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So Who's It Gonna Be, Dan?

by: Colorado Pols

Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 16:56:34 PM MDT


Tomorrow evening (we believe it's 5:00 p.m., if you were wondering about the specific time) is the deadline for Gubernatorial candidates to choose their Lieutenant Governor running mate. As CBS4 reported over the weekend, Republican Gubernatorial nominee Dan Maes (it still feels weird to write that) was holed up in the Maes Cave over the weekend pondering the decision.

So who's it going to be? Who would be willing to take on the role, knowing full-well that a Maes victory is about as likely as the Tea Party building a mosque? We'd be surprised to see an up-and-coming Republican agree to the role, because it wouldn't be great for their career to sit on a ticket with a guy prone to bizarre insights like the U.N. bicycle conspiracy.

Apparently Maes told a Greeley radio station that he's looking at a Weld County resident with "legislative experience," which could mean someone like State Sen. Kevin Lundberg or Sen. Scott Renfroe. Lundberg would make sense, since he doesn't believe in Global Warming or, curiously telecommuting, and Maes is scared of bicycles because of the United Nations, or something. Oh, to be a fly on the wall in a policy discussion between Lundberg and Maes...
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So Who's It Gonna Be, Dan? | 93 comments
Is James Stockdale still alive?
I'm confident that Maes can make a giant sucking sound if necessary to attract votesl
LOL

[ Parent ]
Stop it!
you almost made me choke!

:-D

[ Parent ]
Amazing how many Republicans aren't answering their phones this week.....


"Politics determines who has the power, not who has the truth." Paul Krugman, 9/2010
I hear Bob "Gopray" is available...
he has lost before... he can handle it.

"Fake but accurate!" ~GOPwarrior "infrastructure,whatever that is." ~bjwilson83 "You leftist DICK!" ~ Laughing Boy
See you at the polls you dumb bastard.~Libertad  
Lundberg did endorse Maes.
Lundberg endorsed Maes and the GOP establishment would not be upset if they had to find a new candidate to hold onto his Senate seat
Surely Lundberg lives in Larimer county?
Senate District 15?  The wikipedia entry says he lives in Berthoud.

Of course, Maes might think Berthoud is in Weld county.

[ Parent ]
Correct.
Lundberg used to be HD49 Rep and that is both part of Larimer and Weld counties. Senate District 15 is just Larimer County territory, I think.  

"I wouldn't characterize caloric intake as "professional development." c rork
[ Parent ]
I still think Ray Martinez
was he ever on city council before he was Mayor?
No
He ran but lost about 6-8 years before.
[ Parent ]
He ran for and lost a State Senate
race in 2004 to Bob Bacon. And he, like Lundberg, hails from Larimer County.  

"I wouldn't characterize caloric intake as "professional development." c rork
[ Parent ]
He Was Mayor
He was the Mayor of Fort Collins for 3 terms, I believe.
[ Parent ]
Wayne Allard?
He said on Boyle's show (Brockler was filling in) that he was looking at a senator who was conservative.

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle
Allard has little to lose
He's not likely to re-enter political life in any significant way; getting stuck on the ticket with Maes won't harm him, worse comes to worse.

But I think Lundberg or Renfroe are more likely.

"We're below sharks and contract killers." -- Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), speaking on Congress's 9% approval rating

[ Parent ]
Little to lose?
Has Allard no dignity at all?
[ Parent ]
You do not go from Senior U.S. Senator
to second fiddle to Tin Foil Danny Maes.  it will never happen.
[ Parent ]
Yeah true,
Lundberg probably. It would be good if he could pick someone known statewide though.

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle
[ Parent ]
And nothing to gain
Why would Allard want to bash his head against the wall for three months? He's already climbed that wall.
[ Parent ]
It feels good when you stop...?

