Weekend Open Thread

“Many a calm river begins as a turbulent waterfall, yet none hurtles and foams all the way to the sea.”

–Mikhail Lermontov

28 Community Comments, Facebook Comments

  1. davebarnes says:

    Today (Saturday) is World Gin Day.

  2. DavidThi808 says:

    Is https://coloradosun.com/ a quality news org? It looks good in a quick reading.

    and are they providing decent local coverage?

    • MichaelBowman says:

      Yes…and you get Littwin as a bonus! 

    • The realist says:

      Yes, quite good.

    • JohnInDenver says:

      Colorado Sun has a solid staff — https://coloradosun.com/about-us/ 

      I'm not certain what "local coverage" you are looking for — but there is a clear Colorado focus, some enterprise writing beyond dissemination of press releases, and good guest "Opinion" writers. 

      Recently, they announced

      Colorado Sun with National Trust purchases 24 Front Range newspapers

      A note from our editor: We’re proud to ensure that these community newspapers will remain in local hands and continue serving readers from Castle Rock to Brighton and beyond

      I think they are still figuring out how the all-digital Sun and the 24 print-focused papers will fit together. 

    • notaskinnycook says:

      It’s good enough that we pay for it. They picked up several people that the Post sloughed off when the hedge fund took over: Eric Lubbers, Jason Blevins, Tamara Chuang, Jennifer Brown, John Ingold, Michael Booth, Kevin Simpson, Jesse Paul and Danika Worthington.

  3. MichaelBowman says:

    V, many, many thanks for putting Uprooted on my radar.  A great read, one that could just as well have been opining about our beloved Phillips and Yuma counties, as well as my maternal grandfather’s Ottertail County, MN.  She espouses the kind of conservatism that, most days, seems lost forever. 

  4. DavidThi808 says:

    What's a livable wage? Denver business leaders say it's 45K. At Windward we looked at this awhile ago and decided it was 62K.

    The more interesting question is – what do you do then? At Windward we immediately increased the salary of any full time employees below that amount to 62K. Granted, easy for us as the vast majority of our employees were already paid over 62K.

    Regardless of the number, the key step is not recognizing the number, it's meeting it.

    • kwtree says:

      Average rent for a 2 bedroom apartment in Lakewood is $1500. Time on a waiting list for subsidized apartments may be years. 

      Going by the rule that housing costs shouldn’t exceed 1/3 of income, households need to be making about $45,000/ year. 

      Beginning teachers, parapros, and substitutes make much less than this; therefore they often can’t afford to live in the districts in which they teach.

  5. MichaelBowman says:

    Ken will make a great Ambasasor:

    Report: Mexican officials say Salazar will be next US ambassador to Mexico

    The Biden administration will nominate former Colorado Sen. Ken Salazar (D) as its next ambassador to Mexico, according to a report in Mexican daily La Jornada.

    The report cites Mexican Foreign Ministry sources, who confirmed knowledge of the upcoming nomination.

    While Salazar's nomination has not been made official by the White House, his name has been publicly tied to the role in various reports, and the official nomination is expected to come soon.

  6. kwtree says:

    Colorado Rep.  Ron (Loren)  Hanks toured the Arizona “fraudit”, according to the Hill.

    He was one of a number of Republican legislators seeking to replicate Arizona’s attempt to invalidate the 2020 election, which Trump LOST.

    Virginia Sen. Amanda Chase (R), Pennsylvania Sen. Doug Mastriano (R), Georgia Rep. Vernon Jones (R), Alaska Rep. David Eastman (R) and Colorado Rep. Ron Hanks (R), all of whom were present at the rally and all but one of whom were photographed at or said later they marched to the Capitol, have toured the Arizona audit.

    • The realist says:

      People need to understand that there is still a conspiracy to overthrow our government, and apparently Rep Loren Hanks (R – Who-knows-where) is a happy participant. Let us not forget that he threatened to break the neck of a Republican colleague. And do not forget that he was dutifully awaiting the "next meetup" behind the US Capitol on January 6.

      • The realist says:

        I wonder if Hanks was waiting for the armed, violent militia members to take control of the US Capitol then he would move in and claim whatever seat he wanted in the House or Senate . . . not one to get his hands dirty, you know.

  7. kwtree says:

    Speaking of Colorado insurrectionists, Politico's Warner wrote an in-depth profile of Jeffco cop-beater / insurrectionist Jeff Sabol.

    Sabol was a  child abuser. The roots of his violence go way back.

    But his anti-government resentment started when Barack Obama was elected. Trump just gave permission for those feelings to bloom, and gave Sabol ( and other insurrectionists) a venue for their rage.

    Sabol has claimed that he was "trying to keep the peace" and "trying to protect" the police officer when he was holding a baton over the officer's neck.

    However, there is plenty of video showing him charging cops, dragging them down the steps, beating them, taking  away their batons. Sabol is presently held in jail in Washington, DC, and a judge has denied bail  for this classic flight risk who tried to leave the country.


  8. MichaelBowman says:

    A good read in today's NYT.  

    Yes, one should find it disturbing. 

    • MichaelBowman says:

      The money shot: 

      For the most part, America finds the money to pay for the things it values. In recent decades, and despite deep gridlock in Washington, we have spent trillions of dollars on wars in the Middle East and tax cuts for the wealthy. We have also spent trillions of dollars on health insurance subsidies and coronavirus relief. It is in our power to wipe out poverty. It simply isn’t among our priorities.

      • JohnInDenver says:

        I'm leery of thinking of "wiping out poverty."  Poverty is a word, a concept defined by money, a variable that can get pulled or pushed, smashed or stretched, and (in my humble opinion) misses some key variables.

        I much prefer concepts such as "ending hunger in our nation's children." And "making sure people can live in safe housing." "Providing sufficient clean water." "helping people get the education they need." How we move toward goals such as those can be more consistently and objectively measured. 

    • Voyageur says:

      Except for starvation or chronic disease, poverty is relative.  In the Cold War, the Soviets decided to show the film "Grapes of Wrath" to show how rough the poor had it in America.

      It was pulled from theaters because audiences had two main reactions.

      About the jalopies in the film:  "In America, the poor have cars!"

      About the scene where the company store overcharges for hamburger: "In America, the poor eat meat!"

      In what other nation in the history of the world have do-gooders complained because obesity is so common among the poor?

      Build a strong "free" system of health care, food security and education.  But forget about eliminating poverty because that can only be done by giving everybody an above average income.

      • MichaelBowman says:

        If you make those first three truly accessible and free, you’ll all-but-eliminate the latter.  

        Working on a really fun project that involves Route 66 and just watched the original Grapes of Wrath two evenings ago.  The Okies were part climate refugees and part victims of the financial system. In many ways, not much has changed since the Joads headed west (except the refugees are coming from south of the border and not Oklahoma)

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