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December 23, 2016 08:09 AM UTC

Christmas Weekend Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

However you celebrate it, or not, have a happy Christmas.

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63 thoughts on “Christmas Weekend Open Thread

  1. Pols,

    Let me help you with a little culture.

    It is Happy Hanukkah.

    It is Merry Christmas.

    If you are unsure, perhaps Happy Holidays.

    Happy Christmas suggests a lack of familiarity with Christian tradition.

    In my house we celebrate both, so I expect to be drinking Glog and making latkes at the same time.  I am looking forward to that.

    In any event, Season's Greetings.

     

  2. Obama knifes the Jews.

    On his way out of office Obama decided to break with history and not to veto the latest diplomatic attack on Israel.

    Expect this knifing to have lasting effects on the make up of the Dem coalition.

    Only self-loathing Jews will remain in the fold.

    1. For all you Andrew fans around here…….what actually happened is that the US chose to abstain on a UN Security Council resolution, introduced by our staunch ally New Zealand, calling upon Israel to stop building settlements on the West Bank. Israel has been illegally evicting local residents for years in favor of settlement construction that favors far right wing religious zealots.

      Is not really noteworthy news except for those far right wing religious zealots.

      1. Per the Washington Post:

        An Israeli official on Friday accused President Barack Obama of colluding with the Palestinians in a “shameful move against Israel at the U.N.” after learning the White House did not intend to veto a Security Council resolution condemning settlement construction in the West Bank and east Jerusalem the day before.

        “President Obama and Secretary Kerry are behind this shameful move against Israel at the U.N.,” the official said. “The U.S administration secretly cooked up with the Palestinians an extreme anti-Israeli resolution behind Israel’s back which would be a tail wind for terror and boycotts and effectively make the Western Wall occupied Palestinian territory,” he said calling it “an abandonment of Israel which breaks decades of US policy of protecting Israel at the UN.”

        1. "….secretly cooked up with the Palestinians……"  Lead sponsor of the resolution was New Zealand. I've never considered the Kiwis to be a stooge or puppet of anyone, including the Palestinians.

              1. Our pajama-boy blogger, to the best of my recollection, has never uttered the words, "I'm wrong". 

                I hope the new year sees him bound for Russia, where lies his heart and devotion. He will someday be well placed in the Trump/Putin regime. 

                1. Tiny,

                  Nice to hear from ya. 

                  Kind of ironic that the lefties are referring to conservative Americans as loving Russia.

                  Still having acceptance issues?

                  I understand they finally figured out how the Russians threw the election.  

                  Russian troops were manning the border between Iowa and Wisconsin so Hillary could not campaign in Wisconsin.  That must have been it.

                  1. Enjoy the next eight years spending your days like we did as children in the 1950s. Learning to know where the bomb shelters are…

                    That is one crazy ass Commander in Chief you elected, there…you traitorous snipe.

                    Hail Victory!

        2. This will be the last act of an independent foreign policy for the next four years.  Soon casino billionaire Sheldon Adelson will give the orders and Trump will obey.  The U.S. is about to be ruled by right wing Israeli parties on all significant issues.    Good for Obama to show what a U.S.oriented policy looks like.

          1. Right, blame the Jews.

            All American Jews are controlled by right wing Israeli parties, like the soon to be defacto head of the "right wing" Dem party, Senator Schumer.

            Schumer is not capable of thinking for himself because he is a Jew.  

            V reveals himself to be a bigot and anti-Semite.

            It is not possible for someone to disagree with you without being controlled by some boogey man, now right wing Israeli politicians.

            Enjoy the next 8 years looking under your bed.

            1. Bow down to Sheldon Edelson, you Hitler loving swine.  You called the president of the united states, a man twice your age and four times your IQ "boy" because that's what racist swine like you do.   And for the next four years, Adelson and Netanyahu will dictate every comma of U.S. middle east policy in pursuit of their mad dream of an apartheid state.  You emulate Hitler in your racism then claim to like Jewss as long as they embrace apartheid.
               You are giving psychopaths a bad name, Hitler boy.

                1. V the bigot

                  I referred to the President as pajama- boy President. As I recall pajama-boy was white.

                  I refer to you as an anti-Semite and a bigot. As I can tell you are old and a fool.

                  If Trump, like Schumer, agrees with Adelson and Netanyahu it is possible there is no Jewish control involved, just people who disagree with you, which from my perspective means they are not bigots like you are.

                  1. So, you think it is fine to call adult black men "boy" because that's what your momma taught you in your klan classes?  You don"'t even try to hide your racism. Do you, Hitler boy?  Fascist lickspittles like you give the klan a bad name.

                     

                    1. That's OK, V. As long as he doesn't smoke pot he has a home in Jeff Sessions’ Justice Department. KKK membership is no longer a disqualifier.

                    2. V the bigot:

                      Telling lies of other to deflect from your Jewish conspiracy theories.  Nice.