[ Parent ]
Wayne Allard might endorse that lunatic but there is no way he would be caught dead as his LG

[ Parent ]
We'll know tomorrow by 3p
If no LG is announced then Dan is out or getting out. What would Hickenlooper do if all those Maes supportters suddenly showed up for Tanc? How does Hick look in an effective 2-man race?

It might take the GOP weeks to firm up a  candidate ... hummmm all the suspense and mystery makes for a lot of news paper reading.

look in the sky
If you see a ReMAX balloon you know Dave Liniger has flown to the rescue. A viable Republican will start out ahead in the polls.
Dan Maes is nothing but a huckster as demonstrated yet again by his sponging $300 from Freda Poundstone.  
[ Parent ]
So you're saying its Liniger
So you've heard that Maes is out too?

I hear Dave is supported by Tanc too. Hummmm interesting, very interesting........

Hummm whos the LG? or who's your fav?

[ Parent ]
If Maes stays in the race,
.
he will be in 3rd place by 1 September.  

The real contest will pit the Hickmeister against Tommy the Tanc.  

The more interesting question: who will be Tancredo's running mate ?  Will it be Sallie Clark or Lionel ?  

Personally, I'd like to see WLJ on the ticket with him, but she does have some standards that she just will not compromise, even if Tom is for legalization.
.

Lionel is out
not clean
[ Parent ]
Shawn Mitchell
I would think Shawn Mitchell would be a good pick for him. Mitchell lacks the "right-wing whacko" moniker hung on so many others with the same number of years in the leg, yet still has a voting record well to the right of center and has been an ardent supporter of Maes at least since the State Assembly. The only problem is that I'm just not sure Maes knows who Mitchell is... It's too bad really. Like I said, Mitchell isn't a "whacko" so the RINOs tend to like him. He has backed enough bread and butter conservative issues so that "the whackos" like him also and yet, he has this HUGE Libertarian following on FB.

Tancredo has a rather tenuous hold on the GOPers he has been able to pull off Maes... I would think Mitchell could go a long way as a running mate to pull them back in.

Oh of course.
I wasn't thinking state senators. Mitchell represents part of Weld county. I have to believe that Maes has had the chance to meet him at some of the Republican events this year.

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle
[ Parent ]
Shawn "underpants" Mitchell? That guy?

[ Parent ]
Could be, Mitchell is solid ... but it won't happen for Shawn

[ Parent ]
Truths
1. It's Maes' call, and he had better shit or get off the pot soon.

2. Nothing that BJ thinks matters.  It's not his decision.

Today, you're either going to get better or you're going to get worse, but you're never going to be the same.  Which one will it be?  --Joseph V. Paterno

Actually
Dan Maes represents the people, and cares what we think. It's why we love him.

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle
[ Parent ]
Carefull or he wil be calling you to help with the mortgage.

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There is nothing that you think that matters
Maybe I was unclear the first time.

Today, you're either going to get better or you're going to get worse, but you're never going to be the same.  Which one will it be?  --Joseph V. Paterno
[ Parent ]
We'll see about that in November.
In the meantime, I'm having fun watching the Dems squirm. They can't bear to have Obama campaign for them.

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle
[ Parent ]
You love him? Seriously? That's fucking hilarious. Aren't you the one that mockingly
referred to liberals as "worshiping" Obama? You love a gubernatorial candidate who might be clinically insane?

That's some serious devotion.  

"But, when it comes to voting, when we only have two choices, you've got to grow up and realize there's a big difference between a disappointing friend and a deadly enemy" - Bill Maher

[ Parent ]
There's a huge difference
between loving a candidate and worshiping him. Only in the world of left wing loons does "Tea Party candidate who listens to the people" equate to "clinically insane".

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle
[ Parent ]
Believing the UN is using a bike share program as part of a
conspiracy because some crazy Teabagger handed you a portfolio is what possibly makes you clinically insane.

But I'm still stuck on you "loving" Dan Maes. That's so awesome on so many levels. Is Mr. Maes aware of your love or are you playing it coy with him?

