout from Foley was at its peak during that time, probably causing Musgrave to lose a few points, had Foley not happened Musgrave would probably be up by more right now.  That being said, I sincerely hope there is an independent investigation on the whole matter and justice is served.

      1. The only thing more worthless than teats (Ruthie, those are mammary glands) on a boar (Cybil, that’s a man-pig…not the same thing as the infamous pig-dogs chasing BB) would be Marilyn Musgrave in a Democratic-controlled House of Representatives.  The citizens of CD4 just as well tell her to stay at home and send her check directly to Ft. Morgan. If CD4 wants any representatation at all, and they have even the slightest inkling that the Dems will be in charge…it would be in their best interests to send Paccione to DC.

        1. this is yet another one of George W’s schemes to manipulate people.  i have unconfirmed reports that Kim Jong Il and George W. actually planned all of this together along with the aliens from Area 51 to divert attention from Foley.

            1. ….we’re not simply talking about “aliens” as in the kitchen help at your local Mexican restaurant but “aliens” as in the Klingons and the Vulcans boarding and taking over the starship “Enterprise”…..Beam me up, Scotty!

  5. From that same Denver Post story, Ed is now just up 6 points:

    http://www.denverpos

    Last week it was 11, two weeks ago 17.  At this rate, O’Donnell will have a 12 point lead on election day. 

    Just kidding, this one is going down to the wire, no matter what the Big Line says.

    1. There are no allegations in that article, nor credible evidence that I can see, supposing that Noonan’s campaign and the League of Women Voters coordinated anything.  That would be illegal, and there’s absolutely, positively no reason for believing it.  Noonan’s campaign didn’t work with the LWV on writing those questions.  They didn’t, by any account, have anything to do with it.  The text on that web site was available to anyone, and it’s a bit silly, IMO, to suppose that it was put up as a hidden clue to the LWV about what they should ask in the debate… especially since the resulting question sounded so awful and confusing anyway.

      What’s being said is that the LWV acted in too partisan a way.  The LWV is, in my experience, generally fair and impartial.  It looks like someone just screwed up here.  It makes perfect sense for them to prepare for the debate by looking at each campaign so that they ask questions about the focal points of each candidate’s campaigns and highlight the strengths and weaknesses of each.  In that case, though, someone took text — not particularly meaningful text, either — rather than issues, promises, or other meaningful campaign issues to ask about.

      It doesn’t appear that the mistake would help Noonan too much, though… at least, not unless she spends way too much time reading her own campaign web site.

    2. SOURCE SUMMARY:

      *Candidate websites totaled five questions, including:

      One from Mike Kopp; one from Paula Noonan and three compiled from both.

      *The League of Women Voters drafted 11 questions, including five based on national issues; two based on state issues; four based on county issues; two based on current ballot initiatives; and six based on Colorado legislation, including bills supported by Rep. Jim Kerr.

      The following is the complete list of questions proposed by the league to the candidates. At the end of each question is the source the league says it used to draft the question with.

      *If you are elected, what will be your highest priority in serving the district?

      Source: League of Women Voters of Jefferson County standard opening question

      *As energy costs continue to rise and plans for new coal fired plants in Colorado are being made, there are growing concerns about air quality and opportunities for developing a renewable energy industry in Colorado. Please describe the Colorado energy future that you envision and the specific actions that will bring your vision to life.

      Source: League of Women Voters of Colorado Member & CO Legislation HB1317

      *How would you lead the Colorado Legislator to be more proactive about water quality issues such as reducing polluted runoff, protecting drinking water and managing storm water?

      Source: LWVCO Program – AWARE Colorado & CO Legislation HB1352

      *What are your plans to ensure that every Coloradan has health coverage?

      Source: National League of Women Voters & CO Legislation SB44

      *What should be done at the state level, if anything, to combat the high cost of prescription drugs for Colorado residents?

      Source: National League of Women Voters

      *Should emergency contraception be made available on a timely and over the counter basis from pharmacists?

      Source: National League of Women Voters Position and CO Legislation HB1212

      *What role should the State take in being involved with individuals or families in making their own choices about medical care or therapies?

      Source: Candidate Position Website – Paula Noonan, Individual Rights and CO Legislation HB 1128, HB1396 & SB208

      *What will you do to improve Colorado’s economy?

      Source: Candidate Websites – Mike Kopp, The Economy and Fiscal Responsibility & Paula Noonan, The Economy and CO Legislation HB1105

      *What is your position on the business personal property tax?