                      Here is another source describing Obama as pajama-boy:

                      DR. SEBASTIAN GORKA: Remember the red lines? The real reason he calls it ISIL and not ISIS… is because he doesn't want to remind people that the 'S' stands for Syria and that he drew the red lines again and again and again. And what happened? Assad kept on marching, the jihadis kept on marching. The fact is, this is all going to end on January the 21st. Our foreign policy has been a disaster. We've neglected and abandoned our allies. We've emboldened our enemies.

                      The message I have is a very simple one, it's a bumper sticker: the era of the Pajama Boy is over January 20th and the alpha males are back."

                       

                    3. Voyage of Lies and Bigotry:

                      As you know, I have never referred to the President as "boy".  I have referred to him as "pajama-boy".  Saying I referred to him as "boy" is a lie.  You are a liar.

                      Here is what you said;"

                      This will be the last act of an independent foreign policy for the next four years.  Soon casino billionaire Sheldon Adelson will give the orders and Trump will obey.  The U.S. is about to be ruled by right wing Israeli parties on all significant issues.    Good for Obama to show what a U.S.oriented policy looks like."

                      The dark control of the jews.  Anti-Semites used to refer to the Jewish bankers as controlling the world.  Now it is the "right wing Israeli parties". The US is ruled by Americans, some of whom are Jewish.  Living among the Americans are some bigots, one of whom is Voyageur.

                2. The fascist lickspittle calls the president "boy" and cheers at the hope that terrorists will kill his daughters.  Are you sure I'm the one getting carried away?  Or have you become so innured to toilet boys racism that you no longer notice it?

                   

                   

                   

                   

      2. And the resolution also had a section opposing violence of Hamas and other Arab groups.

        And the resolution passed 14-0, indicating the other 4 permanent members with veto power and all 10 of the rotating members voted for it.

        Those suggesting we should veto such a resolution are pushing the United States further and further from most of our allies and many other countries.

            1. Prune: if Palestinians have been at war with Israel since 1948, how do you account for the thousands of Arab Israeli citizens living in peace within Israel's borders? They are Palestinians by origin.

              1. Banger, me thinks your question indicates you have banged your head too many times. You may want to check into concussion protocol.While we are waiting for the results proceed with your prepared pontificating so we will know what a true conservative is thinking.

                    1. Well, trolls generally don't care about "the truth". That's not what they're here for. But for myself, I usually prefer to de-escalate if I have a choice. And my philosophy about blogging and commenting is basically the same as my teaching philosophy – I’m going to explore an issue, put the best facts and reasoning and phrasing I can out there, and what people do with it is their choice.

                      Anyway, it's a busy day for me…pack up the 7 strudels I made yesterday (thus bringing together my Jewish, Austrian, and SoDak heritage), do a bit of last-minute shopping, go to a Christmas Eve service at my UU church, drive to Denver, and see my kids. Whew! So no more computer time for me…

                       

              1. Powerful Prune wouldn't know what a real conservative looks like even if Ronald Reagan came back from the dead and was sitting in Prune's kitchen sipping on a brewski.

                Speaking of the late President Reagan, he never moved the American embassy to Jerusalem. What was good enough for The Gipper should be good enough for Trump and Prune.

    2. As usual, no link provided for your spin. Obama did not veto the 14-0 UN resolution against Israel building further settlements in the West bank and East Jerusalem.

      This is actually a step towards peace and the ever-elusive two state solution, as it does not condone the continued bulldozing of Palestinian homes and lands and the continued expansion of the apartheid state. It makes Nikki Haley's job easier.

      Here is another take on the decision.

       

      1. MJ:

        The US abstained which allowed it to pass because we did not use our veto.

        As I indicated in my post, I expected you to be all on board with it.

        1. Fourth Geneva Convention (signatories):

          Article 49. (emphasis mine)

          Individual or mass forcible transfers, as well as deportations of protected persons from occupied territory to the territory of the Occupying Power or to that of any other country, occupied or not, are prohibited, regardless of their motive.

          Nevertheless, the Occupying Power may undertake total or partial evacuation of a given area if the security of the population or imperative military reasons so demand. Such evacuations may not involve the displacement of protected persons outside the bounds of the occupied territory except when for material reasons it is impossible to avoid such displacement. Persons thus evacuated shall be transferred back to their homes as soon as hostilities in the area in question have ceased.

          The Occupying Power undertaking such transfers or evacuations shall ensure, to the greatest practicable extent, that proper accommodation is provided to receive the protected persons, that the removals are effected in satisfactory conditions of hygiene, health, safety and nutrition, and that members of the same family are not separated.
          The Protecting Power shall be informed of any transfers and evacuations as soon as they have taken place.

          The Occupying Power shall not detain protected persons in an area particularly exposed to the dangers of war unless the security of the population or imperative military reasons so demand.