"But, when it comes to voting, when we only have two choices, you've got to grow up and realize there's a big difference between a disappointing friend and a deadly enemy" - Bill Maher

[ Parent ]
you and three other "people"
are the same as "the people" BJ./  Whatever tiny credibility Tin Foil Danny Maes had went away when he discovered bicycles are the source of Communist tyranny.
[ Parent ]
Dan's remarks (when not taken out of context)
are perfectly accurate, despite the chuckles you get out of them. Last time I checked 33% of Coloradans agree with me (Tea Party), or maybe 42% if you go by the head to head poll of Maes vs. Hickenlooper. As much as I hate his pick of Tambor Williams, it's only going to lend him even more credibility with the establishment/moderate types.

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle
[ Parent ]
Lite gov carries no weight in people's decision
only serves as a hit person during the campaign and life insurance afterwards.

If Williams can raise money, that's a plus.  Maes needs the income.

Today, you're either going to get better or you're going to get worse, but you're never going to be the same.  Which one will it be?  --Joseph V. Paterno

[ Parent ]
Dan remarks, when not taken out of context
demonstrate that he is a total idiot, a buffoon and a cheap crook.  Show me a "context" that proves riding bicycles ushers in Red revolution.  Come on, I double dog dare you.
  You man is profoundly stupid, an embarassment to the moron community.  
[ Parent ]
I say Mark Hillman
He is not currently holding down an elected position and he has money and he has supported Maes.  

 For politics, geezers are golden.
by: BlueCat @ Tue Aug 16, 2011 at 19:19:14 PM MDT
And he's about as useful as a football bat.


Today, you're either going to get better or you're going to get worse, but you're never going to be the same.  Which one will it be?  --Joseph V. Paterno
[ Parent ]
Aluminium, wood or bamboo?

[ Parent ]
Vampire.


History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme.  (Mark Twain)
[ Parent ]
Damn - almost spewed my soda on that one...


"We're below sharks and contract killers." -- Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), speaking on Congress's 9% approval rating
[ Parent ]
Dwyer signature
I think you should update it to include the 1st and 10th Amendment since those were also put on the chopping block by Republicans in just the last month - so much for protecting what our found fathers gave us.

Republicans will throw anybody and their rights under the bus the second they smell an opportunity.

"Suddenly, it may be cool to be American again" - William J. Kole

[ Parent ]
Thanks for the suggestion
But, if I included every American institution which the repubs and their foreign born patrons were trying to destroy, I wouldn't have room for my adroit comments.

The 14th Amendment is critical because it not only defines US citizenship but it guarantees "due process of the law" to all US citizens.  They are emphasizing the former, but really want to gut the latter in favor of the 10th amendment.

I think it is time for all real americans to read, again, Ray Bradberry's classic short story:  The Martians.  They look like us, they sound like us, they even extend a friendly smile to us....but they are not us  and they will destroy us...even as we sip their lemonade....

 For politics, geezers are golden.
by: BlueCat @ Tue Aug 16, 2011 at 19:19:14 PM MDT

[ Parent ]
Mark is a great proxy for Maes come election season
He'll hit the streets hard and transition into a cabinet position well.
[ Parent ]
Apparently it is drumroll please
Tambor Williams....

that's going to energize nobody. Well maybe Mark Hillman and the establishment

Who's that?


Where all the cool kids will be on Saturday - Code War!
[ Parent ]
Here's a link
I have no idea if she's actually his pick, but here's some quick info.

http://www.coloradojudicialper...

Don't believe everything you think.

[ Parent ]
Tambor can live on the $70k LG pay, unlike Garcia
who is used to making $250k++
[ Parent ]
You're kidding.

