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September 09, 2016 07:23 AM UTC

Friday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“A man can fail many times, but he isn’t a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.”

–John Burroughs

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26 thoughts on “Friday Open Thread

  1. Great quote to start the day, Alva….a thought the Republican Party should consider.

    They have no one to blame but themselves. They have failed…but, are they failures? Do they accept their own culpability in prying open the Pandoras' Box they have unleashed on the world? Or, will they find a way to blame Obama…and, of course, Hillary? 

    In watching the CBS Morning News, as is my habit, I saw an interview of Kelly Anne Conway and another of Tim Kaine. The difference was striking.

    I wonder, again, how long Trumps' campaign manager, even the completely vacuous and thoroughly shameless wordsmith, Conway, can continue. Even an accomplished bullshit artist like her seems to be tiring of having to offer up, daily, the amount of off-the-cuff fantasy she is being required to produce. Even though I really dislike the woman, I still felt almost embarrassed for her. She just couldn't say what she knows her boss would.

    When someone asked her what Trump would do to stop Kim Jung Un from firing a nuclear warhead at us (U.S.), she had nothing…zilch. Deer in the headlights.

    By contrast, when Kaine was asked the same question, he responded with three very clear, well though out responses about ratcheting up the pressure on NK and putting pressure on China to act, if anyone does. North Korea is their neighbor.

    Had Mr. Trump been asked the question, I daresay something about "bombing the hell out of them" would have likely come up.

     

    They have no one to blame but themselves….

    1. more the reason for our side to quit pretending they are an equal partner in this democracy and to quit insisting on being bipartisan with a bunch of obstructionist, reactionary sociopaths:

      Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton launched a new television ad Thursday that attacks Republican nominee Donald Trump’s messianic claim that “he alone can fix the problems we face,” and then offers herself up as an alternative who will take a more cooperative approach. “I don’t believe that’s how you get things done in our country,” the former Secretary of State says. “It takes Democrats and Republicans working together.

      The nation better hope that Clinton is wrong, however. Because if nothing truly can get done in the United States unless Republicans agree to work with Democrats, America is doomed.

      If this were an ideal democracy with both parties agreeing to the same reality, the same goals, that might be true. But that hasn't been the case for years, and Hillary should stand her, and our, ground and reject this kind of political pablum. 

      But Clinton’s stated bipartisan vision simply isn’t how Washington works anymore. Think back to 2011, when Republicans refused to raise America’s debt ceiling, a must-pass bill that wards the catastrophic consequences of a sovereign debt default, unless the White House agreed to significant budget cuts. Over the course of those negotiations, President Obama was willing to give away the farm — offering Republicans over a trillion dollars in Medicare cuts, a higher Medicare eligibility age, hundreds of billions more in cuts to Medicaid and similar health care programs, and a reduction in Social Security benefits. But the deal blew up due to GOP opposition to higher taxes.

      The same goes for The Coward, Michael Bennet, and his irratonal urge to be bipartisan with the despicable group of Republican senators he works with.

      1. Whew! Zap, thanks so much for taking the Friday shift as "Most Hated Polster". I really couldn't fit it into my schedule today. Moddy promised that he would post some absurd and unintentionally ironic comments about Democrats tomorrow.

      1. In the early days of Air America, liberal radio I found Hartmann refreshing and smart but soon became bored with his broken record routine and truly insufferable self righteousness.

        Ed Schultz pretty much harped on the same things every show, too and his constant rather high pitched yelling got grating though it was nice to have a huntin', fishin' football playin' liberal fluent in good ol' boy on the air since we're all supposed to be latte swilling libs.  When he got his MSNBC show I really wanted to be a supportive viewer but couldn't tolerate more than a very few minutes of Ed shouting at a time. 

        Quit listening to Randi Rhodes because she was so sloppy with her fact checking. The stuff you heard on her show was too often stuff you'd love to believe if only it was true but it wasn't. Very much like some of the FB posts we're too quick to share without checking. Embarrassing.

        For me the thrill of having lefty radio instead of nothing but rightie radio wore off pretty quickly in light of the quality. I wished Air America well but by the time it disappeared I had already gone back to listening to NPR/CPR during my drive time and Hartmann was the first one I completely lost interest in. 

      2. Thom Hartmann is one of the ground-breaking, leading intellectuals of the modern progressive left. He was one of the first to talk and write about climate change; he introduced Bernie Sanders to a broad American audience with his "Brunch with Bernie" shows. He's written 32 books on a variety of topics.

        Out of the political arena, Hartmann researched and promoted the idea that kids with Attention Deficit Disorder are the remnants of our hunting /tribal past, and that their "deficit" is actually a strength. He helped to found and fund the "Hunter Schools" specializing in educating kids with ADHD.

        I have tremendous admiration for the life and works of Thom Hartmann.

         

        1. I'm not surprised he's exactly your cup of tea.  Or that the fact that there isn't a shred of evidence in any empirical study to support that hunter/gatherer psychobabble theory about ADHD doesn't interfere with your quick emotion based acceptance of it. 

          If his show didn't put you to sleep…. more power to you!angel

  2. some more on Chris Cilizza, leader in DC Conventional Wisdom and favored target link of many a political blog. Though the NY Times has been the most obvious outlet to perpetuate the story, Cilazza and team have been harping on the Hillary Clinton Email Nothingburger for months. making the Washington Post look bad, too.

    But if the Post is looking for the media’s worst offenders, they would do well to start inside their own walls.

    Take the team at The Fix, the Post’s rapid-fire politics blog. Chris Cillizza and his team have for months been poking and prodding at the email story, seizing on the tiniest of revelations and plugging it into their proprietary formula that converts scandals into electoral math in order to explain what it all means for the November election.

    Except, as often as not, Cillizza gets the story wrong.

    [According to Cillizza], one day Clinton is using a Colin Powell-shaped shield to deflect criticism, the next Powell himself acknowledges that Clinton said no such thing. Cillizza has been downplaying the Powell connection for weeks, often defending his actions as entirely unrelated in the process, until finally, he couldn’t anymore.

    This "chase the soccer ball" approach to our politics, especially to picking a president, hurts our democracy and gives petty, trivial items far greater importance in voters' minds than key issues that the "greatest country on the face of the earth" should be solving. 

  3. Hi Chris!

    (Just wanted to give a shout out directly to Cillizza the next time he Googles his own name and comes up with ColoradoPols references once again.)

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