          The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies.

        2. These fools will be shown the door in a few weeks. Just as the Obama "red line" set off a massive humanitarian catastrophe, the Palestinians think they have won will launch more terror attacks against Israel. 

          Obama drives another wedge in the Democratic Party with the Jewish community. 

          1. Prune: there is no "wedge" here. It's merely some common sense being exercised. I don't know anybody who doesn't love and support Israel. But this is a first step in no longer saying "how high" when Netanyahu says "jump.” In other words, US foreign policy should be made in Washington, not Tel Aviv or Jerusalem.

            1. US policy is made in the US.

              Most American's think giving into terrorists is a bad idea.

              Obama does not and so now there is a green light for more violence.

              I hope they resettle some of these wonderful people in a house across the street from O.  Maybe he and the girls can enjoy the Holidays just like they did in Cologne.

              1. The Israelis have created potential terrorists themselves by evicting un-offending people from their homes in order to build settlements. I would hope that US policy is made in the US. But your and Trump's deference to Netanyahu; like the President-Elect's deference to Putin, raises questions.

            2. Wrong. Obama administration does not love Israel, he gives lip service support. Chuck Schumer is not in agreement along with many other Democrats.

              Have you been to Israel?

                1. In 8 years in office, Obama has never interfered with the continuing flow of military arms to Israel. In fact, the Pentagon maintains arms dumps in Israel so the Israeli military can resupply itself in the event of conflict.

                  That's among the many facts that Andrew Carnegie and Powerful Prune choose to ignore in their anti-Obama jihad. As an aside, I have never been a big fan or supporter of Obama. But I respect him and support him when he does the right thing.

                  It’s too bad that Israel no longer has real statesmen in authority, people like Yitzhak Rabin and Ariel Sharon. They made strong and effective war when they had to, but also respected the rights of other people. 

    3. So you're doubling down on calling African American men " boy?"  That is the very stereotype of pot-bellied bigots.  You must hate Christmas because trimming a tree means you can't burn a cross.  So many mud-people to hate, so little time.

          1. V is for bigot

            Exposed as a bigot so make stuff up to deflect.

            Cut and paste anything I have ever posted where I used the word "boy" in relation to the President that was not proceeded by the word "pajama".

            Crickets.

              1. Lack of Gray matter:

                Have you ever used a dictionary?

                Didn't think so.

                Here is the definition form the Urban Dictionary:

                Pajama Boy

                An insufferable Man-Child. About as threatening as Michael Cera and so nerdy he could guest-host on an unwatched MSNBC show. The purpose of Pajama Boy is not to get people to buy health insurance, but to get a rise out of more powerful personas.

                1. Racist swine.   So you think it is cool to call Afrrican Americans "boy" if you think you can lie your way out of this.  Let's use your logic on your mother.  Your mother is a whore but it's okay to call her that if we escalate the insult and say AC's mother is a crack whore?  Are you cool with that,  racist POS?

  3. Why do virulent anti-Semites (such as Trump's advisers and staff) so vigorously defend Israel? It's to make their own prophecies come true, setting the stage for the "rapture" and the end of the world. Trump believes in nothing but money.

    "Christian Zionists" such as Pastor Hagee beleive that Jews must reclaim all of Israel before the second coming of Christ.  Then, if they are "saved", Jews can go to Heaven. If they remain faithful to their own beliefs, according to Hagee and other Christian Zionists, Jews will burn in hell.

     Apocalyptic Christian Zionist John Hagee. . . defensively clarified that he does indeed believe that the Jewish people are going to burn in Hell for all of eternity unless they abandon Judaism and convert to Christianity.

    Christian Zionism

    Christian Zionism is the belief that God gave the Jewish people the land of Israel in historic Palestine. Christian Zionists hold that this is part of a biblical prophecy, and is a necessary prerequisite before the Second Coming of Jesus Christ and the ensuing Day of Judgment.

    The majority of Jews in Israel and the US still hope for a two-state solution.

    1. MJ,

      The self-loathing Jew who is a member of a Church calling Trump advisers and staff Anti-Semites.  That is rich.

      Are you OK with V's bigotry?

      Here it is:

      This will be the last act of an independent foreign policy for the next four years.  Soon casino billionaire Sheldon Adelson will give the orders and Trump will obey.  The U.S. is about to be ruled by right wing Israeli parties on all significant issues.    Good for Obama to show what a U.S.oriented policy looks like. 

      The Jews are controlling US policy.  At least it is not the "Jewish Bankers" that V's fellow Nazis blamed for Germany's defeat in world war one.

       

  4. “Today this message (of peace) goes out to the ends of the earth to reach all peoples, especially those scarred by war and harsh conflicts that seem stronger than the yearning for peace,” he said, speaking in Italian from the central balcony of St. Peter’s Basilica. – Pope Francis, Christmas 2016

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