[ Parent ]
Nope, she was an early backer ... nothing like a qualified early backer

[ Parent ]
I'd need more than just your say-so that she was an early backer...
Sorry dude, but Maes was not Tambor's "kind of candidate"... If I did enough research I am certain I could find her name on a McInnis endorsement list from the State Assembly.
During her time in the Leg she was dogged by the RINO tag dues to her voting record. But she kept winning her seat back because she was an early and spirited member of Team Norton (Tom, not Jane) and often ran on his slate back when slates were legal, accepted and encouraged. Her appontment to the Owens Administration was a part of the fence mending that followed the 1998 GOP Primary. Her "record" is more a compliment to Bill Owen's coalition building abilities than her own. Remember, back in 1998, Owens was the Right Winger in the GOP Primary, to Norton's middle of the road candidacy.

So, given all of that... Can you please tell us how in the world Tambor would have gone against all of her friends in the Owens crew to support Dan Maes instead of Scotty McInnis.

[ Parent ]
An unknown picks an unknown.
[ Parent ]
She's not completely unknown
She was in the State House for nearly 8 years - lot's of votes, statements, and news articles to comb thru.

"Suddenly, it may be cool to be American again" - William J. Kole
[ Parent ]
Didn't she also run DORA?
Sometime wayyy before before Erin Toll got suspended fired removed replaced something.
[ Parent ]
Right you are. n/t
[ Parent ]
I wonder if that's how Dan "successful businessman" Amaesing Credit knows her.

[ Parent ]
Mark Hillman pushed for her
and the establishment is pleased with it. She is on the short short list for sure, I have confirmation. And it is EXTREMELY likely she'll be the pick, though not 100% certain
[ Parent ]
Nah the newpapers, radio and TV will help Maes get known .... its their duty
more importantly they'll be quoting him as he stays on message .... God is the mayor ready for the onslaught?

He's got cops beating people and gangs beating lone walkers downtown ... I bet he'll manage to get some messaging out. But how does he counter Maes...what are the arguments that he's too green?

[ Parent ]
...which, if you think about, is exactly who he needs to energize.
Not sure about Tambor myself yet, need to learn more about her.

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle
[ Parent ]
Tambor is a good person
...and a good pick for Maes

She's very popular in Weld, as people saw her as a Legislator who kept her promises and represented the people well

She is also experienced and has ran many times - even if Maes doesn't win, Tambor will bring a very professional 'statesman-like' wisdom to the campaign, which helps all GOP campaigns

TABOR4LIFE

[ Parent ]
Who are you fucking kidding Beej - if you're BFF Crazy Maes picks Tambor
you'll be singing her praises whether you do research or not. You're a brainless shill. You know it and we know it.

"But, when it comes to voting, when we only have two choices, you've got to grow up and realize there's a big difference between a disappointing friend and a deadly enemy" - Bill Maher
[ Parent ]
You obviously know nothing about me.


"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle
[ Parent ]
Tamboras as the pick...
Would be proof Maes is clueless and actually stands for nothing. Had I known she was an "early supporter" (which I suriously doubt btw, I'm pretty sure she gives Ownens a call eachmorning to OK her makeup, "How do I look Bill?") I would have probably voted for McInnis at State Assembly.
[ Parent ]
Oops... in my haste to and WTF shock
It should read "Tambor as the pick"
[ Parent ]
Why did she support Maes over McInnis?


"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle
[ Parent ]
My choice would be
http://www.mesacounty.us/commi...

as she would sheepishly accept.

Heck no!
The Buck supporters would flee.

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle
[ Parent ]
Why, Beej? n/t


"The modern conservative is engaged in one of mans' oldest exercises in moral philosophy, that is the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness."    John Kenneth Galbraith
[ Parent ]
She was a big Norton supporter.


"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle
[ Parent ]
No "post-primary" Unity Movement in the republican party ?
(note: I accidently forgot to capitalize the word republican, but when I started to correct it , I thought, why bother? If the republicans want to use the "Democrat Party" term as a slap at all Democrats, then I think I will refrain from capitalizing that word as a sign of my ongoing disrespect.)

