Monday Open Thread

“Sometimes the truth hurts. And sometimes it feels real good.”

–Henry Rollins


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    • Gilpin Guy says:

      My wifes mother and her sisters also had to evacuate Jamestown because of the Calwood Fire.  The smoke was horrific.  The last report I saw was that the Lefthand Canyon Fire was 100% contained with 312 acres burned.

      Besides looking for governmental leadership in climate change mitigation, I think the people living in the Red Zone like myself (Gilpin/9,000ft) need to step up with new financing models for WUI protections like Forest Improvement Districts (FID).  A FID can raise funds through a mill levy which could be used to help create emergency egress routes for limited access subdivisions.  The funds raised could be used to make royalty payments to land owners for access to their land during emergency evacuations.  The jury is still out on mitigation efforts.  Climate change like the devil winds can overwhelm the best mitigated properties.

      We also need to revisit zoning in the WUI.  At some point the insurance companies aren't going to insure a dangerous property.  It's a complex problem because the insurance companies are also on the hook for hurricane and earthquake damage.

      Living in the WUI is wonderful most of the time.  People who choose to live in the High Country have an obligation to help pay for their own protection.  Promote FID's as responsible living in a dangerous land.



      • Conserv. Head Banger says:

        @Gilpin Guy: yes, indeed. Zoning changes are long overdue for those who want to live in the WUI. And maybe insurance penalties for those who build using non-fire resistant materials (shake shingles make for good firewood). And penalties for those who don’t have defensible space around their homes. 

        Mountain and foothills communities also greatly need Community Fire Protection Plans. I don’t have time to look today. But one can find existing plans by wandering around the website of the Colorado State Forest Service.

        Added: WUI = Wildlands Urban Interface

        • JohnInDenver says:

          An erst-while brother-in-law lives in a New Mexico rural-ish WUI, and was active with the volunteer fire department (and lots of other civic minded groups).  One additional step they took was forming a group to do volunteer "defensible space" creation.  Once a month or so, they'd gather for 5 or 6 hours of work, taking on individual plots for those who could not clear or afford to pay someone to clear. Four or five people can make a heck of an impact … and then go have beer afterwards. 

          Seemed like a good way to build community, spread tactics and experience, and create a great deal more awareness of the need.  

      • ParkHill says:

        Maybe live in "tiny homes" instead of rustic mountain cabins (yeah, I know).

        To evacuate, all you need is a 3/4 ton truck, like a Ford 350.

    • kickshot says:

      Support the Green New Deal

  1. davebarnes says:

    Today is National Seafood Bisque Day.

  2. RepealAndReplace says:

    Mike Littwin posed the $64,000 question yesterday in the Colorado Sun…..

    Where does the Colorado GOP go after Gardner's defeat? Or as he puts it, "besides, in what should be the first order of business, kicking Ken Buck out as party chair."

    My guess is that Buck doesn't leave without a fight. And since it is possible that Buck may be one of only two Republican remaining in the Colorado Congressional delegation in January, he may actually emerge stronger. (You know, a bigger fish in an ever shrinking pond.)




    • ParkHill says:

      The question is where does the Republican base go?

      The Richie Riches are mostly libertarians, but outside of Chamber of Commerce they don’t have the numbers.

      The base is the foot soldiers who have been whipped up into a Trumpian frenzy by Racism, Evangelism, Gunism, Maskism, Qanonism. The sense I get from the few trumpists in my feed is that they are desperate, and struggling to stay lashed to the trump mast. That includes dumping on any Republican stupid enough to try “moonwalking” away from Trump.

      Hopefully, Cornyn and any other moonwalkers will encourage turnout drop-off.

      • Conserv. Head Banger says:

        “where does the Republican base go……….”

        Some smarter ones may move on. Actually, the smart Republicans are those who “moonwalk” away from Trump. Myself, I “moonwalked” in early 2016.

        The God (fundamentalist Christians), guns, anti-abortion (and also anti-contraception) crowd will try to stick it out, aided and abetted by far right wing talking heads more radical than Fox. As R & R opined, that base will get smaller; possibly due to die-offs, people getting too depressed to stay involved, and others getting out.

        Of course, all bets are off if Dems overreach in the legislature come January, or in Congress if they take control.

        • ParkHill says:

          I'm trying to imagine what Democratic overreach would be.

          Every item in the Party platform is extremely popular, so following that formula would lead to increased support. 

          • Voyageur says:

            The showdown will be on court packing. It worked wonders for FDR.😢

            • RepealAndReplace says:

              That was a different time, V. And it did result in the "switch in time."

              FDR had nominally huge majorities in both houses of Congress but in reality he did not. The segregationists Dems from the south were like a third party which was in a coalition with the GOP on court packing  expansion.

              Today, both parties are more ideologically homogeneous. (Caveat: there are few Dems who might balk at court expansion:  Manchin, Bennet, Hick, and Angus King.)

              All of this is an academic exercise at this point because: (1) the Dems need 51 reliable (I'm looking at Joe Manchin whom Moscow Mitch will wine and dine in an attempt to get him to change parties) senators, and (2) those 51 reliable Dem senators need to have the resolve to abolish the filibuster. (Again, there are a few Dems who might balk at abolishing the filibuster. See my list of names above, and add Bernie Sanders who has expressed reluctance to getting rid of it.)


            • MichaelBowman says:

              Can we start calling it unpacking??

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