      Source: Candidate Websites – Mike Kopp,The Economy and Fiscal Responsibility

      *What is your position on Amendment 40 Term Limits for Judges?

      Source: League of Women Voters of Jefferson County Member on Current CO Amendment

      *What is your impression of the increasing amounts of secrecy – and decreased access to public information – at all levels of government?

      Source: National League of Women Voters

      *How would you preserve civil liberties while giving our government the necessary tools to fight terrorism?

      Source: National League of Women Voters

      *How do you define the State’s role in setting Immigration policy?

      Source: Candidate Websites – Mike Kopp, Reforming Immigration & Paula Noonan, Immigration and Insourcing and CO Legislation Referendum K

      *When should eminent domain be used to take over private property?

      Source: Candidate Websites – Mike Kopp, Property Ownership & Paula Noonan, Individual Rights and LWV of Jefferson County Study 2005

      *What would you do to secure open space within your district?

      Source: League of Women Voters of Jefferson County Member & Plan Jeffco Member

      1. I did some research with the questions listed by Miss Ive. This is what I discovered.

        Scorecard for issues coming off of Noonan’s, Kopp’s, Kerr’s or Dittemore’s website. Kerr does not have a website, but had sponsored several bills which most all passed and were signed by Governor Owens.

        TOTAL SCORE:
          NOONAN- 11
          DITTEMORE- 0
          KERR- 0
          KOPP- 6

        ISSUES NOT ADDRESSED IN THE LWV QUESTIONNAIRE THAT ARE ADDRESSED IN CANDIDATE WEBSITES

        1. EDUCATION
          a. NOONAN
          b. DITTEMORE
          c. KOPP
        2. CHILDREN AND FAMILIES
          a. DITTEMORE
          b. KOPP
        3. CIVIL RIGHTS
          a. DITTEMORE
        4. WILDFIRE MITIGATION
          a. KOPP
        5. UNDERAGE DRINKING
          a. KERR HB05-1306
        6. SUICIDE PREVENTION
          a. KERR SB06-067

        SUMMARY

        1. NOONAN’S ISSUES ARE COVERED 2/1 OVER THE NEAREST  CANDIDATE.

        2. EVERY ISSUE ADDRESSED IN NOONAN’S WEBSITE IS COVERED IN THE QUESTIONS POSED BY THE LWV EXCEPT EDUCATION.

        3. DITTEMORE AND KERR’S ISSUES ARE TOTALLY IGNORED

        4. KOPP’S ISSUES ARE ONLY COVERED IF NOONAN MENTIONS THEM IN HER WEBSITE

        5. THE QUESTIONS EITHER COVER ISSUES IN NOONAN’S WEBSITE OR THE QUESTIONS COVER ISSUES NOT ADDRESSED IN ANY CANDIDATE WEBSITES

        I SUSPECT SOME OF THE ISSUE HERE IS THE ISSUES IMPORTANT TO THE LEAUGE OF WOMEN VOTERS ARE ALSO IMPORTANT TO DEMOCRATS SO SOME OF THIS LOOKS MORE LIKE COORDINATION WHEN IT IS JUST A LIBERAL “NON-PARTISAN” ORGANIZATION.

        I FEEL BAD FOR DITTEMORE WHO HAS OBVIOUSLY BEEN IGNORED AS IRRELEVANT BY HIS OWN PARTY; HE HAS BECOME THE RODNEY DANGERFIELD OF THE PARTY.

  6. Governor Bill Owens and Rep. Bob Beauprez drew less than 25 people to a “rally” in Pueblo yesterday according to
    http://www.pueblochieftain.com
    Pretty pathetic. I wonder how many Republican candidates chose to show up with Beauprez who is clearly going down in flames. Where weree all the far out right wingers Beauprez has been pandering to for the last year? Marc Holtzman drew over 200 when he campaigned in Pueblo seven months ago,

  7. A report this morning from Heartbroken Tiger http://198.66.219.82… indicating that optical scanners may have a wee bit of a problem getting it right with Judge Charles Barajas and Referendum F. Bold black lines printed on the face of the two ballot sheets, if held up to the light, are clearly visible on the back of those sheets and most likely will read by the optical scanners. Additionally, curiously, on all ballot questions the “Yes” precedes the “No,” with the exception of Referendum F, where the “No” precedes the “Yes.” Curiouser and curiouser.

    1. Denver Election Commission – what a joke.

      They can’t get the machines to work properly, they blame it on the judges, then the tell everyone to play it safe and vote absentee, and now this.

      As Ed Norton would say, Sheeesh.

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