"The modern conservative is engaged in one of mans' oldest exercises in moral philosophy, that is the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness."    John Kenneth Galbraith
[ Parent ]
Oh yeah! That worked out so well last time!
This is a joke right?

If Dan makes her the pick, he might as well just choose Penry... More efficient that way.

[ Parent ]
State Rep. BJ Nikkel
represents part of Weld County. Maybe too inexperienced, but would break up the gubernatorial sausage-fest! She endorsed McInnis, but I doubt that's a problem.  Also, she is probably tea-party enough for Maes.
I heard she might have been McInnis's LG pick.


"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle
[ Parent ]
Nikkel
Would be a great choice.  I would say a great deal better than Tambor.  Love them both, but Tambor's age could be a factor.  Also, her voting record wouldn't do any favors for Maes with the T-baggers.  
[ Parent ]
It would be incorrect to label BJ as "inexperienced"
She may be new to elected office, but she has a wealth of experience, good conservative bona fides and a great pragmatic mindset that just about any campaign would benefit from. She just doesn't drink the Koolaid... When everyone else has the glazed eyes and slack jaws of the true believer, she keeps a pretty clear head and doesn't lose perspective.

And oh yeah... She knows how to ride a horse and has to own a dozen cowboy hats.

Maes could do a whole lot worse than BJ.

[ Parent ]
I think she would be good
Because she is very personable and is great with how she frames issues to the Republicans advantage - and does so in a very understandable way.

As a Dem I hope it's not her. As someone who enjoys watching the "discussion" in the race, she would be great.

Where all the cool kids will be on Saturday - Code War!

[ Parent ]
if Republicans do this correctly....
...Tambor will be celebrated as an excellent policy-wonk and stateswoman - a former legislator with leadership abilities

From there, the GOP Establishment will lavish praise on Maes for his ENERGY and CAMPAIGNING, and go on to label Tambor as someone who will revamp the entire campaign by bringing experience and wisdom - the GOPers will forgive Maes' past mishaps, citing inexperience, and point to Maes' good judgement in picking Tambor

And overall - the ticket will be set that Maes is great because he has energy and Tambor adds experience and wisdom

Lastly - even with Tancredo in - Maes' campaign is still VERY important because many down ticket races are relying on him, thus, his running a respectable campaign is of ultimate importance

TABOR4LIFE

And Santa will bring you a pony


Today, you're either going to get better or you're going to get worse, but you're never going to be the same.  Which one will it be?  --Joseph V. Paterno
[ Parent ]
Well if that's the case...
...I definitely hope that 101 passes!

I would hate to know the price on registering a 'pony'....

TABOR4LIFE

[ Parent ]
But if 101 fails
Your pony will be stolen from you by one of the Mad Max gangs roaming the state and there will be no police to report the theft to.

Where all the cool kids will be on Saturday - Code War!
[ Parent ]
Tina Turner is on my side, David....
...Tina Turner, dude...

TABOR4LIFE
[ Parent ]
what happens
if he can't find anyone in time? What's the penalty for that?
It would then fall to a vacancy committee...probably
The statutes do not specifically address what to do if the Gov. canddiate does not pick a candidate, but it does address what to do if the LG candidate picked does not accept. In that case it goes to the GOP vacancy committee [CRS.1-4-502(3)(c)]. It would presumedly do so also if Maes does not pick before deadline.

Retirement in action does not equal retirement of beliefs.
[ Parent ]
which appears to ber a moot point now
but thanks for the education Dan!
[ Parent ]
Does Tancredo have to pick an LG today?


"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle
[ Parent ]
He says he's sticking
with the ACP candidate who was already on the ballot. At least for now.
[ Parent ]
Wake up, beej!
Doug Campbell has BEEN the Light guv candidate for the ACP; AFAIK Tancredo kept him, unless he says otherwise today. (today is the deadline - 7 days after the primary, by rule)

The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein
[ Parent ]
But he CAN be replaced later,
.
same as for other candidates, as discussed last week.
.
[ Parent ]
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