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Speaker Carroll Gamely Tries To Engage Raging Penry

by: Colorado Pols

Fri Oct 30, 2009 at 12:59:44 PM MDT


As the Denver Post reports:

Dueling news releases from the Democratic speaker of the House and the Republican Senate minority leader over the state budget crisis likely signal a testy legislative session ahead.

Not only will budget woes consume the 2010 session, but the arguments will play out in a year when the minority leader, Josh Penry of Grand Junction, is trying to unseat Democratic Gov. Bill Ritter.

"I think it's going to get very ugly," predicted former state Sen. Norma Anderson, R-Lakewood, who served nearly 20 years in the legislature...

The tit-for-tat between Penry and House Speaker Terrance Carroll came after Carroll said he was "stunned" at Penry's budget proposals, including eliminating the governor's energy office and giving the lieutenant governor "real" responsibilities.

"The new energy economy is the single brightest light in our economy. Killing jobs in our fastest-growing economic sector is Penry's answer to the serious crisis facing Colorado?" Carroll said in a release.

"When Sen. Penry and the Republicans are ready to offer some serious solutions, we're ready to listen," Carroll added.

Penry, in return, accused Democrats of being AWOL and showing up in "full hyper ventilation."

"Welcome to the budget debate, Mr. Speaker," Penry said...

Yesterday's spat between Speaker Terrance Carroll and gubernatorial candidate/Sen. Josh Penry is just more of what we'll see continuously for as long as Penry remains a gubernatorial candidate. We admire Carroll's willingness to mix it up with Penry--we're sorry to say it's probably a waste of breath, arguing with somebody who has no intention of finding common ground with you, in fact arguing with someone motivated to find every way to disagree with you possible. We've established the lack of basis in reality for a good deal of what Penry says these days, but that's not slowing him down a bit. Any parents of teenagers out there? You know what we're talking about.

So it's the Governor's Energy Office today, is it? Let's take a brief look at that. According to the Long Bill, the energy office operates on a budget of $1.6 million. Fully $1.1 million of this total comes from federal funds, and the rest from the state's separate Clean Energy Fund--funded directly by statute from gaming and severance taxes. This means that there is no General Fund money going to this office. What's more, if it weren't for the Governor's Energy Office, the state would be limited in terms of taking advantage of certain federal stimulus energy funds. Now we know how Penry feels about the stimulus, but can somebody explain to us how Penry's suggestion to eliminate this particular office helps anything? If it won't help balance the budget, and makes Colorado less competitive for federal funds...why plant the flag here? It's just nonsense.

There are a couple of other claims by Penry in his press release, as summarized by the Post, mostly a cheap shot on Lt. Gov. Barbara O'Brien having 'no responsibilities.' That's pretty far from our understanding of her job as Speaker Carroll ably noted (and even if it were true, what does that have to do with fixing the budget?), but anybody who thinks Penry's throwaway line merits the dignity of an additional response can go for it.

Aren't the next ten months going to rock?

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Penry says the Lt. Gov. has no real responsibilities?
Well, that'll make it awfully difficult for him to tout Jane Norton's experience when he has to endorse her later in this election cycle. Might even give some ammo to Bennet/Romanoff.

Thanks for the figures on the Gov's energy office, Pols.

"Oh Lord, are there really people starving still?"


"no real responsibilities"?
Must be why Penry thought his former campaign manager, Janet "Bestiality" Rowland, would be perfect for the job. I know of no other politician as irresponsible as she is.

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And as we noted above
What would that have to do with fixing the budget, anyway? Would you eliminate a few state jobs and then make the Lt. Governor do all of them herself?

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Yes, they are going to rock
But I think it was good for Carroll to call bullshit on Penry.  It made Penry look like a petulant ass.

Wait. Josh did that all by himself.

Never mind.

Today, you're either going to get better or you're going to get worse, but you're never going to be the same.  Which one will it be?  --Joseph V. Paterno


Gotta admit, Penry is a self-starter ;-)


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Bottom line: We can't turst Mr. Penry
Anyone who is willing to throw around false staments at the rate Mr. Penry does can't be trusted. He doesn't bother to check his facts (the most recent being the Governor's Energy Office budget), even though, after five years as a member of the state legislaure he knows better. His statements may be fodder for the Republican base but in the meantime he is, almost daily, eroding his credibility. Voters simply can't believe a word he says.

It's a cynical politics that has no place in serious discussions.


Exercise your right to peaceably assemble and reclaim the commons. Stop the militarization of America.

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The biggest challenge
is to educate the electorate, because, to the extent that Reason prevails, Penry and his ilk do not.

We're all in this story together: Let's make sure that we write it well.
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Would shutting down the Governors' Energy Office
benefit the oil and gas companies in any way? If so, you need look no further for your answer.

"The modern conservative is engaged in one of mans' oldest exercises in moral philosophy, that is the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness."    John Kenneth Galbraith

oops she did it again
bartels writes it down and checks on nothing, as if it's all equal-- more he said /he said crap that tells the voters what exactly?

Hasn't Penry made it obligatory at this point for reporters to check out the basis of absolutely every single word he says? Because he keeps on repeating the bs:

"We heard scarcely a word from Democrats in the legislature when Bill Ritter started releasing convicted criminals from prison, or when the governor pushed the developmentally disabled out of basic services," he said.

Yeah the prison thing has been distorted by Penry beyond recognition and after pandering at the Grand Junction disabled facility for the cameras and the patients families, he admitted that he would have made the cut too.

http://www.denverpost.com/news...

Penry stresses that he never suggested that the unit shouldn't be closed, only that it was wrong to close it without a plan for placing all the patients in appropriate care. He said the planned closure likely would be tied up in a lawsuit.

Close it without a plan? Please. How many ways can penry have it?


Jayfree
That's too much like fucking work.

Why would you expect any reporter to do it?

Today, you're either going to get better or you're going to get worse, but you're never going to be the same.  Which one will it be?  --Joseph V. Paterno


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A good reporter would do it.
Bartels should know better. Or her editors should.


Sometimes, I guess, you have to let the inner bitch out.


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"Good reporter" is SO 20th century.
n/t

Today, you're either going to get better or you're going to get worse, but you're never going to be the same.  Which one will it be?  --Joseph V. Paterno

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Bartels is not the reporter many think here.
I've had several communications with her about matters from the obvious escaping her to outright major error - like the city the state Dems met in in 2004.  Oops, that was the Republican meeting city.

Shoddy, shoddy, shoddy.  But she kept her job with the close of the Rocky. One more reason I am such a cynic.  

"Politics determines who has the power, not who has the truth." Paul Krugman, 9/2010


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